Re: gEDA-user: local symbols vs gafrc

2007-07-04 Thread Ales Hvezda
[snip] >The problem is that component sources are now not all directories, so they >cannot be uniquely identified that way. You should have error spew in your >log dialog saying something like: > > Cannot add library [misc]: name in use. > >This is because sources are now uniquely identified by n

Re: gEDA-user: local symbols vs gafrc

2007-07-04 Thread DJ Delorie
> You should have error spew in your log dialog saying something like: > > Cannot add library [misc]: name in use. Yup. You should generate a reasonable name from the directory, if the extra parameter isn't given and there's a conflict. Also, the log message is misleading: The name [misc] w

Re: gEDA-user: local symbols vs gafrc

2007-07-04 Thread Peter TB Brett
On Wednesday 04 July 2007 23:51:44 DJ Delorie wrote: > Just updated to the latest git head, gschem is no longer reading > symbols from ./gafrc. Did something change? > > my gafrc, It's not using the "misc" one: Hi DJ, The problem is that component sources are now not all directories, so they ca

Re: gEDA-user: local symbols vs gafrc

2007-07-04 Thread DJ Delorie
> Note that (sort-component-library) is now _on_by default; are these libraries > appearing further down the list of libraries, or are they not getting loaded > at all? Symbols in the last-entered library are found; symbols from any other library are not found (the red "not found" symbol). Do

Re: gEDA-user: local symbols vs gafrc

2007-07-04 Thread Peter TB Brett
On Wednesday 04 July 2007 23:51:44 DJ Delorie wrote: > Just updated to the latest git head, gschem is no longer reading > symbols from ./gafrc. Did something change? Yes, the entire way that component libraries work changed between May 26th and the unstable branch. I cannot reproduce this -- an

Re: gEDA-user: two refdes's

2007-07-04 Thread Ales Hvezda
>> Note, problem does not occur when using gschem to embed. > >Ah, thanks. I regen'ed that file with gschem, works fine. > I'm a little surprised by this bug since the code paths for embedding components between gschem and gschlas look identical. I think something is going wrong in the pro

Re: gEDA-user: two refdes's

2007-07-04 Thread DJ Delorie
> Note, problem does not occur when using gschem to embed. Ah, thanks. I regen'ed that file with gschem, works fine. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user

Re: gEDA-user: liquid tin

2007-07-04 Thread DJ Delorie
Dave McGuire <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >I used that stuff probably ten years ago...it solders nicely. Just finished the reflow. It seems to grab the paste a little better than plain copper, and the reflow itself went just fine. The PTH soldering went fine too. Seems to be just as wettabl

Re: gEDA-user: wishful thinking from a user point of view (4)

2007-07-04 Thread Ales Hvezda
[snip] >As I think someone else suggested, why not bus green (color 10)? I don't >have time to work out how to do this, but I'm happy to check and commit >a patch. I've added a (junction-color ...) rc keyword to the light and dark background color schemes. For the dark scheme, the default ju

Re: gEDA-user: two refdes's

2007-07-04 Thread Ales Hvezda
>Clarification: I did an "embed all" with gschlas, that seems to have >pulled in the symbol's refdes=J? AND my local refdes=J401, without >merging or overwriting them. > >Still a bug, yes? Yes. Filed: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1748143&group_id=161080&atid=

Re: gEDA-user: liquid tin

2007-07-04 Thread Dave McGuire
On Jul 4, 2007, at 4:23 PM, Ales Hvezda wrote: >> Got some from Ales, played with it today, promised I'd do a writeup >> for him :-) > > Awesome DJ, thanks. That little board looks nice and tinned. > Now, how well does it solder? :) I used that stuff probably ten years ago...it solders n

Re: gEDA-user: two refdes's

2007-07-04 Thread DJ Delorie
DJ Delorie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Just updated to the latest git head, my symbols now all have two > refdes's each - the real one, and an extra "J?" style one in red. > Huh? Clarification: I did an "embed all" with gschlas, that seems to have pulled in the symbol's refdes=J? AND my local r

Re: gEDA-user: liquid tin

2007-07-04 Thread DJ Delorie
I added the design files and a layout drawing to the web page, so you can see where all the parts go. http://www.delorie.com/pcb/liquidtin/ ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user

gEDA-user: two refdes's

2007-07-04 Thread DJ Delorie
Just updated to the latest git head, my symbols now all have two refdes's each - the real one, and an extra "J?" style one in red. Huh? ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user

gEDA-user: local symbols vs gafrc

2007-07-04 Thread DJ Delorie
Just updated to the latest git head, gschem is no longer reading symbols from ./gafrc. Did something change? my gafrc, It's not using the "misc" one: (component-library "/envy/dj/geda/gedasymbols/www/user/dj_delorie/symbols/nvanalog") (component-library "/envy/dj/geda/gedasymbols/www/user/dj_

