Re: gEDA-user: can't close the preference dialog

2007-10-17 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
On Wed, 17 Oct 2007 11:45:32 -0700, Chris Albertson wrote: > To reproduce the error. First try and close the window by clicking > on the "close" button in the window manager. (in the iMac, this is the > read button) After I do this then all further input to the dialog box > gives the assertion f

Re: gEDA-user: sloppy rupper band mode

2007-10-17 Thread Ben Jackson
On Wed, Oct 17, 2007 at 03:26:23PM -0700, joeft wrote: > Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: > >However, rubber band mode almost invariably chooses a third mode: > >c) All three segments stretch. > > > >This results in > > > >/|\ > > / | \ > > / | \ > > / | \ > >/1 2| 3\ > > > >This is rarely

Re: gEDA-user: sloppy rupper band mode

2007-10-17 Thread joeft
Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: >Rubber band mode is (still) much too sloppy about the decision which >segment endpoints to move. > >Imagine a short segment between longer ones like I constantly get because >of the metric/imperial nuisance. Thes almost never rubber move in a >decent way. Suppose a tra

Re: gEDA-user: some refdes invisible after load layout data

2007-10-17 Thread Ben Jackson
On Wed, Oct 17, 2007 at 06:58:11PM +, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: > > After I loaded the layout data of some additional footprints produced by > gsch2pcb, some (not all) refdeses got invisible. I just noticed that over the weekend. I don't remember it happening before... -- Ben Jackson AD7GD

Re: gEDA-user: Feature requests printout and export

2007-10-17 Thread Bert Timmerman
Hi DJ, I understand it's supposed to be common. Notice the difference between the filenames "preference" and "settings" ;-) Kind regards, Bert Timmerman. On Wed, 2007-10-17 at 16:04 -0400, DJ Delorie wrote: > > With the gtk-hid-gui there is a ~/.pcb/preferences file. > > The ~/.pcb/settings

Re: gEDA-user: Feature requests printout and export

2007-10-17 Thread DJ Delorie
> With the gtk-hid-gui there is a ~/.pcb/preferences file. The ~/.pcb/settings is not in a hid; it's common to everything. It's supposed to work for scripting, too, for example. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/

Re: gEDA-user: no "lock text" and "text only" in menu of GTK-HID

2007-10-17 Thread DJ Delorie
> I noticed, the menu rc files for lesstif and for GTK HID are pretty > similar. Why not use the same file for both HIDs. Because the layout is different for the two GUIs. One follows the Gtk layout rules, the other follows (or is supposed to follow) the Motif layout rules. ___

Re: gEDA-user: Feature requests printout and export

2007-10-17 Thread Bert Timmerman
Hi DJ, With the gtk-hid-gui there is a ~/.pcb/preferences file. Appending "Media = A4" gives no result for the ps-hid (it remains on the "Letter" format). Reading back the ~/.pcb/preferences gives that the appended ("media = A4") line is removed. Kind regards, Bert Timmerman. On Wed, 2007-10-

gEDA-user: no "lock text" and "text only" in menu of GTK-HID

2007-10-17 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
Please include "lock text" and "text only" in the settings menu of GTK- HID. Currently, it is possible to lock the text with the lesstif-HID only. If the layout is opened with GTK-HID there is no way to unlock the text. I provided a (rather trivial) patch in a bug report some months ago. I noti

Re: gEDA-user: tab key missing in list of key bindings

2007-10-17 Thread Bert Timmerman
Hi, It's probably gtk-hid-gui related. The gtk-hid-gui only mentions "Tab Switch view to other side" in Window/Key Reference. With the gtk-hid-gui pcb --action-string 'DumpKeys()' | grep -i tab on the CLI gives: Looking for default_font in . Can't open ./default_font for reading Looking f

gEDA-user: sloppy rupper band mode

2007-10-17 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
Rubber band mode is (still) much too sloppy about the decision which segment endpoints to move. Imagine a short segment between longer ones like I constantly get because of the metric/imperial nuisance. Thes almost never rubber move in a decent way. Suppose a track looks like this: _ 1

gEDA-user: incompatibility warning in README/INSTALL

2007-10-17 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
I noticed, that last years versions of pcb won't load layouts produced with the current snapshot. There is no save-as-old-version. So this is a one-way road. Please add a big, fat warning about this incompatibility issue in README and INSTALL. Maybe a dialog on first start-up would be a good i

