Re: [FRIAM] Understanding the Occupy Movementf

2012-01-22 Thread Owen Densmore
Thanks Eric, shed very useful light, both the distinction between 99 & Occupy, and the surprising work by Bar-Yam. I hope robustness is a compelling argument to politicians, it certainly should be. The recent success of the populist response to SOPA and PIPA gives one some hope that we can steer

Re: [FRIAM] Understanding the Occupy Movementf

2012-01-21 Thread Arlo Barnes
Jochen, it seems like your question is generating a variety of types of answers, maybe you want to clarify your meaning in the context of the answers given so far? That said, this would be an excellent Quora question/set-of-answers. I think (from my very tangential experience,

Re: [FRIAM] Understanding the Occupy Movementf

2012-01-21 Thread Grant Holland
Eric Smith Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2012 7:22 AM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Understanding the Occupy Movementf Oops, sorry for two posts: To address the specifics of your post, which I meant to do. If social inequality is the main question, t

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2012-01-21 Thread Pamela McCorduck
Disagree about politics vs. psychology, though they are deeply intertwined. And Nick, I salute you for your activism. Did NOT know that WalMart has a different tax rate than local businesses. Them that has gits. Pamela On Jan 21, 2012, at 2:35 PM, Jochen Fromm wrote: Looks like you have

Re: [FRIAM] Understanding the Occupy Movementf

2012-01-21 Thread Jochen Fromm
Looks like you have lost interest in Psychology? Your book about the new realists with Eric seems to be published, right? I guess it was called 'A new look at new realism'. No other book in the pipeline? I think Psychology is still much more fascinating than Politics. -J. Sent from Android

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2012-01-21 Thread Nicholas Thompson
attention. Given that I am also ADD, I can appreciate what an effort it was. (};-]) Nick -Original Message- From: friam-boun...@redfish.com [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Eric Smith Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2012 7:22 AM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Cof

Re: [FRIAM] Understanding the Occupy Movementf

2012-01-21 Thread Eric Smith
Oops, sorry for two posts: To address the specifics of your post, which I meant to do. If social inequality is the main question, then it may be a partisan issue, because there will be a spread of opinions in the society of what is desirable, and at some level of approximation, the adoption

Re: [FRIAM] Understanding the Occupy Movementf

2012-01-21 Thread Eric Smith
Jochen, hi, For a while I have shown the sense to stay quiet, but let me try to address this one a little, because I can send a file that has some technical papers which I think address some of these points. It seems to me that the 99%/1% paradigm and Occupy are targeted at slightly diffe

[FRIAM] Understanding the Occupy Movementf

2012-01-21 Thread Jochen Fromm
I know the hot topic now is SOPA. I understand this is important. What I do not understand is the occupy movement. The basic idea goes like this: * perception: 1% of the people own 99% of the money * reason: injustice! inequality! * action: sit down and occupy their places Something which every