[Evolution] Alert when sending to unqualified addresses.

2010-12-22 Thread Ian Mortimer
Just upgraded to 2.32.1 and so far everything is going well except that any message to to an unqualified address gets an alert: Are you sure you want to send a message with invalid address? The following recipient was not recognized as a valid mail address: Under Composer Preferences/Genera

Re: [Evolution] What happened to Evolution?

2010-12-22 Thread Robert Seward
On Wed, 2010-12-22 at 08:30 -0500, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: > On Wed, 2010-12-22 at 13:19 +, Pete Biggs wrote: > > On Wed, 2010-12-22 at 04:10 -0500, dar...@ontrenet.com wrote: > > > Huh? > > > Many people don't leave their messages on ISP servers because of quotas, > > Get a better ISP. > >

Re: [Evolution] What happened to Evolution?

2010-12-22 Thread Xavier Bestel
On Wed, 2010-12-22 at 08:30 -0500, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: > On Wed, 2010-12-22 at 13:19 +, Pete Biggs wrote: > > On Wed, 2010-12-22 at 04:10 -0500, dar...@ontrenet.com wrote: > > > Huh? > > > Many people don't leave their messages on ISP servers because of quotas, > > Get a better ISP. > >

Re: [Evolution] What happened to Evolution?

2010-12-22 Thread Darren Govoni
U, last I checked SQL Server IS a SQL database man. But back to the more important topic of how to improve Evolution Also, SQL database technologies are designed specifically for scalability so products don't brew their own and do it poorly. On 12/22/2010 10:23 AM, Adam Tauno Williams

Re: [Evolution] What happened to Evolution?

2010-12-22 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
On Wed, 2010-12-22 at 09:29 -0500, Darren Govoni wrote: > How do you mean it would 'die horribly'? Exactly that. If you used SQLlite as a message store you'd have serious scaling issues. > After all, email servers store their messages in databases so they > don't get corrupted. Which ones? I'm

Re: [Evolution] What happened to Evolution?

2010-12-22 Thread Matthew Barnes
On Wed, 2010-12-22 at 08:25 -0500, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: > [1] I don't recall how; if they are mbox [which might have a 2GB issue] > or if they [the developers] switched to maildir or mh or something else. FWIW, we fixed the 2 GB barrier in 2.32 and are switching from mbox to Maildir as the l

Re: [Evolution] What happened to Evolution?

2010-12-22 Thread Darren Govoni
How do you mean it would 'die horribly'? After all, email servers store their messages in databases so they don't get corrupted. Also, point #4 isn't bogus. Its intended to attract developers to write more tools and plugins against the data format. Not really for users to hack their messages. On

Re: [Evolution] What happened to Evolution?

2010-12-22 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
On Wed, 2010-12-22 at 09:18 -0500, Darren Govoni wrote: > I would design Evolution to use SQLlite It *does*! But it doesn't put the *messages* in SQLite; that would die horribly. > or something like it. Firefox is going that direction in itself. > It would buy you these lacking qualities now: >

Re: [Evolution] What happened to Evolution?

2010-12-22 Thread Darren Govoni
I would design Evolution to use SQLlite or something like it. Firefox is going that direction in itself. It would buy you these lacking qualities now: 1) Data integrity 2) Fast retrieval, sorting 3) Ad hoc querying 4) Open format (can use any/many tools to manipulate) Just my $0.04 Darren On Wed

Re: [Evolution] What happened to Evolution?

2010-12-22 Thread Sean
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Wed, 2010-12-22 at 08:30 -0500, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: >> An application's data should be a sealed container and accessed only >> via an API / service > > Fine in theory as long as the API/service is foolproof. Getting at an > mbox file with a text editor has s

Re: [Evolution] What happened to Evolution?

2010-12-22 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2010-12-22 at 08:30 -0500, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: > An application's data should be a sealed container and accessed only > via an API / service Fine in theory as long as the API/service is foolproof. Getting at an mbox file with a text editor has saved my skin more than once (though I

Re: [Evolution] What happened to Evolution?

2010-12-22 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2010-12-22 at 08:01 -0500, dar...@ontrenet.com wrote: > Oddly enough, what I'm seeing is that my Evolution on Fedora 13 and > other > disros was fine (relatively). As soon as I went to Fedora 14, it had > noticeable problems. Evo changed the location of config info in F14, in line with Gno

Re: [Evolution] What happened to Evolution?

