Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote:
>
> On Monday, 8 July 2002 at 14:46:29 -0700, Kent Stewart wrote:
> > All of the manufacturers have a program that will do that. Many of
> > them even produce a bootable floppy. Check their support web page.
>
> I went looking for format utilities and didn't find any
On Tue, 9 Jul 2002, Don Lewis wrote:
> On 8 Jul, Peter Wemm wrote:
> > Julian Elischer wrote:
> >> this is not a 'reformat'
> >>
> >> what I want to do is an old-fashionned refomat/verify where the controller
> >> writes new track headers etc.
> >
> > The thing is, just about all IDE drives more
> "Robert" == Robert Klein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Robert> On Montag, 8. Juli 2002 23:46, Kent Stewart wrote:
>> Julian Elischer wrote: > The machiine has 1 CD drive and no
>> floppy..
Robert> ^^
>> All of the manufacturers have a program that will do
On 8 Jul, Peter Wemm wrote:
> Julian Elischer wrote:
>> this is not a 'reformat'
>>
>> what I want to do is an old-fashionned refomat/verify where the controller
>> writes new track headers etc.
>
> The thing is, just about all IDE drives more than a few GB or so do 'track
> writing' and have n
It seems Julian Elischer wrote:
> One of my FreeBSD development boxes had a hernia last week when it lost
> power while writing to disk. The drive wrote out garbage to a track.
>
> I want to reformat the drive, (low level) but the bios doesn't have any
> support to do this (In the past That is ho
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Terry Lambert writes:
> Julian Elischer wrote:
> > According to the specs I had access to at Whistle they were pretty much
> > the same low level device with different interface logic.
> > The ATA drives I have seen had a format capacity
> > just like their scsi cou
Howdy,
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Peter Wemm
> Sent: Tuesday, 9 July 2002 12:44
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: offtopic: low level format of IDE drive.
Kris Kirby wrote:
> On Mon, 8 Jul 2002, Terry Lambert wrote:
> > > Does anyone have a detailed list of which SCSI drives do track writes
> > > rather than sector writes?
> >
> > All the broken ones.
>
> Could you be a little more specific? :-)
Hard drive selection has always been an exclusion se
en; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: offtopic: low level format of IDE drive.
> >
> > [snip]
> >
> > So, this basically means that even a journalling filesystem wouldn't
> > be much safer... how about battery backed up controllers - would those
>
On Mon, 8 Jul 2002, Terry Lambert wrote:
> > Does anyone have a detailed list of which SCSI drives do track writes
> > rather than sector writes?
>
> All the broken ones.
Could you be a little more specific? :-)
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Chris Knight wrote:
> Does anyone have a detailed list of which SCSI drives do track writes
> rather than sector writes?
All the broken ones.
-- Terry
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Matthew Dillon wrote:
> I've had direct experience with this. Seagate drives will indeed lose
> up to two sectors if you are writing during a power loss... and this
> is *GOOD* for the industry.
You went to "Men In Black II" this weekend, didn't you?
Do you have "Conspiracy Theorist
Howdy,
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mike Silbersack
> Sent: Tuesday, 9 July 2002 10:53
> To: Peter Wemm
> Cc: Julian Elischer; John Nielsen; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: offtopic: low level format of
Julian Elischer wrote:
> According to the specs I had access to at Whistle they were pretty much
> the same low level device with different interface logic.
> The ATA drives I have seen had a format capacity
> just like their scsi cousins, just hard to find.
Actually, if you read through the thre
On Monday, 8 July 2002 at 14:46:29 -0700, Kent Stewart wrote:
> Julian Elischer wrote:
>
>> One of my FreeBSD development boxes had a hernia last week when it lost
>> power while writing to disk. The drive wrote out garbage to a track.
>>
>> I want to reformat the drive, (low level) but the bios
On Mon, 8 Jul 2002, Peter Wemm wrote:
> The thing is, just about all IDE drives more than a few GB or so do 'track
> writing' and have no fixed sectoring or sector positioning. ie: each time
> you write a single sector to a track, it does a read-modify-write of *THE
> ENTIRE TRACK*. This is wh
On Mon, Jul 08, 2002 at 04:40:04PM -0700, Matthew Dillon wrote:
>
> :> > Julian got struck by lightning; perhaps he will now stick to disks
> :> > with built-in lightning rods (e.g. not succeptible to this failure),
> :> > e.g. SCSI.
> :>
> :> This is an urban ledgend..
> :
> :No - it's SCSI Spe
On Mon, 8 Jul 2002, Peter Wemm wrote:
> Julian Elischer wrote:
> > this is not a 'reformat'
> >
> > what I want to do is an old-fashionned refomat/verify where the controller
> > writes new track headers etc.
>
> The thing is, just about all IDE drives more than a few GB or so do
> 'track wri
:> > Julian got struck by lightning; perhaps he will now stick to disks
:> > with built-in lightning rods (e.g. not succeptible to this failure),
:> > e.g. SCSI.
:>
:> This is an urban ledgend..
:
:No - it's SCSI Specs.
:A SCSI Disk is required to savely finish the started sector even
:on powerl
Julian Elischer wrote:
> this is not a 'reformat'
>
> what I want to do is an old-fashionned refomat/verify where the controller
> writes new track headers etc.
