[FairfieldLife] Re: for those who still love and or thank Maharishi

2012-08-03 Thread Xenophaneros Anartaxius
Judy, I accept your analysis of this. Point on. Very clear. I retract my flawed argument about this. It is not always possible to discern what someone intends from what they say. It is *always* clear to them. What I think is always clear to 'me'. But when I put it out there, that is not the case

[FairfieldLife] Re: for those who still love and or thank Maharishi

2012-08-02 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" wrote: > I was pointing out what I thought was a veiled ad hominem by > Judy. It wasn't "veiled," it was right up front. > This is not necessarily absolutely clear because normal > language is rather loose logically. What I did, w

[FairfieldLife] Re: for those who still love and or thank Maharishi

2012-07-24 Thread awoelflebater
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater wrote: > > > Well, you know Xeno, whenever I read what you have to write I find it > > almost always 100% intelligent and absolutely nonintrusive. I am unable to >

[FairfieldLife] Re: for those who still love and or thank Maharishi

2012-07-24 Thread Xenophaneros Anartaxius
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater wrote: > Well, you know Xeno, whenever I read what you have to write I find it almost > always 100% intelligent and absolutely nonintrusive. I am unable to know if > you are correct or not in what you say here but the manner of how you said it

[FairfieldLife] Re: for those who still love and or thank Maharishi

2012-07-23 Thread awoelflebater
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robin Carlsen" wrote: > > > > Dear Xenophaneros, > > [note that the following by Robin Carlsen was run through > http://www.textcompactor.com/ to produce an executive summary. No

[FairfieldLife] Re: for those who still love and or thank Maharishi

2012-07-23 Thread Xenophaneros Anartaxius
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robin Carlsen" wrote: > > Dear Xenophaneros, [note that the following by Robin Carlsen was run through http://www.textcompactor.com/ to produce an executive summary. Now while that might make some of the arguments put forth spartan of potentially necessary

[FairfieldLife] Re: for those who still love and or thank Maharishi

2012-07-20 Thread awoelflebater
" and you hit send and I love you for that too! > > > > From: awoelflebater > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2012 1:29 PM > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: for those who still love and or thank Maharishi > > >   > > God Emily, what a

[FairfieldLife] Re: for those who still love and or thank Maharishi

2012-07-19 Thread cardemaister
Fantastic rhythm in Brother's text! :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "stevelf" wrote: > > brother Robin--- you have a beautiful heart.. > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robin Carlsen" wrote: > > > > Dear Vajradhatu,, > > > > I have stormed the barricades, looked the dev

[FairfieldLife] Re: for those who still love and or thank Maharishi

2012-07-19 Thread stevelf
brother Robin--- you have a beautiful heart.. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robin Carlsen" wrote: > > Dear Vajradhatu,, > > I have stormed the barricades, looked the devil in the eye, ransacked my life, > cried in plaintive tones to the universe, and for the life of me, I find there

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: for those who still love and or thank Maharishi

2012-07-19 Thread Emily Reyn
reated of them in his mind in order to ward off the perceived threat they pose. > > > ____________________ > From: turquoiseb > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2012 12:25 AM > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: for those who still l

[FairfieldLife] Re: for those who still love and or thank Maharishi

2012-07-19 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > On Jul 19, 2012, at 5:15 PM, Xenophaneros Anartaxius wrote: > > > All you have to do is find some other way to refute what Vaj said. > > Do you guys really have nothing else to do in your lives? She can twist > things all you want, but if sh

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: for those who still love and or thank Maharishi

2012-07-19 Thread Vaj
On Jul 19, 2012, at 5:15 PM, Xenophaneros Anartaxius wrote: > All you have to do is find some other way to refute what Vaj said. Do you guys really have nothing else to do in your lives? She can twist things all you want, but if she missed the spirit of the message to begin with, all authenti

[FairfieldLife] Re: for those who still love and or thank Maharishi

2012-07-19 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn wrote: > > > > > > No it doesn't. Did you skim the conversation between Robin > > > and Share on personal and univ

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: for those who still love and or thank Maharishi

2012-07-19 Thread Emily Reyn
and stopped > assuming you are "right" all the time, you might not need to "skim" > everything to support your constructed premises.   > > > ____ > From: turquoiseb > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2