2010-12-22 Thread Andre Klapper
Am Dienstag, den 21.12.2010, 15:27 -0500 schrieb Darren Govoni: > There are numerous embeddable SQL transactional databases that provide > fast, reliable > and ACID properties that would greatly improve the speed and durability > of something > important like email. > > Since its now clear that E

Re: [Evolution] What happened to Evolution?

2010-12-22 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
On Wed, 2010-12-22 at 13:19 +, Pete Biggs wrote: > On Wed, 2010-12-22 at 04:10 -0500, dar...@ontrenet.com wrote: > > Huh? > > Many people don't leave their messages on ISP servers because of quotas, > Get a better ISP. > > so then they get downloaded to their local machine. Where you want fast,

Re: [Evolution] What happened to Evolution?

2010-12-22 Thread Pete Biggs
On Tue, 2010-12-21 at 16:17 -0500, Darren Govoni wrote: > Trying to expunge, I get this error. > > Error while Expunging folder 'Inbox'. > > Summary and folder mismatch, even after a sync > FAQ: http://live.gnome.org/Evolution/FAQ#Why_do_I_get_an_error_.22Summary_and_folder_mismatch.2C_even_aft

Re: [Evolution] What happened to Evolution?

2010-12-22 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
On Tue, 2010-12-21 at 15:27 -0500, Darren Govoni wrote: > On Tue, 2010-12-21 at 15:19 -0500, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: > > On Tue, 2010-12-21 at 21:04 +0100, Jean-Michel Pouré wrote: > > > Le lundi 20 décembre 2010 à 09:14 -0500, Darren Govoni a écrit : > > > > 1) I now get frequent "error storin

Re: [Evolution] What happened to Evolution?

2010-12-22 Thread Pete Biggs
On Wed, 2010-12-22 at 04:10 -0500, dar...@ontrenet.com wrote: > Huh? > > Many people don't leave their messages on ISP servers because of quotas, Get a better ISP. > so then they get downloaded to their local machine. Where you want fast, > reliable access to them (e.g. searching, sorting, etc.)

Re: [Evolution] What happened to Evolution?

2010-12-22 Thread Andre Klapper
Am Dienstag, den 21.12.2010, 16:17 -0500 schrieb Darren Govoni: > Trying to expunge, I get this error. > Error while Expunging folder 'Inbox'. > Summary and folder mismatch, even after a sync http://live.gnome.org/Evolution/FAQ#Why_do_I_get_an_error_.22Summary_and_folder_mismatch.2C_even_after_a_s

Re: [Evolution] What happened to Evolution?

2010-12-22 Thread Darren Govoni
Trying to expunge, I get this error. Error while Expunging folder 'Inbox'. Summary and folder mismatch, even after a sync On Tue, 2010-12-21 at 15:19 -0500, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: > On Tue, 2010-12-21 at 21:04 +0100, Jean-Michel Pouré wrote: > > Le lundi 20 décembre 2010 à 09:14 -0500, Dar

Re: [Evolution] What happened to Evolution?

2010-12-22 Thread darren
Oddly enough, what I'm seeing is that my Evolution on Fedora 13 and other disros was fine (relatively). As soon as I went to Fedora 14, it had noticeable problems. > On Tue, 2010-12-21 at 12:31 -0800, Tory M Blue wrote: >> On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 12:19 PM, Adam Tauno Williams >> wrote: >> > On Tu

Re: [Evolution] Evolution displays appointments in menubar dropdown but not in Calendar

2010-12-22 Thread Lailah
Elisabeth: To save a new contact in Evolution just enter data in the fields and pick 'save'  or  'ok' or something like that  (in spanish, my language, is 'aceptar').  Is not 'save current page'.  Probably that's why your error happens.

Re: [Evolution] What happened to Evolution?

2010-12-22 Thread Gavin Simpson
On Tue, 2010-12-21 at 12:31 -0800, Tory M Blue wrote: > On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 12:19 PM, Adam Tauno Williams > wrote: > > On Tue, 2010-12-21 at 21:04 +0100, Jean-Michel Pouré wrote: > >> Le lundi 20 décembre 2010 à 09:14 -0500, Darren Govoni a écrit : > >> > 1) I now get frequent "error storing f

Re: [Evolution] What happened to Evolution?

2010-12-22 Thread darren
Huh? Many people don't leave their messages on ISP servers because of quotas, so then they get downloaded to their local machine. Where you want fast, reliable access to them (e.g. searching, sorting, etc.) Unfortunately, without ACID principles, your local email will get corrupted. And most don't