Re: gEDA-user: TO-263 footprint

2006-11-27 Thread Jeff VR
I'm excited to say the status is now: works great. On 11/16/06, John Luciani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 11/16/06, Jeff VR <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I just received my boards which are using this TO-263 footprint. They > should be placing and assembling the board tomorrow but I just wanted

Re: gEDA-user: LED in reverse

2006-11-27 Thread Karel Kulhavy
On Sun, Nov 26, 2006 at 10:19:35AM -0500, John Doty wrote: > > On Nov 23, 2006, at 2:17 AM, Karel Kulhavy wrote: > > > > >>> > >>>My application is noise-critical between 1MHz and 10MHz. Would > >>>BC547C be > >>>better than 2N3904? I assume it's not a switching transistor. > >>> > >>Rather us

Re: gEDA-user: OT: Flash device/manufacturer ID index

2006-11-27 Thread Michael Sokolov
Patrick Doyle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Does anybody know of a comprehensive (or even a not so comprehensive > -- at this point I'll settle for anything) list mapping FLASH > manufacturer/device ID's to devices? You may want to check the list of device IDs in the Linux MTD driver or in the U-B

Re: gEDA-user: OT: Flash device/manufacturer ID index

2006-11-27 Thread Patrick Doyle
On 11/27/06, Patrick Doyle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Here's a to which question I'll bet somebody on this list knows an answer... Of course, I meant "Here's a question to which I'll bet..." It's been a long day :-) --wpd ___ geda-user mailing lis

gEDA-user: OT: Flash device/manufacturer ID index

2006-11-27 Thread Patrick Doyle
Here's a to which question I'll bet somebody on this list knows an answer... Does anybody know of a comprehensive (or even a not so comprehensive -- at this point I'll settle for anything) list mapping FLASH manufacturer/device ID's to devices? Right now, I have a single number, 20005F22, which

Re: gEDA-user: Board fabrication

2006-11-27 Thread DJ Delorie
> Wow, it's already there! The circles seem small -- is starting with > a small drill , then using a large one the recommended way to use > this pcb feature? The theory is that drill runout is a fixed amount, so larger drills wouldn't need a physical helper, just a visual target, because presuma

Re: gEDA-user: Board fabrication

2006-11-27 Thread John Griessen
Wow, it's already there! The circles seem small -- is starting with a small drill , then using a large one the recommended way to use this pcb feature? I had to use export to ps to see it... When I used print layout as the pcb manual suggests, there was no to-file option, (lesstif compile), a

Re: gEDA-user: latest mini-project: R8C SDIP adapter

2006-11-27 Thread John Griessen
DJ Delorie wrote: Anyone know how to clean off "no clean" flux? The flux paste is hot water wash off by Kester and EFD... so maybe the wire solder flux will also? For flux paste, HOT is defined as 130 deg F John G ___ geda-user mailing list g

Re: gEDA-user: autorouting

2006-11-27 Thread John Griessen
Tomaz Solc wrote: In which cases do you use the built-in autorouter? Recently . . . . turned out the autorouter failed to route about a third of all nets and in the end I had to route it by hand. There is a way to guide the autorouter onto layers by making unwanted ones invisible, then

Re: gEDA-user: Crash with lesstif version of pcb

2006-11-27 Thread John Griessen
joeft wrote: DJ Delorie wrote: DJ, More info on this problem (hopefully useful to others) I'm not sure why but there were some missing links in /usr/lib to some of the required shared libraries. In particular, there was no /usr/lib/libXm.so. There is however a libXm.so.3. Just for gr

Re: gEDA-user: latest mini-project: R8C SDIP adapter

2006-11-27 Thread DJ Delorie
> The teardrops look very sixties/fifties DJ! Well, I've never seen any research reports or tutorials on "ideal teardrop designs" so I did what I thought was pretty and robust. If it's pretty *and* retro, bonus! > I have not updated to use them yet, but it will be good to. The key at the momen