[FairfieldLife] Re: for those who still love and or thank Maharishi

2012-07-19 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn wrote: > > > > No it doesn't. Did you skim the conversation between Robin > > and Share on personal and universal love? One didn't need > > to be a Maharishi-knower or TM-doer to enjoy

[FairfieldLife] Re: for those who still love and or thank Maharishi

2012-07-19 Thread Robin Carlsen
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" wrote: > > > > I don't have time to read more than a small part of what gets posted here, > but I do want to say that I like Robin Carlsen. I think his views and > experiences are interesting. I don't think it's necessary to be steeped in > kn

[FairfieldLife] Re: for those who still love and or thank Maharishi

2012-07-19 Thread Robin Carlsen
Dear Xenophaneros, If someone is refusing to take on the energy and intellectual form of one's argument—and is deliberately avoiding the kind of clash out of which something honestly can be learned, understood, revealed—by this collision of views;—then if one of participants senses that the det

[FairfieldLife] Re: for those who still love and or thank Maharishi

2012-07-19 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: for those who still love and or thank Maharishi

2012-07-19 Thread authfriend
perceived threat they pose. > > > ____________________ > From: turquoiseb > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2012 12:25 AM > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: for those who still love and or thank Maharishi > > >   >

[FairfieldLife] Re: for those who still love and or thank Maharishi

2012-07-19 Thread Xenophaneros Anartaxius
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater wrote: > > > > > > > > --- I

[FairfieldLife] Re: for those who still love and or thank Maharishi

2012-07-19 Thread awoelflebater
t" all the time, you might not need to "skim" > everything to support your constructed premises.   > > > > From: turquoiseb > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2012 12:25 AM > Subject: [Fairfield

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: for those who still love and or thank Maharishi

2012-07-19 Thread Share Long
>From UC to Shoes and Strawberries:  One Masked Zebra's Journey RC, I sense a bestseller in the making (-: From: Robin Carlsen To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2012 8:23 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: for those who still

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: for those who still love and or thank Maharishi

2012-07-19 Thread Share Long
Thank you for saying this.  And for being so concise and clear.  I'm also glad Zebra is here in the menagerie with us (-: From: feste37 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2012 2:44 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: for those who

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: for those who still love and or thank Maharishi

2012-07-19 Thread Emily Reyn
ormer spiritual practices can understand it and benefit from it. Suffice it to say, teachers who actually do this are very rare, because it's HARD TO DO. So much easier to just rip off a bunch of pre-indoctrinated followers of an existing trip and then "re-indoctrinate" them to suit your

[FairfieldLife] Re: for those who still love and or thank Maharishi

2012-07-19 Thread feste37
I don't have time to read more than a small part of what gets posted here, but I do want to say that I like Robin Carlsen. I think his views and experiences are interesting. I don't think it's necessary to be steeped in knowledge of MMY to understand what Robin is saying (as someone has sugges

[FairfieldLife] Re: for those who still love and or thank Maharishi

2012-07-19 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > > Poetic ad hominems are

[FairfieldLife] Re: for those who still love and or thank Maharishi

2012-07-19 Thread Xenophaneros Anartaxius
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > > > > On Jul 19, 2012, at 8:48 AM, Robin Carlsen wrote: > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, V

[FairfieldLife] Re: for those who still love and or thank Maharishi

2012-07-19 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > On Jul 19, 2012, at 1:02 AM, turquoiseb wrote: > > > RC strikes me as *dependent* on Maharishi. Still. > > Almost everything he says that he is or pretends > > to be is in relation to Maharishi. His whole spiel > > *requires* in the listener a

[FairfieldLife] Re: for those who still love and or thank Maharishi

2012-07-19 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > > On Jul 19, 2012, at 8:48 AM, Robin Carlsen wrote: > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > > > > > > On Jul 19, 2012, at 1:02 AM, turquoiseb wrote: >

[FairfieldLife] Re: for those who still love and or thank Maharishi

2012-07-19 Thread Robin Carlsen
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > On Jul 19, 2012, at 10:35 AM, Robin Carlsen wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > > Vaj: Remember I've seen R. blow his stack enough times that I know > > he's not always Mr. Sattva. > > > > Response: And y

[FairfieldLife] Re: for those who still love and or thank Maharishi

2012-07-19 Thread authfriend
knowledge). > From: Robin Carlsen > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2012 10:17 PM > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: for those who still love and or thank Maharishi > > >   > > > This Is Just To Say > > I have eaten > the plums