Re: gEDA-user: Thoughts using gschem

2007-07-04 Thread DJ Delorie
> It's at the top of my to-do list. In fact, all of the necessary code that > needs to be added to gEDA is already in the 1.1 branch. All that's needed is > to add the helper program which will maintain the local cache of symbols and > use curl to talk to the web server. I hope to make it so

Re: gEDA-user: liquid tin

2007-07-04 Thread DJ Delorie
> Now, how well does it solder? :) I don't know yet. I'm hoping to get time to solder it all up tonight. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user

Re: gEDA-user: segfault in latest gschem snapshot 1.0.1-20070626

2007-07-04 Thread Andy Peters
On Jul 4, 2007, at 12:37 PM, Peter TB Brett wrote: > On Wednesday 04 July 2007 20:30:47 Andy Peters wrote: >> On Jul 4, 2007, at 12:05 PM, Peter TB Brett wrote: >>> On Wednesday 04 July 2007 20:00:44 Andy Peters wrote: On OS X 10.4.10, Intel, I get a segfault when attempting to load a p

Re: gEDA-user: Thoughts using gschem

2007-07-04 Thread Peter TB Brett
On Wednesday 04 July 2007 19:50:23 Sean D'Epagnier wrote: > Instead I proprose adding a button in the components dialog window that > will copy the selected component it to the project-specific library and > switch to it. The actual location of the project directory could be > specified in gafrc,

Re: gEDA-user: Thoughts using gschem

2007-07-04 Thread Sean D'Epagnier
Hi, last week we talked about having a project specific library. I have had a look at the source code to gschem a little in hopes of implementing this, but I have come up with something that might be less intrusive and accomplish the same thing. The origninal suggestion was to copy the symbol from

Re: gEDA-user: liquid tin

2007-07-04 Thread DJ Delorie
> It's a beautiful layout DJ. Like the minimally no-metal-surrounded > pads. Still Mystified by the big square one upper right. Perhaps > if is a large component land for heat flow? but then why the > reliefs? Just to allow soldering? U401 is an LM2595 switcher in a TO-263 package. The big

Re: gEDA-user: wishful thinking from a user point of view (5)

2007-07-04 Thread Carlos Nieves Ónega
El mié, 04-07-2007 a las 22:08 +0200, Carlos Nieves Ónega escribió: > However, I tested it before posting, and it is not currently working. > The reason is that world_get_single_object_bounds is returning something > like left=100 right=120 bottom=395 top=405 for an horizontal net, when > some time

Re: gEDA-user: segfault in latest gschem snapshot 1.0.1-20070626

2007-07-04 Thread Ales Hvezda
[snip] >I'd love to provide one ... if I knew how! I'm a gdb dummy. Type: where at the gdb prompt. -Ales ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.or

Re: gEDA-user: liquid tin

2007-07-04 Thread Ales Hvezda
>Got some from Ales, played with it today, promised I'd do a writeup >for him :-) Awesome DJ, thanks. That little board looks nice and tinned. Now, how well does it solder? :) -Ales

Re: gEDA-user: wishful thinking from a user point of view (5)

2007-07-04 Thread Carlos Nieves Ónega
El mié, 04-07-2007 a las 10:09 +, Kai-Martin Knaak escribió: > My list of wishes and complaints still contains a load of items. If you > don't mind, I'll go on posting them in this thread. Next one is: > > > Currently, the letters of a new netname attribute touch the corr

Re: gEDA-user: segfault in latest gschem snapshot 1.0.1-20070626

2007-07-04 Thread Peter TB Brett
On Wednesday 04 July 2007 20:35:26 Andy Peters wrote: > On Jul 4, 2007, at 12:05 PM, Peter TB Brett wrote: > > On Wednesday 04 July 2007 20:00:44 Andy Peters wrote: > >> On OS X 10.4.10, Intel, I get a segfault when attempting to load a > >> previously-created schematic file (one made with the old

Re: gEDA-user: segfault in latest gschem snapshot 1.0.1-20070626

2007-07-04 Thread Andy Peters
On Jul 4, 2007, at 12:05 PM, Peter TB Brett wrote: > On Wednesday 04 July 2007 20:00:44 Andy Peters wrote: >> On OS X 10.4.10, Intel, I get a segfault when attempting to load a >> previously-created schematic file (one made with the old fink >> snapshot). Here is the gdb session: > > Hi there, >

Re: gEDA-user: segfault in latest gschem snapshot 1.0.1-20070626

2007-07-04 Thread Andy Peters
On Jul 4, 2007, at 12:05 PM, Peter TB Brett wrote: > On Wednesday 04 July 2007 20:00:44 Andy Peters wrote: >> On OS X 10.4.10, Intel, I get a segfault when attempting to load a >> previously-created schematic file (one made with the old fink >> snapshot). Here is the gdb session: > > Hi there, >

