Re: gEDA-user: Text on silkscreen

2007-09-12 Thread andrewm
DJ Delorie wrote: >> However if I turn of the silk screen completely (which I would prefer) I >> can not drag/move components. >> >> Is this normal behavior ? >> > > Yes. What I'd do is set the minimum silk to 0.1, and reduce the sizes > of the text so that it *does* fit on your board. Then

Re: gEDA-user: buzzing board

2007-09-12 Thread andrewm
DJ Delorie wrote: >> A lot of switching power supplies have a low-current mode where they >> don't switch at the full rate. >> > > It's switching at 150KHz (it's normal rate), about 25% duty cycle. > > I tried adding a 68 ohm resistor on the 3.3v bus, no change. > > > _

Re: gEDA-user: buzzing board

2007-09-12 Thread DJ Delorie
> A lot of switching power supplies have a low-current mode where they > don't switch at the full rate. It's switching at 150KHz (it's normal rate), about 25% duty cycle. I tried adding a 68 ohm resistor on the 3.3v bus, no change. ___ geda-user mail

Re: gEDA-user: buzzing board

2007-09-12 Thread DJ Delorie
>True. :-( You might be able to temporarily shield that inductor, > but that's a shot in the dark. The only thing I can think of is to remove the input diode for the switcher (to power it down) and feed it 3.3 from an LDO through the test point, and see if that makes a difference. I do *not*

Re: gEDA-user: buzzing board

2007-09-12 Thread Larry Doolittle
DJ - On Thu, Sep 13, 2007 at 12:34:38AM -0400, DJ Delorie wrote: > It's really hard to tell which part is doing it, just from listening. > The sound may be a combination of a high pitch whine and a 100hz buzz > (the oled is 100hz). > > I *think* the sound may be coming from the switching power su

Re: gEDA-user: buzzing board

2007-09-12 Thread DJ Delorie
> Get an electret mic running off a battery on one scope lead Circuit? I tried the mic+scope trick, but nothing came out of it, so I figured it needed some biasing. > Probe around with other scope lead to see what is in sync with it > just to make sure you are looking at the right part of the c

Re: gEDA-user: buzzing board

2007-09-12 Thread Dave McGuire
On Sep 13, 2007, at 12:55 AM, DJ Delorie wrote: >>Is it convenient to try putting an choke in series with the OLED's >> power supply line, with the OLED's bypass capacitor on the OLED side >> of the choke? > > Hmmm... 100uH power inductor, no change. Crap. :-( >>I've only used those t

Re: gEDA-user: Text on silkscreen

2007-09-12 Thread DJ Delorie
> However if I turn of the silk screen completely (which I would prefer) I > can not drag/move components. > > Is this normal behavior ? Yes. What I'd do is set the minimum silk to 0.1, and reduce the sizes of the text so that it *does* fit on your board. Then, when you make the board, just t

Re: gEDA-user: buzzing board

2007-09-12 Thread Dave McGuire
On Sep 13, 2007, at 1:00 AM, andrewm wrote: >> 1. How do you find out where such a noise is coming from, when >>everything is so close together? Neither a stethoscope nor a >> straw >>were helpful. >> >> > Get an electret mic running off a battery on one scope lead > > Probe around with

Re: gEDA-user: buzzing board

2007-09-12 Thread DJ Delorie
>Is it convenient to try putting an choke in series with the OLED's > power supply line, with the OLED's bypass capacitor on the OLED side > of the choke? Hmmm... 100uH power inductor, no change. >I've only used those two methods, aside from probing around with > an oscilloscope to

Re: gEDA-user: buzzing board

2007-09-12 Thread andrewm
DJ Delorie wrote: > 1. How do you find out where such a noise is coming from, when >everything is so close together? Neither a stethoscope nor a straw >were helpful. > > Get an electret mic running off a battery on one scope lead Probe around with other scope lead to see what is in syn

gEDA-user: Text on silkscreen

2007-09-12 Thread andrewm
My brain is getting a bit fried at the moment with new software overload. I am having an issue with silk screens on PCB. I can not turn off the silk screen legend (only switch between footprint refdes and value) and I also can not delete the text on the silk screen. I am making a board that is

Re: gEDA-user: buzzing board

2007-09-12 Thread Dave McGuire
On Sep 13, 2007, at 12:34 AM, DJ Delorie wrote: > Ok, help me out with this one. > > The PCB for my alarm clock buzzes. > > It's really hard to tell which part is doing it, just from listening. > > The sound may be a combination of a high pitch whine and a 100hz buzz > (the oled is 100hz). > > The

gEDA-user: buzzing board

2007-09-12 Thread DJ Delorie
Ok, help me out with this one. The PCB for my alarm clock buzzes. It's really hard to tell which part is doing it, just from listening. The sound may be a combination of a high pitch whine and a 100hz buzz (the oled is 100hz). The buzzing is related to what's displayed on the OLED; the +12v to

gEDA-user: pcb-20070912

2007-09-12 Thread Dan McMahill
20070912 This release represents nearly 200 commits and as such this summary clearly is not complete. See the ChangeLog file for the complete list of changes. - Many many bug fixes. Too many to list. - Added keystone, C&a

gEDA-user: CuCl comments from a user - was - Re: PCM making methods - was - Re: alarm clock update

