DOCBOOK-APPS: Re: XML catalog resolution problems

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 / "Jeanson Mauritz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: | What is the reason for requiring EntityResolver to always return | fully resolved system IDs in the first place? Why did Norm lose | the argument? I'm not sure I can answer this question in

RE: DOCBOOK-APPS: RE: XML catalog resolution problems

> -Original Message- > From: Bob Stayton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 7:13 PM > To: Jeanson Mauritz; Norman Walsh > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: DOCBOOK-APPS: RE: XML catalog resolution problems > > > I had some furth

Re: DOCBOOK-APPS: RE: XML catalog resolution problems

At 10:12 2002 11 08 -0800, Bob Stayton wrote: >I had some further correspondence with Norm about >this problem. It turns out that relative system ids >can't be resolved by the Java resolver classes because >they never even see them in their original form. > >He explained that the SAX API resolves

Re: DOCBOOK-APPS: RE: XML catalog resolution problems

I had some further correspondence with Norm about this problem. It turns out that relative system ids can't be resolved by the Java resolver classes because they never even see them in their original form. He explained that the SAX API resolves a relative system id such as "docbookx.dtd" as relat

DOCBOOK-APPS: RE: XML catalog resolution problems

> -Original Message- > From: Norman Walsh [mailto:ndw@;nwalsh.com] > Sent: Friday, October 25, 2002 7:06 PM > To: Jeanson Mauritz > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: XML catalog resolution problems > > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > / Jeanson Mauritz <[EMAIL PRO

Re: DOCBOOK-APPS: RE: XML catalog resolution problems

On Wed, Oct 30, 2002 at 01:58:30PM -0600, Paul Grosso wrote: > > The XML spec in 4.2.2 explicitely state that in production 75 > >the System ID is an URI-Reference and link to RFC 2396. > > RFC 2396 defines: > > URI-reference = [ absoluteURI | relativeURI

DOCBOOK-APPS: Re: XML catalog resolution problems

On Wed, Oct 30, 2002 at 12:31:32PM -0800, Norman Walsh wrote: > I am, to be frank, disappointed and frustrated that you've blown a > great big hole in a smooth operation of XML Catalogs. The whole point > was interoperability and you've $%#$@#ed that up. 1 user complain in 15months of operations

DOCBOOK-APPS: RE: XML catalog resolution problems

> -Original Message- > From: Norman Walsh [mailto:ndw@;nwalsh.com] > Sent: Friday, October 25, 2002 7:06 PM > To: Jeanson Mauritz > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: XML catalog resolution problems > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > / Jeanson Mauritz <[EMAIL PROTEC

Re: DOCBOOK-APPS: RE: XML catalog resolution problems

Bob Stayton wrote: > > As a practical user, I would like to request that the XML > catalog implementation in xsltproc adhere to the published > standard, whether or not you agree with the standard. > Standards allow for interoperability. I would like to use > the same XML catalog with different p

Re: DOCBOOK-APPS: RE: XML catalog resolution problems

As a practical user, I would like to request that the XML catalog implementation in xsltproc adhere to the published standard, whether or not you agree with the standard. Standards allow for interoperability. I would like to use the same XML catalog with different processors. I can't do that if t

DOCBOOK-APPS: Re: XML catalog resolution problems

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 / Daniel Veillard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: | On Wed, Oct 30, 2002 at 09:28:44AM -0600, Paul Grosso wrote: |> You are correct, xsltproc is not in compliance with the XML Catalog spec. [...] | And I have said to the XML Catalog comitee tha

Re: DOCBOOK-APPS: RE: XML catalog resolution problems

At 14:08 2002 10 30 -0500, Daniel Veillard wrote: >On Wed, Oct 30, 2002 at 11:25:02AM -0600, Paul Grosso wrote: >> But I will try again to give you a more technical explanation. >> >> The use of systemId in the XML Catalog is expressly to model >> production [75], ExternalID, of the XML spec. I