Re: gEDA-user: liquid tin

2007-07-04 Thread Bert Timmerman
Hi DJ, Looks good. I can imagine the tin needs some time to cure before it gets mechanically stable. Kind regards, Bert Timmerman. On Wed, 2007-07-04 at 14:00 -0400, DJ Delorie wrote: > Got some from Ales, played with it today, promised I'd do a writeup > for him :-) > > http://www.delorie.co

Re: gEDA-user: liquid tin

2007-07-04 Thread Ben Jackson
On Wed, Jul 04, 2007 at 01:28:54PM -0500, John Griessen wrote: > > > > http://www.delorie.com/pcb/liquidtin/ > > Still Mystified by the big square one upper right. Perhaps if > is a large component land for heat flow? Looks like a DD5 type package. They have a large, flat metal tab on the body

Re: gEDA-user: segfault in latest gschem snapshot 1.0.1-20070626

2007-07-04 Thread Peter TB Brett
On Wednesday 04 July 2007 20:00:44 Andy Peters wrote: > On OS X 10.4.10, Intel, I get a segfault when attempting to load a > previously-created schematic file (one made with the old fink > snapshot). Here is the gdb session: Hi there, A backtrace would be useful. ;) Peter

gEDA-user: segfault in latest gschem snapshot 1.0.1-20070626

2007-07-04 Thread Andy Peters
On OS X 10.4.10, Intel, I get a segfault when attempting to load a previously-created schematic file (one made with the old fink snapshot). Here is the gdb session: dizbuster:~/Devel/remote/pcb andy$ gdb GNU gdb 6.3.50-20050815 (Apple version gdb-573) (Fri Oct 20 15:50:43 GMT 2006) Copyrigh

Re: gEDA-user: wishful thinking from a user point of view (5)

2007-07-04 Thread John Griessen
Werner Hoch wrote: > I didn't know about this feature and thus I wondered whether it is part > of the documentation or whether I should add it. > > And surprise: > http://geda.seul.org/wiki/geda:gschem_ug#attribute..._aa I've been using it, but did not know about the possible gain from moving

Re: gEDA-user: liquid tin

2007-07-04 Thread John Griessen
DJ Delorie wrote: > Got some from Ales, played with it today, promised I'd do a writeup > for him :-) > > http://www.delorie.com/pcb/liquidtin/ It's a beautiful layout DJ. Like the minimally no-metal-surrounded pads. Still Mystified by the big square one upper right. Perhaps if is a large com

Re: gEDA-user: wishful thinking from a user point of view (5)

2007-07-04 Thread Werner Hoch
Hi all, On Wednesday 04 July 2007 19:40, John Doty wrote: > On Jul 4, 2007, at 11:27 AM, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: > > In case of "aa": How does gschem know, which net the netname > > attribute should be logically attached to? > > It attaches the attribute to the selected net. It places the > attrib

gEDA-user: liquid tin

2007-07-04 Thread DJ Delorie
Got some from Ales, played with it today, promised I'd do a writeup for him :-) http://www.delorie.com/pcb/liquidtin/ ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user

gEDA-user: Component selector dialog

2007-07-04 Thread Peter TB Brett
Hi folks, Two changes (in unstable) to the component selector dialog that I thought people should be aware of: "In Use" view -- The most obvious addition is the "In Use" view, which shows a list of the symbols currently being used in open schematics. I'd prefer it to only list th

Re: gEDA-user: wishful thinking from a user point of view (5)

2007-07-04 Thread John Doty
On Jul 4, 2007, at 11:27 AM, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: > On Wed, 04 Jul 2007 06:49:59 -0600, John Doty wrote: > >> The attribute goes wherever the cursor is. Just move the cursor to >> where >> you want it before "aa". > > Hmm. If I want to attach a netname to a specific net, I usually select > t

Re: gEDA-user: wishful thinking from a user point of view (5)

2007-07-04 Thread DJ Delorie
> In case of "aa": How does gschem know, which net the netname > attribute should be logically attached to? Click on the net to select it. Put the mouse cursor where you want the attribute. Hit "aa". ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.o

Re: gEDA-user: wishful thinking from a user point of view (5)