2007-09-12 Thread andrewm
Tools, I use a car battery hygrometer for measuring density. The car battery hygrometers do not cover the full range of acceptable densities for etching but does cover the optimum. For acid measurements I do periodically titrate using the method given by Adam in his page. Most of the time I

Re: gEDA-user: PCM making methods - was - Re: alarm clock update

2007-09-12 Thread Christoph Lechner
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 John Griessen wrote: > Hmm "recommend optimum specific gravity to be between 1.240 to 1.330" > > I wonder if the wine gravity gauge I have has that range AFAIK the density of ethanol is below 1g/cm^3 :) I'd prefer a hydrometer as used when m

Re: gEDA-user: PCM making methods - was - Re: alarm clock update

2007-09-12 Thread John Griessen
>> Daniel Sandström wrote: > >>> http://members.optusnet.com.au/~eseychell/PCB/etching_CuCl/index.html >> The first one only contains B&W pictures, so the second one is much >> better, as color matters :) from etching_CuCl/index.html: the solution effectively just grows as it consumes four ingre

Re: gEDA-user: PCM making methods - was - Re: alarm clock update

2007-09-12 Thread John Griessen
Here are some photos of H2O2/CuCl2/HCl in action at 105 degF: http://shop.cottagematic.com/elab/etch-midway-5mins.jpg http://shop.cottagematic.com/elab/etch-done.jpg http://shop.cottagematic.com/elab/etch-tank-depleted-sm.jpg John G > Daniel Sandström wrote: >> http://members.optusnet.com.au/~

Re: gEDA-user: PCM making methods - was - Re: alarm clock update

2007-09-12 Thread John Griessen
Christoph Lechner wrote: > So you simply mix a HCl/H2O2 etchant the usual way. When you begin to > use the etchant, it's bluish. No. Yellow-green for full etching strength. After some time (and some PCBs) it becomes > green. Dark green, and when loaded with copper, black. So when it's green

Re: gEDA-user: PCM making methods - was - Re: alarm clock update

2007-09-12 Thread Christoph Lechner
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Daniel Sandström wrote: >> Do you have any links about CuCl? >> > > This looks very interesting, so I did a bit of googling and these links > seems to deal with most aspects: > > http://www.xertech.net/Tech/CuCl_ech.html > http://members.optusnet.com

Re: gEDA-user: PCM making methods - was - Re: alarm clock update

2007-09-12 Thread Daniel Sandström
> > Do you have any links about CuCl? > This looks very interesting, so I did a bit of googling and these links seems to deal with most aspects: http://www.xertech.net/Tech/CuCl_ech.html http://members.optusnet.com.au/~eseychell/PCB/etching_CuCl/index.html ___

Re: gEDA-user: PCM making methods - was - Re: alarm clock update

2007-09-12 Thread Christoph Lechner
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 andrewm wrote: > If you let the HCl H2O2 just keep going to emerald green you will get > CuCl etchant. You never again need > to add H2O2 and can regenrate it by bubbling air through it. That CuCl story sounds very interesting. To be quite curious (a

Re: gEDA-user: PCM making methods - was - Re: alarm clock update

2007-09-12 Thread John Griessen
andrewm wrote: > John Griessen wrote: >> I'm liking the transparency and low hassle and low toxicity of HCl/H2O2, > I have been using CuCl for a bit over a year now and all I ever need to > do is measure the acid levels and > density and then top up with HCl or water to keep it in spec. > > Wil

Re: gEDA-user: wrong pinout lm7912 symbol

2007-09-12 Thread gene
> There are also LM78Lxx that comes in TO92 (most popular), TO39, SO8, SOT89 > ... , each with different pinning! > thanks for the tip - I actually needed a small package version of the 5volt version but didn't locate one! gene ___ geda-user mai

Re: gEDA-user: wrong pinout lm7912 symbol

2007-09-12 Thread Wojciech Kazubski
> On Tue, 2007-09-11 at 13:59 -0400, Ales Hvezda wrote: > > > > > > If someone thinks the attached symbol is ok, I'm pushing it to the repo. > > > > > > > How do you know that this pinout is correct? What other packages does > > an lm7912 come in other than TO-220? There isn't a footprint= > > a

Re: gEDA-user: wrong pinout lm7912 symbol

2007-09-12 Thread Christian Treldal
If someone are about to fix these regulators in the distro, perhaps it vas an idea to drop the net=GND:2 for the 78xx & 79xx. Reason: One are free to put the gnd pin on top of a couple of 1N4148's to raise the output voltage. tir, 11 09 2007 kl. 07:21 +0200, skrev Bert Timmerman: > T 1600 1100