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: for those who still love and or thank Maharishi

2012-07-19 Thread Vaj
On Jul 19, 2012, at 10:35 AM, Robin Carlsen wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: Vaj: Remember I've seen R. blow his stack enough times that I know he's not always Mr. Sattva. Response: And you forgot to bring your flowers and fruit and a white handkerchief. And you f

[FairfieldLife] Re: for those who still love and or thank Maharishi

2012-07-19 Thread authfriend
The fundamental *meanness* of these two people is striking--not just in the sense of malicious, wanting to do damage to someone; but in the sense of *small*--limited, constricted, pinched. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote

[FairfieldLife] Re: for those who still love and or thank Maharishi

2012-07-19 Thread Robin Carlsen
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > On Jul 19, 2012, at 10:20 AM, Robin Carlsen wrote: > > > "But by the way you say something I want to remark on: 'Even such a > > doctrine as the Incarnation may be believed by people like > > yourself', as a mystery, till it is formula

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: for those who still love and or thank Maharishi

2012-07-19 Thread Vaj
On Jul 19, 2012, at 10:20 AM, Robin Carlsen wrote: "But by the way you say something I want to remark on: 'Even such a doctrine as the Incarnation may be believed by people like yourself', as a mystery, till it is formulated, but as soon as it is it seems dragged down to the world of pros

[FairfieldLife] Re: for those who still love and or thank Maharishi

2012-07-19 Thread authfriend
The reason Barry has his facts bassackwards is that he abstains from reading Robin's posts, so all he can do is make stuff up. Why he thinks he can convince folks here who *do* read Robin's posts of his own made-up version, when they know otherwise, is a mystery. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.c

[FairfieldLife] Re: for those who still love and or thank Maharishi

2012-07-19 Thread Robin Carlsen
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: Vaj: Remember I've seen R. blow his stack enough times that I know he's not always Mr. Sattva. Response: And you forgot to bring your flowers and fruit and a white handkerchief. And you forgot to fill out the form. And you didn't even talk to

[FairfieldLife] Re: for those who still love and or thank Maharishi

2012-07-19 Thread Robin Carlsen
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > On Jul 19, 2012, at 8:48 AM, Robin Carlsen wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Jul 19, 2012, at 1:02 AM, turquoiseb wrote: > > > > > > > RC strikes me as *dependent* on Maharishi. Still. > >

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: for those who still love and or thank Maharishi

2012-07-19 Thread Vaj
On Jul 19, 2012, at 9:49 AM, awoelflebater wrote: Ah, but maybe you could have allowed them to go where straight logic and analytic argument can not. Go where you are perhaps just a tad softer, nicer, perhaps more human(e). It has to be in there Vaj. You can show us, we want to see, at lea

[FairfieldLife] Re: for those who still love and or thank Maharishi

2012-07-19 Thread awoelflebater
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > On Jul 19, 2012, at 8:48 AM, Robin Carlsen wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Jul 19, 2012, at 1:02 AM, turquoiseb wrote: > > > > > > > RC strikes me as *dependent* on Maharishi. Still. > >

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: for those who still love and or thank Maharishi

2012-07-19 Thread Vaj
On Jul 19, 2012, at 8:48 AM, Robin Carlsen wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > On Jul 19, 2012, at 1:02 AM, turquoiseb wrote: > > > RC strikes me as *dependent* on Maharishi. Still. > > Almost everything he says that he is or pretends > > to be is in relation to Mahar

[FairfieldLife] Re: for those who still love and or thank Maharishi

2012-07-19 Thread Robin Carlsen
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > > On Jul 19, 2012, at 1:02 AM, turquoiseb wrote: > > > > > > RC strikes me as *dependent* on Maharishi. Still. > > > Almost everything he says that he is or pretends > > > to be is

[FairfieldLife] Re: for those who still love and or thank Maharishi

2012-07-19 Thread Robin Carlsen
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > On Jul 19, 2012, at 1:02 AM, turquoiseb wrote: > > > RC strikes me as *dependent* on Maharishi. Still. > > Almost everything he says that he is or pretends > > to be is in relation to Maharishi. His whole spiel > > *requires* in the listen

[FairfieldLife] Re: for those who still love and or thank Maharishi

2012-07-19 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > On Jul 19, 2012, at 1:02 AM, turquoiseb wrote: > > > > RC strikes me as *dependent* on Maharishi. Still. > > Almost everything he says that he is or pretends > > to be is in relation to Maharishi. His whole spiel > > *requires* in the listener a