2007-07-04 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
On Wed, 04 Jul 2007 06:49:59 -0600, John Doty wrote: > The attribute goes wherever the cursor is. Just move the cursor to where > you want it before "aa". Hmm. If I want to attach a netname to a specific net, I usually select the net and do "ee". The hot spot of the resulting attribute string wi

gEDA-user: deleting and replacing each instance to update PCB footrpint

2007-07-04 Thread John Griessen
Igor Izyumin wrote: > PCB does not currently allow you to > update a footprint without basically deleting and replacing each > instance. I am working on a rather extensive patch to fix that Sometimes I want to use different sources of footprints, and it is very important not to update the wrong

gEDA-user: wishful thinking vs. wiki updating

2007-07-04 Thread John Griessen
Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: > My list of wishes and complaints still contains a load of items. If you > don't mind, I'll go on posting them in this thread. Next one is: I documented some of this kind of wish listing a while ago, and it's on the Wiki at http://geda.seul.org/wiki/geda:design_flow_and_

Re: gEDA-user: wishful thinking from a user point of view (9)

2007-07-04 Thread Werner Hoch
Hi Kai-Martin, On Wednesday 04 July 2007 13:35, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: > Some dialogs don't define which button will be accessed by the return > key. I spotted two such dialogs: > 1) "Single Attribute Editor" > 2) "Edit Attributes" > Please make the ok/close button default. This is onl

Re: gEDA-user: wishful thinking from a user point of view (5)

2007-07-04 Thread John Doty
On Jul 4, 2007, at 4:09 AM, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: > > > Currently, the letters of a new netname attribute touch the > corresponding > net. Please place the attribute at a decent distance (e.g. 50 units > offset). > The attribute goes wherever the cur

Re: gEDA-user: wishful thinking from a user point of view (9)

2007-07-04 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
Some dialogs don't define which button will be accessed by the return key. I spotted two such dialogs: 1) "Single Attribute Editor" 2) "Edit Attributes" Please make the ok/close button default. ---<(kaimartin)>--- -- Kai-Martin Knaak tel: +49-511-762-

Re: gEDA-user: wishful thinking from a user point of view (5)

2007-07-04 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
On Wed, 04 Jul 2007 11:31:19 +0100, peter-rDcdRWvjh1wqdlJmJB21zg wrote: >> PS: My feature requests have been deleted from the BTS. > > They haven't -- they've been moved to the "Feature Requests" part of the > bug tracker system. Oups. Sorry for the inconvenience. I was ignorant of this sourcef

Re: gEDA-user: wishful thinking from a user point of view

2007-07-04 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
This is yet another feature request for gschem move: Currently connections can break on move under certain conditions, although rubberband option is active. This happens, if the connection is direct and "netless" between pins. Suggestion: Add a net if a connection threatens to break during mo

Re: gEDA-user: wishful thinking from a user point of view (5)

2007-07-04 Thread peter
> PS: My feature requests have been deleted from the BTS. So I'll stop > posting them there. They haven't -- they've been moved to the "Feature Requests" part of the bug tracker system. I did it. Please please do continue putting them in the tracker! Thanks, Peter :) __

Re: gEDA-user: wishful thinking from a user point of view (7)

2007-07-04 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
Currently, rubberband move may lead to skewed nets. This is most probably not the desired shape of. Please add an option to restrict nets to rectangular style on rubberband move and make this the default. Add a perpendicular net if necessary, just like it is done with manual drawn nets. ---<(k

Re: gEDA-user: wishful thinking from a user point of view (5)

2007-07-04 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
My list of wishes and complaints still contains a load of items. If you don't mind, I'll go on posting them in this thread. Next one is: Currently, the letters of a new netname attribute touch the corresponding net. Please place the attribute at a decent distance (e.g. 50 un

Re: gEDA-user: wishful thinking from a user point of view (4)

2007-07-04 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
On Tue, 03 Jul 2007 13:32:11 -0500, John Griessen wrote: > I also like the convention of crossing wires like: > > >| >| > ---o-o- > | > | > If pins are involved, a simple three wire junction currently looks ambiguous too. The correctly connect

Re: gEDA-user: wishful thinking from a user point of view (3)

2007-07-04 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
On Mon, 02 Jul 2007 13:10:36 +, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: > sometimes I want to break connections on move of a symbol or selection. > I wish, there was a modifier to the move short cut that would do the > trick. How about [shift-m] and [shift] while the mouse moves? Just discovered the option "

Re: gEDA-user: is gEDA a good choice for designers?

2007-07-04 Thread Steve Meier
Igor, Care to demonstrate, Show me the symbols that you would use for an altera *EP2S130F1020 that has say a 32 bit bus, a samsung K7R643682M, a pair of analog devices AD9480ASUZ, a micron MT48LC4M32B2B5, a spansion S29GL256N and on and on and on. one could make one large monolicic symbol that i

gEDA-user: Is there a way to drag select within a poly in PCB?

2007-07-04 Thread Ben Jackson
If I'm working "over" a polygon or polygons and I want to drag select, is there any way to do that short of starting the drag outside the polys? I suppose I could move the polys to another grouped layer and then turn them off, but I'd rather just be able to 'lock polygons' and avoid them for all so