Re: Is consciousness real?

2001-01-30 Thread Marchal
Robert Ettinger wrote (in the FOR Deutsch List): > [...] >And yet again: There is no reason that we cannot (eventually) describe >subjective conditions in objective terms, and transfer feelings (qualia) >from >one person to another. It's not a question of self-reference or anything to >do wit

Re: Is consciousness real?

2001-01-22 Thread equinox9
cel. - Original Message - From: James Higgo (co.uk) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2001 12:58 PM Subject: Re: Is consciousness real? > That's quite a surprise: someone who understands what I said! > - Original Message

Re: Is consciousness real?

2001-01-21 Thread Marchal
Jamikes wrote: > ... >They all make a living on ["consciousness"]. And: >Poor old Descartes (I esteem his genius to >the highest level) would have >made quite different conclusions had he had a >freshman's cours of the >2000/2001 schoolyear in physiology and >biology. (Pineal gland?) Either he

Re: Is consciousness real?

2001-01-18 Thread equinox9
- Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 12:08 PM Subject: Re: Is consciousness real? > James Higgo writes: > > Consciousness - a flow of related

Re: Is consciousness real?

2001-01-18 Thread Marchal
Johnn Mikes wrote: >Consciousness is a historical noumenon of no content, an imaginary 'thing' >that does not exist. Consciousness is what makes pain painfull. It makes also conscience possible, and it makes the human right sensefull. If you have had one moment of joy or pain, I take it that yo