Re: [PSES] CE Mark

2017-08-15 Thread Pete Perkins
Charlie, Thanx for your remarks (and those of John W, too) clarifying details. I do remember, however, that the EU and the UK started on a 10 year Voltage harmonization project moving toward 230V at 1 V change per year. The EU completed the project but the Brits seemed to fal

Re: [PSES] CE Mark

2017-08-15 Thread Charlie Blackham
Pete Thanks for some clarification 😊 I'd missed the initial parts about plugs - article 10(10) cited in the OP is solely related to the Radio Spectrum and nothing to do with plugs, or safety under article 3.1(a). Whilst the UK might be 240V and the EU 220V, they are actually harmonised as "2

Re: [PSES] CE Mark

2017-08-15 Thread John Woodgate
Scott was asking about the RED and CE Mark; the bit about mains plugs was an example of 'in some countries'. The mains voltage is 230 V +/-10 % across all of EU and EFTA, but it does tend to be lower in former 220 V countries and higher in Great Britain (not UK, because Northern Ireland was o

Re: [PSES] CE Mark

2017-08-15 Thread Pete Perkins
Scott, John et al, My take on Scott's question is one that is being asked more routinely these days as the IoT spreads to many more product types. Within the EU there are two principle operating zones: UK at 240V and the rest of the EU at 220V. Attachment plugs and sockets ar

Re: [PSES] CE Mark

2017-08-15 Thread Charlie Blackham
Scott Yes, it's a requirement in the RED - article 10 states: 2.Manufacturers shall ensure that radio equipment shall be so constructed that it can be operated in at least one Member State without infringing applicable requirements on the use of radio spectrum. Regards Charlie Charlie Blackh

Re: [PSES] CE Mark

2017-08-15 Thread John Woodgate
The RED calls up the CE Mark Directive. The RED is a free download, so you need have no trouble in studying it. I would even send it to you if the list allowed attachments, but it doesn't. With best wishes DESIGN IT IN! OOO – Own Opinions Only www.jmwa.demon.co.uk J M Woodgate and Associates Ray

Re: [PSES] CE Mark

2017-08-15 Thread Scott Xe
Hi Charlie, “The product should be CE marked to the RED - a product may be CE marked to the RED provided that it can be used in at least one member state” It is a requirement of RED, not CE Mark? Thanks and regards, Scott On 15/8/2017, 11:00 PM, "Charlie Blackham" wrote: Scott

Re: [PSES] CE Mark

2017-08-15 Thread Charlie Blackham
Scott The product should be CE marked to the RED - a product may be CE marked to the RED provided that it can be used in at least one member state The information to the user should be provided on the packaging as detailed below The "alert mark", which is (!), as used under the R&TTE Directive s

Re: [PSES] CE Mark

2017-08-15 Thread Scott Xe
If a product is restricted (due to restrictions on putting into service in geographical area) to be used in some countries, there is a contradiction to the CE Mark on the product that allows to be free flow between countries. Doesn’t the free movement mean the allowed use in the countries? Reg

Re: [PSES] CE Mark

2017-08-15 Thread John Woodgate
What do you mean by 'below restriction'? There are detailed rules in the Regulation about products that are only allowed to be used in some countries. But the CE mark must be affixed anyway. With best wishes DESIGN IT IN! OOO – Own Opinions Only www.jmwa.demon.co.uk J M Woodgate and Associates R

[PSES] CE Mark

2017-08-15 Thread Scott Xe
The CE Mark is a conformity scheme that allows for the free flow of products between countries in the European Economic Area (EEA). If a product has below restriction in RED in some member countries, can the product be affixed a CE Mark? Same as a UK plug fitted, the product should be used in