Re: gEDA-user: Some pcb pecularities

2007-01-17 Thread DJ Delorie
> > I've recently seen short lines and arcs get exploded in the > > lesstif version too, but haven't tracked it down yet. > > The "new" GUI drawing code simply scales the line and then converts > the (now overflowed coordinated) to short ints and sends them X to > render. Before the HID came alon

Re: gEDA-user: Some pcb pecularities

2007-01-17 Thread Harry Eaton
--- DJ Delorie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > 1) Long lines do funny things if zoomed in a lot. > > I've recently seen short lines and arcs get exploded > in the lesstif > version too, but haven't tracked it down yet. The "new" GUI drawing code simply scales the line and then converts the (n

Re: gEDA-user: Re: Some pcb pecularities

2007-01-17 Thread joeft
Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: On Wed, 17 Jan 2007 11:20:00 -0500, DJ Delorie wrote: 3) Auto router and manual line drawing tool interpret line clearance differently. If clearance is set to 10 mil for a particular route style, the auto routed lines will punch a 10 mil gap into polygons. With manua

Re: gEDA-user: Re: Some pcb pecularities

2007-01-17 Thread DJ Delorie
> 9a) Text on silk layer catches drag focus even if the silk layer is > disbled. This prevents mouse actions on tracks if the text occupies the > same space. Check this with CVS, I fixed some bugs in this already. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user

gEDA-user: Re: Some pcb pecularities

2007-01-17 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
On Wed, 17 Jan 2007 22:01:13 +, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: > 9) Bug: If the silk layer is disabled, lines on silk still get selected by > dragging with the select tool. They stay invisible, but can will be moved > along with the rest of the selection. However, invisible silk lines seem > to be im

gEDA-user: Re: Some pcb pecularities

2007-01-17 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
On Wed, 17 Jan 2007 16:59:35 -0500, Dan McMahill wrote: > If you could verify that they still exist in the cvs version that would be > a big help. Ok, I will upgrade to CVS in a few days... ---<(kaimartin)>--- -- Kai-Martin Knaak http://lilalaser.de/blog

gEDA-user: Re: Some pcb pecularities

2007-01-17 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
As you might have guessed, there are more pecularities in my pipeline. These are number 6 to 10: 6) Bug: The action RouteStyle() does not affect the row of route style radio buttons. 7) Lost feature: The PCB manual mentions accel keys to the RouteStyle action. These seem to be occupied by the sel

Re: gEDA-user: Some pcb pecularities

2007-01-17 Thread Dan McMahill
Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: 5) The PCB subwindows (library, netlist, etc) don't receive official focus. I. e. the window manager (metacity) does not highlight its frame and some of the decorations won't work. E. g., dragging the window title fails to move the subwindow. this one is already fixed

Re: gEDA-user: Re: Some pcb pecularities

2007-01-17 Thread DJ Delorie
> So two out of five issues are solved :-) Remind us which remain... ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user

gEDA-user: Re: Some pcb pecularities

2007-01-17 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
On Wed, 17 Jan 2007 19:48:13 +0100, Tomaz Solc wrote: > However the latest CVS version of PCB works fine on my machine, so it > appears that somebody already fixed that bug. So two out of five issues are solved :-) ---<(kaimartin)>--- -- Kai-Martin Knaak http://lilalaser.de/blog

Re: gEDA-user: Some pcb pecularities

2007-01-17 Thread Tomaz Solc
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi > According to the documentation, "clearance" is the amount added to the > thickness of the line, so a 10 mil clearance should result in a 5 mil > gap on each side of the line. At least, that's what the file format > spec says. I tried this on my

Re: gEDA-user: Which PCB HID is better?

2007-01-17 Thread DJ Delorie
> > I've been thinking about letting the user define sidebars and toolbars > > in the pcb-menu.res file also, which would let them put what they want > > where they want. > > Yeah, yeah... Note I said "thinking" and not "planning" :-) ___ geda-user m

Re: gEDA-user: Re: Some pcb pecularities

2007-01-17 Thread Tomaz Solc
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi > Just updated to metacity v 2.14.5-2 as packaged by debian/etch. Dragging > works now. Still, the titlebar is not highlighted when the mouse moves in > (I made sure to set focus_mode to "mouse"). If I set focus_mode to "click", > the pcb sub windo

Re: gEDA-user: Some pcb pecularities

2007-01-17 Thread John Griessen
Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: 1) Long lines do funny things if zoomed in a lot. I've seen recent lesstif PCB change the zoom window settings just after dragging a selection larger than the current window settings when zoomed in close. Any one else? John Griessen

Re: gEDA-user: Which PCB HID is better?