The thing is, just about all IDE drives more than a few GB or so do 'track
writing' and have no fixed sectoring or sector positioning.
Robert Klein wrote:
> On Montag, 8. Juli 2002 23:46, Kent Stewart wrote:
>
>>Julian Elischer wrote:
>>
>>>The machiine has 1 CD drive and no floppy..
>>>
> ^^
>
>
>>All of the manufacturers have a program that will do that. Many of
>>them even produce a bo
On Mon, 8 Jul 2002, Terry Lambert wrote:
> Julian Elischer wrote:
> > On Mon, 8 Jul 2002, Terry Lambert wrote:
> > > Julian got struck by lightning; perhaps he will now stick to disks
> > > with built-in lightning rods (e.g. not succeptible to this failure),
> > > e.g. SCSI.
> >
> > This is an
On Mon, 8 Jul 2002, Julian Elischer wrote:
>
>
> On Mon, 8 Jul 2002, Terry Lambert wrote:
>
> >
> > Julian got struck by lightning; perhaps he will now stick to disks
> > with built-in lightning rods (e.g. not succeptible to this failure),
> > e.g. SCSI.
>
> This is an urban ledgend..
Which part
On Mon, Jul 08, 2002 at 02:53:20PM -0700, Julian Elischer wrote:
>
>
> On Mon, 8 Jul 2002, Terry Lambert wrote:
>
> >
> > Julian got struck by lightning; perhaps he will now stick to disks
> > with built-in lightning rods (e.g. not succeptible to this failure),
> > e.g. SCSI.
>
> This is an u
> One of my FreeBSD development boxes had a hernia last week when it lost
> power while writing to disk. The drive wrote out garbage to a track.
>
> I want to reformat the drive, (low level) but the bios doesn't have any
> support to do this (In the past That is how I did this).
> The machiine ha
Julian Elischer wrote:
> On Mon, 8 Jul 2002, Terry Lambert wrote:
> > Julian got struck by lightning; perhaps he will now stick to disks
> > with built-in lightning rods (e.g. not succeptible to this failure),
> > e.g. SCSI.
>
> This is an urban ledgend..
That SCSI disks don't use random inter-r
On Mon, 8 Jul 2002, Terry Lambert wrote:
>
> Julian got struck by lightning; perhaps he will now stick to disks
> with built-in lightning rods (e.g. not succeptible to this failure),
> e.g. SCSI.
This is an urban ledgend..
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On Montag, 8. Juli 2002 23:46, Kent Stewart wrote:
> Julian Elischer wrote:
> > The machiine has 1 CD drive and no floppy..
^^
> All of the manufacturers have a program that will do that. Many of
> them even produce a bootable floppy. Check their support web pa
Julian Elischer wrote:
> One of my FreeBSD development boxes had a hernia last week when it lost
> power while writing to disk. The drive wrote out garbage to a track.
>
> I want to reformat the drive, (low level) but the bios doesn't have any
> support to do this (In the past That is how I di
> this is not a 'reformat'
>
> what I want to do is an old-fashionned refomat/verify where the controller
> writes new track headers etc.
>
You want to follow terry's advice then.
Ken
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Luigi Rizzo wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 08, 2002 at 02:08:27PM -0700, Matthew Dillon wrote:
> ...
> > :power while writing to disk. The drive wrote out garbage to a track.
> > :
> > :I want to reformat the drive, (low level) but the bios doesn't have any
>
> for what matters, sometimes I managed to reco
this is not a 'reformat'
what I want to do is an old-fashionned refomat/verify where the controller
writes new track headers etc.
On Mon, 8 Jul 2002, John Nielsen wrote:
> Julian Elischer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > One of my FreeBSD development boxes had a hernia last week when it lost
> >
Julian Elischer wrote:
> One of my FreeBSD development boxes had a hernia last week when it lost
> power while writing to disk. The drive wrote out garbage to a track.
>
> I want to reformat the drive, (low level) but the bios doesn't have any
> support to do this (In the past That is how I did t
On Mon, Jul 08, 2002 at 02:08:27PM -0700, Matthew Dillon wrote:
...
> :power while writing to disk. The drive wrote out garbage to a track.
> :
> :I want to reformat the drive, (low level) but the bios doesn't have any
for what matters, sometimes I managed to recover the disk by just
dd'ing a zer
Julian Elischer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> One of my FreeBSD development boxes had a hernia last week when it lost
> power while writing to disk. The drive wrote out garbage to a track.
>
> I want to reformat the drive, (low level) but the bios doesn't have any
> support to do this (In the past
:
:One of my FreeBSD development boxes had a hernia last week when it lost
:power while writing to disk. The drive wrote out garbage to a track.
:
:I want to reformat the drive, (low level) but the bios doesn't have any
:support to do this (In the past That is how I did this).
:The machiine has 1
One of my FreeBSD development boxes had a hernia last week when it lost
power while writing to disk. The drive wrote out garbage to a track.
I want to reformat the drive, (low level) but the bios doesn't have any
support to do this (In the past That is how I did this).
The machiine has 1 CD drive
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