Re: gEDA-user: Board fabrication

2006-11-27 Thread John Griessen
Wojciech Kazubski wrote: Current "dril helper" option is not usefull since a black dot in the center creates a bump which will drive a drill bit off the pad/via center. It is a small circle in the current lesstif version of PCB... Very small -- did you zoom in? John G _

Re: gEDA-user: latest mini-project: R8C SDIP adapter

2006-11-27 Thread John Griessen
DJ Delorie wrote: One-day project, so I can play with an R8C mcu: http://www.delorie.com/pcb/r8c-1b-adapter/ The teardrops look very sixties/fifties DJ! I have not updated to use them yet, but it will be good to. John G ___ geda-user mail

Re: gEDA-user: latest mini-project: R8C SDIP adapter

2006-11-27 Thread John Griessen
DJ Delorie wrote: Anyone know how to clean off "no clean" flux? The flux paste is hot water wash off by Kester and EFD... so maybe the wire solder flux will also? John G ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cg

Re: gEDA-user: autorouting

2006-11-27 Thread Vaughn Treude
DJ Delorie wrote: I'm curious. In which cases do you use the built-in autorouter? When the layout is a jumbled tangle of traces and there's plenty of room. Or for boards so simple that there's little chance of it screwing up. I used auto-routing on my most recent project with pretty good su

Re: gEDA-user: Symbols and pin numbers

2006-11-27 Thread John Luciani
On 11/27/06, Stephen Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The creation guide also suggests including the footprint= attribute to choose the footprint, but that may be obsolete advice given the arguments past that I've seen on this list. If there is a one to one relation between the footprint an

Re: gEDA-user: Crash with lesstif version of pcb

2006-11-27 Thread DJ Delorie
> I don't recall ever having the Xaw version on this machine, although > I've had the GTK version installed for quite a while. Where do I > look to see if there is a conflicting version of pcb-menu.res? The easiest way is to use strace: strace -o /tmp/foo ./pcb-bin (you can't run it against ju

Re: gEDA-user: Crash with lesstif version of pcb

2006-11-27 Thread joeft
DJ Delorie wrote: Perhaps you had an old Xaw version of pcb installed, and its pcb-menu.res is overriding the built-in lesstif version? I don't recall ever having the Xaw version on this machine, although I've had the GTK version installed for quite a while. Where do I look to see if ther

Re: gEDA-user: Crash with lesstif version of pcb

2006-11-27 Thread DJ Delorie
Perhaps you had an old Xaw version of pcb installed, and its pcb-menu.res is overriding the built-in lesstif version? ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user

Re: gEDA-user: Symbols and pin numbers

2006-11-27 Thread Werner Hoch
Hi Stephen, On Monday 27 November 2006 23:02, Stephen Williams wrote: > The problem is that my part (TI sn74avca406l) comes from the vendor > in two different packages, with slightly different pinout and > footprint. (One package adds a few reserved pins.) Do I just choose > a pinout and do the bi

Re: gEDA-user: Crash with lesstif version of pcb

2006-11-27 Thread joeft
DJ Delorie wrote: #2 0x40127026 in XmStringCreateLocalized (text=0x0) at XmString.c:4427 This looks suspicious. I'll investigate when I get a chance. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/li

gEDA-user: Symbols and pin numbers

2006-11-27 Thread Stephen Williams
I have a question about creating symbols. In particular, assigning pin numbers and footprint. The gEDA/gaf Symbol Creation Document is directing me to give my symbol pins pinseq= and pinnumber= attributes. I get the point of the pinseq= attribute, but the pinnumber= is a little bit of a puzzle to

Re: gEDA-user: autorouting

2006-11-27 Thread DJ Delorie
> I'm curious. In which cases do you use the built-in autorouter? When the layout is a jumbled tangle of traces and there's plenty of room. Or for boards so simple that there's little chance of it screwing up. The m3a board, for example, was 100% hand routed, because it's mostly busses, which c

Re: gEDA-user: autorouting

2006-11-27 Thread Tomaz Solc
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi > I use the built-in one, when I use it at all. Mostly I hand-route. I'm curious. In which cases do you use the built-in autorouter? Recently I was trying to use it to make a single-layer PCB for a keyboard with 54 keys - one of the most simple