2007-01-17 Thread John Griessen
DJ Delorie wrote: I've been thinking about letting the user define sidebars and toolbars in the pcb-menu.res file also, which would let them put what they want where they want. Yeah, yeah... JG ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.or

Re: gEDA-user: Re: Some pcb pecularities

2007-01-17 Thread DJ Delorie
> This is about manually routed tracks with vias inserted on the fly after a > change of layers. I tried the optimizer anyway, but to no avail. The mess > seems to occure only, if there are short tracks completely hidden under > the via. I thought the optimizer might remove them. They happen whe

gEDA-user: Re: Some pcb pecularities

2007-01-17 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
On Wed, 17 Jan 2007 11:20:00 -0500, DJ Delorie wrote: >> 3) Auto router and manual line drawing tool interpret line clearance >> differently. If clearance is set to 10 mil for a particular route style, >> the auto routed lines will punch a 10 mil gap into polygons. With manually >> drawn lines the

gEDA-user: Re: Some pcb pecularities

2007-01-17 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
On Wed, 17 Jan 2007 16:12:50 +0100, Tomaz Solc wrote: > If I set clearance to 10 mil, the gap between the line and the polygon > is exactly 10 mil (I've just tried that with both PCB versions). Sorry, I confused manual routing and auto routing. Manual routed lines do indeed receive a gap that mat

Re: gEDA-user: Some pcb pecularities

2007-01-17 Thread Steve Meier
Maybe they collapse to a singularity as you zoom out. ;) On Wed, 2007-01-17 at 12:01 -0500, DJ Delorie wrote: > > in gschem it is due to an overflow in the integer which stores the > > line-end coordinates at high zoom. > > In my case, though, I'm zoomed all the way *out* not *in*. > > > __

Re: gEDA-user: Some pcb pecularities

2007-01-17 Thread DJ Delorie
> in gschem it is due to an overflow in the integer which stores the > line-end coordinates at high zoom. In my case, though, I'm zoomed all the way *out* not *in*. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailma

Re: gEDA-user: Some pcb pecularities

2007-01-17 Thread Peter Clifton
On Wed, 2007-01-17 at 11:20 -0500, DJ Delorie wrote: > > 1) Long lines do funny things if zoomed in a lot. > > I've recently seen short lines and arcs get exploded in the lesstif > version too, but haven't tracked it down yet. This happens in gschem too.. in gschem it is due to an overflow in th

Re: gEDA-user: Re: Which PCB HID is better?

2007-01-17 Thread DJ Delorie
> What I miss from lesstif is mouse scroll support and word lookup > when you select files to load or save. But I guess it's a lestiff > vs. gtk thing, not HID vs HID thing. Lesstif uses the stock file selector dialog. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-

Re: gEDA-user: Some pcb pecularities

2007-01-17 Thread DJ Delorie
> 1) Long lines do funny things if zoomed in a lot. I've recently seen short lines and arcs get exploded in the lesstif version too, but haven't tracked it down yet. > 3) Auto router and manual line drawing tool interpret line clearance > differently. If clearance is set to 10 mil for a particul

Re: gEDA-user: Some pcb pecularities

2007-01-17 Thread Tomaz Solc
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi > 3) Auto router and manual line drawing tool interpret line clearance > differently. If clearance is set to 10 mil for a particular route style, > the auto routed lines will punch a 10 mil gap into polygons. With manually > drawn lines the gap is

gEDA-user: Re: Which PCB HID is better?

2007-01-17 Thread Levente Kovacs
What I miss from lesstif is mouse scroll support and word lookup when you select files to load or save. But I guess it's a lestiff vs. gtk thing, not HID vs HID thing. Levente ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/

gEDA-user: Some pcb pecularities

2007-01-17 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
While working with pcb v20060822, GTK GUI, I stumbled on the following pecularities: 1) Long lines do funny things if zoomed in a lot. 2) The arrow icons of the scroll bars refuse to work. 3) Auto router and manual line drawing tool interpret line clearance differently. If clearance is set to 10

Re: gEDA-user: PCB gerber export problem - update

2007-01-17 Thread Tomaz Solc
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi >> I'm guessing that it would be a simple change to fix aperture naming >> in PCB - it seems that most of the other PCB software out there >> takes care not to share names. > > I checked in a patch for this today, which has a globl aperture list >