Re: DOCBOOK-APPS: RE: XML catalog resolution problems

On Wed, Oct 30, 2002 at 11:25:02AM -0600, Paul Grosso wrote: > > I haven't received any justification yet from the commitee about the > >reason to distinguish those exept "they are different", no sorry ... > > Well, when Microsoft said "I see no reason not to support empty end > tags (i.e., ) in

Re: DOCBOOK-APPS: RE: XML catalog resolution problems

On Wed, Oct 30, 2002 at 11:25:02AM -0600, Paul Grosso wrote: > Many XML processors provide an option to "compile" the external > subset for certain optimized uses, so the system identifier (in > the doctype line) might really resolve to some compiled form, > but the URI in the xinclude element w

Re: DOCBOOK-APPS: RE: XML catalog resolution problems

At 11:12 2002 10 30 -0500, Daniel Veillard wrote: >On Wed, Oct 30, 2002 at 09:28:44AM -0600, Paul Grosso wrote: >> The XML Catalog spec makes it clear that system entries are for >> resolving external identifiers (production 75 in XML) and clearly >> says about URI entries [1]: > > And I have sa

Re: DOCBOOK-APPS: RE: XML catalog resolution problems

On Wed, Oct 30, 2002 at 09:28:44AM -0600, Paul Grosso wrote: > At 12:27 2002 10 30 +0100, Jeanson Mauritz wrote: > > >When trying xsltproc, I found that it accepts and resolves > >entries for stylesheets in catalog files. As I take it, this is not > >the correct behaviour. > > > You are correct

RE: DOCBOOK-APPS: RE: XML catalog resolution problems

At 12:27 2002 10 30 +0100, Jeanson Mauritz wrote: >When trying xsltproc, I found that it accepts and resolves >entries for stylesheets in catalog files. As I take it, this is not >the correct behaviour. You are correct, xsltproc is not in compliance with the XML Catalog spec. The XML Catalog s

RE: DOCBOOK-APPS: RE: XML catalog resolution problems

> -Original Message- > From: Bob Stayton [mailto:bobs@;caldera.com] > Sent: Monday, October 28, 2002 5:46 PM > To: Jeanson Mauritz; Norman Walsh > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: DOCBOOK-APPS: RE: XML catalog resolution problems > > > On Mon, Oct 2

Re: DOCBOOK-APPS: RE: XML catalog resolution problems

On Mon, Oct 28, 2002 at 08:26:07AM +0100, Jeanson Mauritz wrote: > > -Original Message- > > From: Norman Walsh [mailto:ndw@;nwalsh.com] > > Sent: Friday, October 25, 2002 7:07 PM > > To: Jeanson Mauritz > > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: XML catalog resolution problems > > > > > >

DOCBOOK-APPS: RE: XML catalog resolution problems

> -Original Message- > From: Norman Walsh [mailto:ndw@;nwalsh.com] > Sent: Friday, October 25, 2002 7:07 PM > To: Jeanson Mauritz > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: XML catalog resolution problems > > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > / Jeanson Mauritz <[EMAIL PRO

DOCBOOK-APPS: Re: XML catalog resolution problems

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 / Jeanson Mauritz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: |> [Schlienger, Marc] for stylesheets I suggest you put |> local links |> into the required ones, for instance in chunk.xsl there is normaly: |> href="http://docbook.sourceforge.net/r

DOCBOOK-APPS: Re: XML catalog resolution problems

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 / Jeanson Mauritz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: | B. Resolution of stylesheet locations: works only if I | 1. use Saxon's -u flag, I'm offline, and I don't recall what "-u" means... | 2. use instead of in the catalog file, Right. Stylesh

DOCBOOK-APPS: Re: XML catalog resolution problems

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 / Jeanson Mauritz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: | This is the current score: | | A. Resolution of system IDs: does not work at all. | | B. Resolution of stylesheet locations: works only if I | 1. use Saxon's -u flag, | 2. use instead of in