Re: Clarification for the use of additional fields in the message body

2015-07-09 Thread Theodore Ts'o
On Wed, Jul 08, 2015 at 05:27:38PM +0200, SF Markus Elfring wrote: > > Note also that some maintainers have work flow that deliberately smash > > the date (i.e., because they are using a system such as guilt), > > so if you are depending on the submitted timestamp, it's going to > > break on you. >

Re: Clarification for the use of additional fields in the message body

2015-07-08 Thread Julian Calaby
Hi Markus, On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 11:46 PM, SF Markus Elfring wrote: >> Is there truly no way to simplify that process? > > I see some software development possibilities which could improve > the communication with high volume mailing lists. You shouldn't need any software development, most peop

Re: Clarification for the use of additional fields in the message body

2015-07-08 Thread Theodore Ts'o
On Wed, Jul 08, 2015 at 09:05:53PM +1000, Julian Calaby wrote: > If multiple people are submitting identical changes, then the one that > is applied is the one the maintainer sees first, which will most > likely be determined by which one hit their inbox / list first. Nobody > is going to look at t

Re: Clarification for the use of additional fields in the message body

2015-07-08 Thread SF Markus Elfring
> Note also that some maintainers have work flow that deliberately smash > the date (i.e., because they are using a system such as guilt), > so if you are depending on the submitted timestamp, it's going to > break on you. Thanks for your hint. I am just trying to offer the possibility for the re

Re: Clarification for the use of additional fields in the message body

2015-07-08 Thread SF Markus Elfring
> Is there truly no way to simplify that process? I see some software development possibilities which could improve the communication with high volume mailing lists. > You should be sending the patches directly with SMTP using git-send-email, This tool is also fine for the publishing of a lot o

Re: Clarification for the use of additional fields in the message body

2015-07-08 Thread Julian Calaby
Hi Markus, On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 7:28 PM, SF Markus Elfring wrote: >> If it's harmless, then no, but in this case, people are questioning >> why you're adding it as it adds no value > > Some Git software developers care to keep the information complete > for the author commit. > > >> to anyone a

Re: Clarification for the use of additional fields in the message body

2015-07-08 Thread SF Markus Elfring
> If it's harmless, then no, but in this case, people are questioning > why you're adding it as it adds no value Some Git software developers care to keep the information complete for the author commit. > to anyone and makes it look like you don't know what you're doing. I specify message field

Re: Clarification for the use of additional fields in the message body

2015-07-08 Thread Julian Calaby
Hi Markus, On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 5:09 PM, SF Markus Elfring wrote: >> There's a file in the documentation directory of the kernel >> tree describing submitting patches and email client setup. >> Read them both, > > I read this information several times. > > >> do what they say without anything e

Re: Clarification for the use of additional fields in the message body

2015-07-08 Thread SF Markus Elfring
> There's a file in the documentation directory of the kernel > tree describing submitting patches and email client setup. > Read them both, I read this information several times. > do what they say without anything extra. Do you see any special consequences if a bit of "extra" functionality is

Re: Clarification for the use of additional fields in the message body

2015-07-07 Thread Julian Calaby
Hi Markus, On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 2:15 AM, SF Markus Elfring wrote: >> I can't remember ever changing or explicitly preserving the commit date. >> I don't think I care enough. > > Would any more software developers and maintainers like to share > their experiences around such details? > > When do

Re: Clarification for the use of additional fields in the message body

2015-07-07 Thread SF Markus Elfring
> I can't remember ever changing or explicitly preserving the commit date. > I don't think I care enough. Would any more software developers and maintainers like to share their experiences around such details? When do commit timestamps become relevant as a documentation item for contribution auth

Re: Clarification for the use of additional fields in the message body

2015-07-07 Thread Frans Klaver
On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 1:53 PM, SF Markus Elfring wrote: >> I think that as far as these kernel mailing lists are concerned, >> the date of the update suggestion is the date on which you submitted the >> patch, >> rather than the date you originally committed it to your local tree. > > I imagine

Re: Clarification for the use of additional fields in the message body

2015-07-07 Thread SF Markus Elfring
> I think that as far as these kernel mailing lists are concerned, > the date of the update suggestion is the date on which you submitted the > patch, > rather than the date you originally committed it to your local tree. I imagine that there are committers who would like to keep corresponding so

Re: Clarification for the use of additional fields in the message body

2015-07-07 Thread Frans Klaver
On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 9:54 AM, SF Markus Elfring wrote: >> No need to try and preserve it. > > I find that it might occasionally help to share and keep the record > on timestamps about the evolution for an original update suggestion. I think that as far as these kernel mailing lists are concern

Re: Clarification for the use of additional fields in the message body

2015-07-07 Thread SF Markus Elfring
> The date, as far as I know, is ignored. It is the commit date, > not the authoring date, and once your patch is applied by a maintainer > (i.e. committed), the date gets reset anyway. Thanks for your feedback. > No need to try and preserve it. I find that it might occasionally help to share a

Re: Clarification for the use of additional fields in the message body

2015-07-06 Thread Frans Klaver
On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 8:21 AM, SF Markus Elfring wrote: >>> From: Markus Elfring >>> Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2015 15:56:57 +0200 >> >> Why is this in the body of the email? > > Does the canonical patch format support to preserve > specific details about a shown commit by specification > of fields like

Re: Clarification for the use of additional fields in the message body

2015-07-06 Thread SF Markus Elfring
>> From: Markus Elfring >> Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2015 15:56:57 +0200 > > Why is this in the body of the email? Does the canonical patch format support to preserve specific details about a shown commit by specification of fields like "Date" and "From" in the message body? Regards, Markus ___