Re: gEDA-user: tab key missing in list of key bindings

2007-10-17 Thread DJ Delorie
> The tab key is missing in the list of key bindings. Which list? It shows up in lesstif's: pcb --action-string 'DumpKeys()' | grep -i tab Tab SwapSides(V) Shift-Tab SwapSides(H) Ctrl-Tab SwapSides(R) Ctrl-Shift-Tab SwapSides() __

gEDA-user: tab key missing in list of key bindings

2007-10-17 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
The tab key is missing in the list of key bindings. (Is this list generated dynamically and thus guarantied to reflect the actual key bindings? BTW, I like this list. I use it as a cheat sheet to compensate for the inability to recall that-really-slick-shortcut :-) ---<(kaimartin)>--- -- Kai-

gEDA-user: Unwanted vias on move-to-layer ( m-key )

2007-10-17 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
If I move line segments to other layers pcb tries to keep it connected and automagically places vias. Unfortunately it is a bit too diligent and places vias even when moving lines between silk and a layer that is a member of the component layer group. However, there are no superfluous vias if I

Re: gEDA-user: Feature requests printout and export

2007-10-17 Thread DJ Delorie
> * Where are the defaults for ps output set? I always need a4 rather > than letter, multipage output, etc. --- Feature request: Add a print > related preference page. pcb --help ps options: --psfile Postscript output file --drill-helper Prints a centering tar

gEDA-user: some refdes invisible after load layout data

2007-10-17 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
After I loaded the layout data of some additional footprints produced by gsch2pcb, some (not all) refdeses got invisible. They still printed fine but did not show up on screen. I could make them appear again if I select the affected footprints and left click like I do for move, without actuall

gEDA-user: Feature requests printout and export

2007-10-17 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
I like to draw the outline of the board to lineout layer as recommended by the wiki. * My fab accepts the resulting gerber layer $NAME.group3.gbr which contains the lineout layer. Still, it would be even better to have a self explanatory layer name and get rid of the holes and vias in this p

Re: gEDA-user: can't close the preference dialog

2007-10-17 Thread Chris Albertson
On 10/17/07, Kai-Martin Knaak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Sometimes preference dialog fails to close. If it does and I hit the ok- > button the terminal prints an > error:(pcb:1184): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_widget_destroy: assertion > `GTK_IS_WIDGET (widget)' failed > Most of the

gEDA-user: can't close the preference dialog

2007-10-17 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
Sometimes preference dialog fails to close. If it does and I hit the ok- button the terminal prints an error:(pcb:1184): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_widget_destroy: assertion `GTK_IS_WIDGET (widget)' failed Most of the times the preference dialog closes just fine. GTK2 on my system is

gEDA-user: convert to elements

2007-10-17 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
This is the first in a series of issues I stumbled upon with pcb snapshot 20070912. Most of them have been present before, some may be new. I like to create my footprints with pcb. Consequently, I'd like to access each and every feature through the GUI. There are some more complex details that

Re: gEDA-user: pcb CVS experience

2007-10-17 Thread Peter Clifton
On Wed, 2007-10-17 at 17:35 +, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: > On Wed, 17 Oct 2007 18:00:03 +0100, Peter Clifton wrote: > > > They fix most of the bug I found with cross hair movement on the back of > > the board, > > Ok. This was of course one of my complaints. Sudden warping sometimes > made an

Re: gEDA-user: pcb CVS experience

2007-10-17 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
On Wed, 17 Oct 2007 18:00:03 +0100, Peter Clifton wrote: > They fix most of the bug I found with cross hair movement on the back of > the board, Ok. This was of course one of my complaints. Sudden warping sometimes made an edit of the flipped board a real pain. I'll apply your patches later thi

Re: gEDA-user: pcb CVS experience

2007-10-17 Thread Peter Clifton
On Wed, 2007-10-17 at 16:36 +, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: > Two weeks ago I installed the latest CVS snapshot of pcb (20070912). I > was pleased to see quite a few issues closed -- Some of them had been > bugging me for long. This includes: > * broken regexp in select by name dialog. > * polygo

gEDA-user: pcb CVS experience

2007-10-17 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
Two weeks ago I installed the latest CVS snapshot of pcb (20070912). I was pleased to see quite a few issues closed -- Some of them had been bugging me for long. This includes: * broken regexp in select by name dialog. * polygon creation sometimes not working. Thank you for fixing! However, so

Re: gEDA-user: PCB mounting holes for metric screws

2007-10-17 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
On Tue, 16 Oct 2007 21:15:13 +, Michael Sokolov wrote: > But what about the copper annulus? What would be a good copper annulus > for those screw-accommodating holes? None :-) pcb calls these holes "unplated" and produces a separate gerber file for them. See below the footprint I use for M