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: for those who still love and or thank Maharishi

2012-07-19 Thread Vaj
On Jul 19, 2012, at 1:02 AM, turquoiseb wrote: RC strikes me as *dependent* on Maharishi. Still. Almost everything he says that he is or pretends to be is in relation to Maharishi. His whole spiel *requires* in the listener a knowledge of Maharishi and what he taught to make any sense of it.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: for those who still love and or thank Maharishi

2012-07-19 Thread Vaj
On Jul 19, 2012, at 12:09 AM, Robin Carlsen wrote: Come on, Vaj: You'll love it. Being straightforward, direct, true. Read all that I have said here and address it head-on. Have you ever considered doing a bardo retreat? Then death will no longer be a mystery. Better to practice dying now

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: for those who still love and or thank Maharishi

2012-07-19 Thread Vaj
On Jul 19, 2012, at 12:14 AM, awoelflebater wrote: Hey Vaj, I haven't spoken (written) to you for a while. Can I ask you something? I know your history with Robin, I know you, but just the teeniest bit, and I really have to wonder. For someone who jumped into the early days of WTS and jump

[FairfieldLife] Re: for those who still love and or thank Maharishi

2012-07-19 Thread turquoiseb
say, teachers who actually do this are very rare, because it's HARD TO DO. So much easier to just rip off a bunch of pre-indoctrinated followers of an existing trip and then "re-indoctrinate" them to suit your needs. :-) > ________________ > From: turquoiseb

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: for those who still love and or thank Maharishi

2012-07-18 Thread Emily Reyn
To turqb:  See?  Hear? Understand? I rest my point, small point that it is. From: Robin Carlsen To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2012 10:17 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: for those who still love and or thank Maharishi   This

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: for those who still love and or thank Maharishi

2012-07-18 Thread Emily Reyn
From: turquoiseb To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2012 10:02 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: for those who still love and or thank Maharishi   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > Just as that high school hockey or football player > still remin

[FairfieldLife] Re: for those who still love and or thank Maharishi

2012-07-18 Thread Robin Carlsen
This Is Just To Say I have eaten the plums that were in the icebox and which you were probably saving for breakfast Forgive me they were delicious so sweet and so cold --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > > Just

[FairfieldLife] Re: for those who still love and or thank Maharishi

2012-07-18 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > Just as that high school hockey or football player > still reminisces on those golden days of yore, I > could easily see how someone so strongly resonating > with their past would tend to see the world still > through those old daze. It mere

[FairfieldLife] Re: for those who still love and or thank Maharishi

2012-07-18 Thread awoelflebater
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > On Jul 18, 2012, at 1:18 PM, Robin Carlsen wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote > > > > Jul 18, 2012, at 10:36 AM, Robin Carlsen wrote: > > > > Robin1: Here's the problem with your analysis, Vaj: If one were to r

[FairfieldLife] Re: for those who still love and or thank Maharishi

2012-07-18 Thread Robin Carlsen
Dear Vajradhatu,, I have stormed the barricades, looked the devil in the eye, ransacked my life, cried in plaintive tones to the universe, and for the life of me, I find there is no answer to your thoroughly comprehensive put-down and demolishment of my post. I now know what Kingsley felt when New

[FairfieldLife] Re: for those who still love and or thank Maharishi

2012-07-18 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > I always thought a good "dark night of soul" book might be your next best > move. Get writing kiddo. Even if you have to tap into Brahman like for The > Discovery of Grace, hey I doubt the Big Guy would mind, ya know? Let your > little heretic

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: for those who still love and or thank Maharishi

2012-07-18 Thread Vaj
On Jul 18, 2012, at 6:12 PM, Robin Carlsen wrote: > I have stormed the barricades, looked the devil in the eye, ransacked my > life, cried in plaintive tones to the universe, and for the life of me, I > find there is no answer to your thoroughly comprehensive put-down and > demolishment of my

[FairfieldLife] Re: for those who still love and or thank Maharishi

2012-07-18 Thread Robin Carlsen
Dear Vajradhatu,, I have stormed the barricades, looked the devil in the eye, ransacked my life, cried in plaintive tones to the universe, and for the life of me, I find there is no answer to your thoroughly comprehensive put-down and demolishment of my post. I now know what Kingsley felt whe

