Re: why is firefox such a CPU hog?

2009-11-20 Thread Jordan Erickson
Robert Arkiletian wrote: *snip* > Here's hoping Google/Youtube moves to an Open standard. I'm crossing > my fingers that Google's purchase of On2 will kill Flash. http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/08/05/google-acquires-video-compression-technology-company-on2-for-106-million/ *hopeful grin* - Jor

Re: why is firefox such a CPU hog?

2009-11-17 Thread Robert Arkiletian
On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 8:29 AM, Scott Balneaves wrote: > On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 04:57:31PM -0800, john wrote: > >> I just got to wondering (in an idle sort of way) why applications like >> openoffice  which is so much bigger than firefox seem to run just fine >> with 24 copies open and firefox d

Re: why is firefox such a CPU hog?

2009-11-17 Thread Scott Balneaves
On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 08:43:26AM -0800, john wrote: > That's a pretty damning indictment. So is supporting gnash someway the > direction forward in your opinion? Or some other approach? Well, since you *asked* :) 1) First and foremost, we, as a (I dunno what you'd call us) "the viewing public"

Re: why is firefox such a CPU hog?

2009-11-17 Thread john
Hi Gavin, On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 2:10 AM, Gavin McCullagh wrote: > > The number of documents which OpenOffice users would have which has >50 > images, several of which are probably animated as well as an embedded > video or flash applet, is probably quite small. > > I might be wrong but, I'd gu

Re: why is firefox such a CPU hog?

2009-11-17 Thread john
Hey Scott, On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 8:29 AM, Scott Balneaves wrote: > On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 04:57:31PM -0800, john wrote: > Well, I think firefox will too.  Here's a test: get your 24 students to JUST > browse around on a site that doesn't involve any Java, or flash.  Something > like wikipedia

Re: why is firefox such a CPU hog?

2009-11-17 Thread Scott Balneaves
On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 04:57:31PM -0800, john wrote: > I just got to wondering (in an idle sort of way) why applications like > openoffice which is so much bigger than firefox seem to run just fine > with 24 copies open and firefox doesn't? Well, I think firefox will too. Here's a test: get yo

Re: why is firefox such a CPU hog?

2009-11-17 Thread Jonathan Carter (highvoltage)
Hi john john wrote: > Thanks in advance for your ideas! I am personally also quite frustrated with Firefox performance issues- and that's just on a standalone machine. I installed Chromium from the daily build PPA's and it's shaping up very nicely. Performance-wise it's definitely better than Fir

Re: why is firefox such a CPU hog?

2009-11-17 Thread Gavin McCullagh
Hi, On Mon, 16 Nov 2009, john wrote: > I just got to wondering (in an idle sort of way) why applications like > openoffice which is so much bigger than firefox seem to run just fine > with 24 copies open and firefox doesn't? I'd say it's down to the complexity and number of documents that the

Re: why is firefox such a CPU hog?

2009-11-16 Thread john
On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 12:10 PM, Scott Balneaves wrote: > > LTSP is NOT a panacea.  A thin client will never, EVER be 100% of the > experience of a full workstation.  We've done lots of things to make LTSP as > "like" a full workstation as we can, with things like Localapps, that allows > you to

Re: why is firefox such a CPU hog?

2009-11-16 Thread Gavin McCullagh
Hi, On Mon, 16 Nov 2009, Scott Balneaves wrote: > The problem here isn't LTSP. LTSP can't "manufacture" cpu cycles out of thin > air. If a badly behaved application uses up all your cpu cycles, there's > nothing LTSP can do about that: it's just a way of running remote X. I work on a 2.8GHz P4

Re: why is firefox such a CPU hog?

2009-11-16 Thread john
Hey Scott, > Is it *just* youtube videos that's causing the problem?  If so, you can try > something that I've been recommending to people: > > 1) Install greasemonkey (it's in the repos) > 2) Install the hqtube greasemonkey script: > > http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/24999 > > There is a mino

Re: why is firefox such a CPU hog?

2009-11-16 Thread john
Hi Scott, Thanks for your response, it's very enlightening. I appreciate you taking the time to put in some examples illustrating what you are talking about as well. > LTSP is NOT a panacea.  A thin client will never, EVER be 100% of the > experience of a full workstation.  We've done lots of th

Re: why is firefox such a CPU hog?

2009-11-16 Thread Scott Balneaves
On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 01:53:30PM -0800, john wrote: > 1) Ideally I'd like to wait for an LTS that has local apps, but I > don't think that's due until next spring Right, not until April 2010. > 3) Even with 512m ram my thin clients processors are too wimpy to deal > with flash well. So I am cu

Re: why is firefox such a CPU hog?

2009-11-16 Thread john
Hi David, > The development of localapps has saved the day for my class/curriculum. > Firefox and CmapTools work quite well as localapps using PIII and PIV > computers with no more than 512 MB RAM.  I can't say enough good stuff about > what they let me do.  Localapps IS the reason I upgraded to

Re: why is firefox such a CPU hog?

2009-11-16 Thread Lieven Van Acker
009 22:25:05 GMT +01:00 Amsterdam / Berlijn / Bern / Rome / Stockholm / Wenen Onderwerp: Re: why is firefox such a CPU hog? I'd like to tell you about my felicity with localapps. Last spring when I finally got LTSP running and throughout the spring firefox did most of what I asked it to

Re: why is firefox such a CPU hog?

2009-11-16 Thread David Groos
I'd like to tell you about my felicity with localapps. Last spring when I finally got LTSP running and throughout the spring firefox did most of what I asked it to do... except it couldn't do flash video and even java applets like the ones at this famous site

Re: why is firefox such a CPU hog?

2009-11-16 Thread Scott Balneaves
On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 11:08:37AM -0800, john wrote: > Hi Asmo, > > On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 10:36 AM, wrote: > > > Do you know what they are doing/what kind of web pages they are surfing - > > flash, java, lots of pictures, some kind of embedded movies or embedded > > audio players, lots of po

Re: why is firefox such a CPU hog?

2009-11-16 Thread Joseph Hartman
Hi John, I may be wrong but I think the issue is primarily with flash. I may be completely incorrect here but I ran into the same thing a while back and if I remember correctly (and was told correctly in the first place) the fact is that flash is being processed at the server rather than the client

Re: why is firefox such a CPU hog?

2009-11-16 Thread john
Hi Asmo, On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 10:36 AM, wrote: > Do you know what they are doing/what kind of web pages they are surfing - > flash, java, lots of pictures, some kind of embedded movies or embedded > audio players, lots of popup windows and so on - FF has n+1 plugins - bad, > bad dog. But may

Re: why is firefox such a CPU hog?

2009-11-16 Thread asmo . koskinen
> This is sort of a general question. I have a quad core AMD server with > 16 Gigs of ram. I am running Hardy 2.6.24-25-server #1 SMP > This morning with 16 users logged on my load average was 16 to 20 and > I noticed that a single firefox process was taking 95% of my CPU. Do you know what they

why is firefox such a CPU hog?

2009-11-16 Thread john
Hi all, This is sort of a general question. I have a quad core AMD server with 16 Gigs of ram. I am running Hardy 2.6.24-25-server #1 SMP This morning with 16 users logged on my load average was 16 to 20 and I noticed that a single firefox process was taking 95% of my CPU. When I reniced that par