Re: gEDA-user: stupid newbie question

2006-11-27 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Giorgenes Gelatti wrote: Could it be a printing problem? Paper changes sizes too. If you're confronted with a humid weather the paper may go into your laser bigger than it comes out. The length and width may change size differently as I believe there is some orientation to the fibers in mo

Re: gEDA-user: autorouting

2006-11-27 Thread al davis
On Monday 27 November 2006 12:18, DJ Delorie wrote: > Right, but the user should be able to "throw money" at a > problem if that's what they need, either spending money to > purchase a commercial autorouter, or paying someone to write > a free one.  Thus, it would be good to be able to say "PCB > s

Re: gEDA-user: autorouting

2006-11-27 Thread DJ Delorie
> but don't fall for the trap of a zero-cost restricted proprietary > one. Such things are a serious threat to the existence of truly > free software. Right, but the user should be able to "throw money" at a problem if that's what they need, either spending money to purchase a commercial autorou

Re: gEDA-user: autorouting

2006-11-27 Thread al davis
On Monday 27 November 2006 11:59, DJ Delorie wrote: > Personally, I'd rather have a GPL'd autorouter, but OTOH > giving the user the option to license a much more powerful > one is good too. but don't fall for the trap of a zero-cost restricted proprietary one. Such things are a serious threat

Re: gEDA-user: autorouting

2006-11-27 Thread DJ Delorie
> What solution are geda/pcb users using for autorouting? I use the built-in one, when I use it at all. Mostly I hand-route. > I've had some conversations with folks at http://www.konekt.com and > they asked if there would be interest from pcb users in a commercial > autorouter? It looks like

gEDA-user: autorouting

2006-11-27 Thread Cliff Brake
What solution are geda/pcb users using for autorouting? I've had some conversations with folks at http://www.konekt.com and they asked if there would be interest from pcb users in a commercial autorouter? It looks like they use the DSN format (whatever that is) so a PCB to DSN translator would b

Re: gEDA-user: Board fabrication

2006-11-27 Thread DJ Delorie
> Current "dril helper" option is not usefull since a black dot in the > center creates a bump which will drive a drill bit off the pad/via > center. The current drill helper leaves a ring, not a dot. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.or

gEDA-user: Re: latest mini-project: R8C SDIP adapter

2006-11-27 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
On Mon, 27 Nov 2006 16:08:17 +1300, Karl. wrote: > We used to use isopropyl alcohol (which I believe is the same as rubbing > alcohol) to soften the flux, then something called Freon TF to wash it > off. If this is the solvent made by Dupont, it is not exactly friendly to the environment. Chlor

Re: gEDA-user: stupid newbie question

2006-11-27 Thread Peter Clifton
On Mon, 2006-11-27 at 10:13 -0200, Giorgenes Gelatti wrote: > I've checked the datasheet and the footprint and they seem to comply > to each other. both have a 100 mil distance between the pins. > > Could it be a printing problem? > I'll try to send of photo later, showing the chip over the paper.

Re: gEDA-user: stupid newbie question

2006-11-27 Thread John Luciani
On 11/27/06, Giorgenes Gelatti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I've checked the datasheet and the footprint and they seem to comply to each other. both have a 100 mil distance between the pins. In PCB use the 5mil or 10mil grid, zoom in and either count the dots or use the measure command. If the va

Re: gEDA-user: Board fabrication

2006-11-27 Thread Wojciech Kazubski
> > What if we made a via shape for ease of non-automated drilling, (for > > prototyping)? I think a concentric circle of copper to aim the > > drill bit in and keep it from walking away from the center of the > > larger via or mounting hole would be helpful. > > Have you tried the "drill helper"

Re: gEDA-user: stupid newbie question

2006-11-27 Thread Giorgenes Gelatti
I've checked the datasheet and the footprint and they seem to comply to each other. both have a 100 mil distance between the pins. Could it be a printing problem? I'll try to send of photo later, showing the chip over the paper. Thank you. 2006/11/26, John Luciani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: On 11/26