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: for those who still love and or thank Maharishi

2012-07-18 Thread Vaj
On Jul 18, 2012, at 1:18 PM, Robin Carlsen wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote > > Jul 18, 2012, at 10:36 AM, Robin Carlsen wrote: > > Robin1: Here's the problem with your analysis, Vaj: If one were to read what > Share Long has posted, then my post in response to her pos

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: for those who still love and or thank Maharishi

2012-07-18 Thread Bhairitu
On 07/18/2012 09:13 AM, Vaj wrote: > > On Jul 18, 2012, at 12:01 PM, turquoiseb wrote: > >> It's fascinating, Vaj, but I really feel such a distance >> from Maharishi in every possible way -- emotionally, spir- >> itually, and intellectually -- that I can't work up enough >> interest to read anythi

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: for those who still love and or thank Maharishi to meru d

2012-07-18 Thread Share Long
swamp (-: From: merudanda To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2012 11:04 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: for those who still love and or thank Maharishi   thanks for the Golden heart -that so tender and generous  before the world unfolded itself

[FairfieldLife] Re: for those who still love and or thank Maharishi

2012-07-18 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > It's fascinating, Vaj, but I really feel such a distance > from Maharishi in every possible way -- emotionally, spir- > itually, and intellectually -- that I can't work up enough > interest to read anything by him these days, let alone >

[FairfieldLife] Re: for those who still love and or thank Maharishi

2012-07-18 Thread Robin Carlsen
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote Jul 18, 2012, at 10:36 AM, Robin Carlsen wrote: Robin1: Here's the problem with your analysis, Vaj: If one were to read what Share Long has posted, then my post in response to her post, a person would form a certain portrait of this man—in the

[FairfieldLife] Re: for those who still love and or thank Maharishi to Vaj

2012-07-18 Thread authfriend
airfieldLife] Re: for those who still love and or thank > Maharishi to Vaj > > >   > > On Jul 18, 2012, at 11:41 AM, Share Long wrote: > > > If the Tao is really the Tao, how could it possibly ALWAYS be > > barred to the sentimental? > > Becaus

[FairfieldLife] Re: for those who still love and or thank Maharishi

2012-07-18 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, merudanda wrote: > > thanks for the Golden heart -that so tender and generous > before the world unfolded itself I've been moving...and busy...and thus not reading FFL very much, so I don't know what you're referring to with the phrase "golden heart." But t

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: for those who still love and or thank Maharishi to Vaj

2012-07-18 Thread Share Long
Perhaps the Tao too?!  Very crowded eye ball (-: From: Vaj To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2012 11:14 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: for those who still love and or thank Maharishi to Vaj   On Jul 18, 2012, at 12:05 PM

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: for those who still love and or thank Maharishi to Vaj

2012-07-18 Thread Vaj
On Jul 18, 2012, at 12:05 PM, Share Long wrote: > But that sounds like sentimentality is more powerful than Tao! > Perhaps charm is in the eyes of the beholder?

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: for those who still love and or thank Maharishi

2012-07-18 Thread Vaj
On Jul 18, 2012, at 12:01 PM, turquoiseb wrote: It's fascinating, Vaj, but I really feel such a distance from Maharishi in every possible way -- emotionally, spir- itually, and intellectually -- that I can't work up enough interest to read anything by him these days, let alone about him. He jus

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: for those who still love and or thank Maharishi to Vaj

2012-07-18 Thread Share Long
But that sounds like sentimentality is more powerful than Tao! From: Vaj To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2012 10:58 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: for those who still love and or thank Maharishi to Vaj   On Jul 18, 2012

[FairfieldLife] Re: for those who still love and or thank Maharishi

2012-07-18 Thread merudanda
arts are very very tender. Good to proceed gently... > > > > > From: Robin Carlsen maskedzebra@... > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2012 9:15 AM > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: for those who still love and or thank Maharishi > > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: for those who still love and or thank Maharishi

2012-07-18 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > On Jul 18, 2012, at 10:15 AM, Robin Carlsen wrote: > > > > And for a perspective on Maharishi that I find unimpeachable > > I recommend Robert McCutcheon's "Afterword and Witness > > Testimonial" in Judy Bourque's *Robes of Silk Feet of Cla

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: for those who still love and or thank Maharishi to Vaj

2012-07-18 Thread Vaj
On Jul 18, 2012, at 11:41 AM, Share Long wrote: > If the Tao is really the Tao, how could it possibly ALWAYS be > barred to the sentimental? Because the sentimental cling to preferences...otherwise they wouldn't be sentimental...

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2012-07-18 Thread Share Long
dLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2012 10:26 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: for those who still love and or thank Maharishi   On Jul 18, 2012, at 10:36 AM, Robin Carlsen wrote: Here's the problem with your analysis, Vaj: If one were to read what Share Long has posted, then

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2012-07-18 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > On Jul 18, 2012, at 10:26 AM, Buck wrote: > > > I knew very little of the stories told in the film. It was rather > > disconcerting. > > > I believe if the parts of the interview with the Shankaracharya of > Jyotir Math that were edi

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2012-07-18 Thread Share Long
ve that Life flows to and from me. Share From: Robin Carlsen To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2012 7:52 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: for those who still love and or thank Maharishi   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share

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2012-07-18 Thread Vaj
On Jul 18, 2012, at 10:36 AM, Robin Carlsen wrote: Here's the problem with your analysis, Vaj: If one were to read what Share Long has posted, then my post in response to her post, a person would form a certain portrait of this man—in the abstract, then. But presumably with some faint feel

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2012-07-18 Thread Vaj
On Jul 18, 2012, at 10:26 AM, Buck wrote: I knew very little of the stories told in the film. It was rather disconcerting. I believe if the parts of the interview with the Shankaracharya of Jyotir Math that were edited out of the movie are eventually included on the DVD, that will be ex

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2012-07-18 Thread Vaj
On Jul 18, 2012, at 10:15 AM, Robin Carlsen wrote: And for a perspective on Maharishi that I find unimpeachable I recommend Robert McCutcheon's "Afterword and Witness Testimonial" in Judy Bourque's *Robes of Silk Feet of Clay* (pp. 213-219). Quite definitive, I think. I've not read it,

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2012-07-18 Thread Robin Carlsen
om: Robin Carlsen > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2012 9:15 AM > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: for those who still love and or thank Maharishi > > >   > And for a perspective on Maharishi that I find unimpeachable I recommend > Robert McC

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2012-07-18 Thread Share Long
that hearts are very very tender.  Good to proceed gently... From: Robin Carlsen To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2012 9:15 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: for those who still love and or thank Maharishi   And for a perspecti

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2012-07-18 Thread Vaj
On Jul 18, 2012, at 10:08 AM, Robin Carlsen wrote: But what did YOU think of him, Vaj? What was your own individualized perception and experience of Maharishi Mahesh Yogi? You will never tell us this. He always reminded me of a Hindu rug salesman, kinda greasy and agenda-driven. I liked

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2012-07-18 Thread Robin Carlsen
Dear Vaj, Here's the problem with your analysis, Vaj: If one were to read what Share Long has posted, then my post in response to her post, a person would form a certain portrait of this man—in the abstract, then. But presumably with some faint feeling of what this guy must have been like to kn

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2012-07-18 Thread Buck
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robin Carlsen" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: > > > > this slide show brought tears to my eyes, love and gratitude overflowing > > > > unstressing will happen later (-: > > > > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/wa

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2012-07-18 Thread Robin Carlsen
And for a perspective on Maharishi that I find unimpeachable I recommend Robert McCutcheon's "Afterword and Witness Testimonial" in Judy Bourque's *Robes of Silk Feet of Clay* (pp. 213-219). Quite definitive, I think. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > On Jul 18, 2012, at 8

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2012-07-18 Thread Robin Carlsen
But what did YOU think of him, Vaj? What was your own individualized perception and experience of Maharishi Mahesh Yogi? You will never tell us this. But that said: Let us not start fighting here. :-) I respect your family's apprehension of MMY. I know of persons (whose judgment I trust) who ha

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2012-07-18 Thread Vaj
On Jul 18, 2012, at 8:52 AM, Robin Carlsen wrote: Now this leaves open the question, then, of Maharishi's actual status independently of TM (and everything else that was added to this over time). Are there persons—not Indian saints in the Himalayas—the saints in Rishikesh paid tribute to h

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2012-07-18 Thread Robin Carlsen
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: > > this slide show brought tears to my eyes, love and gratitude overflowing > > unstressing will happen later (-: > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YlffubR2N9Y&feature=youtu.be this slide show brought tears to my eyes, love and g