Re: gEDA-user: Heavy Symbols and such

2007-12-04 Thread Bert Timmerman
Hi Andy, Steve, Dan and all, Some time ago I gave Dan's transistor symbol generator a try and IMHO this is the way to go. For other parts such as opamps, triacs, diodes, caps and resistors this will work too (the bulk of small parts up to 3 or 4 pins). For looking up the right part I think we ne

Re: gEDA-user: Gerbv with OpenGL

2007-12-04 Thread Dave McGuire
On Dec 2, 2007, at 7:40 PM, Peter Clifton wrote: > This is getting less "useful", but more pretty.. > > http://www2.eng.cam.ac.uk/~pcjc2/geda/gerbv_GL.png > > This uses Cairo to render into a memory buffer, and then we use > that on > a GL context created with GtkGLExt. This allows 3D perspective

Re: gEDA-user: Pads do not clear polygons

2007-12-04 Thread Ben Jackson
On Tue, Dec 04, 2007 at 09:21:29AM -0500, John Luciani wrote: > Using my ancient version of PCB (2005) I created a simple PCB by placing > my DIP-28-300 footprint on a component-side polygon. All of the pads cleared > the polygon. When I load the file in my newer version of PCB (20070221) > non

Re: gEDA-user: Heavy Symbols and such

2007-12-04 Thread Andy Peters
On Dec 4, 2007, at 8:23 PM, Steve Meier wrote: > What is the deffinition of a heavy symbol? And secondly why put a data > base behind one? I have been pondering this from several levels. To me, a "heavy symbol" (or, in the parlance of other EDA packages, a "component") is one that includes foot

Re: gEDA-user: Heavy Symbols and such

2007-12-04 Thread Steve Meier
What is the deffinition of a heavy symbol? And secondly why put a data base behind one? I have been pondering this from several levels. One level is about how heavy large components have become and the tasks that are used in building a working programed printed circuit board. Take a large fpga th

Re: gEDA-user: Heavy Symbols and such

2007-12-04 Thread Dan McMahill
Steve Meier wrote: > I am becomming more and more a proponent of heavy symbols or even a data > base then can generate heavy symbols. One of the really nice things > about geda is its tollerent or flexible and that heavy symbols could > easily be implemented. So the question is... is there enough s

Re: gEDA-user: Heavy Symbols and such

2007-12-04 Thread John Griessen
Randall Nortman wrote: > I've been noticing this whole heavy vs. light debate for a while, but > not really following it. A heavy symbol is something that is fully > specified, including footprint, right? Yes, with implementation details that help you check as you go towards building it. Stev

Re: gEDA-user: Heavy Symbols and such

2007-12-04 Thread DJ Delorie
How? My initial thought is something that builds a heavy library from a light one: Input: light/*.sym light/*.fp mapping table: sym | value | device | pinmap | newsym | other-attrs fp | value | device | pinmap | newfp | other-attrs Output: heavy/*.sym heavy/*.fp We need t

Re: gEDA-user: Heavy Symbols and such

2007-12-04 Thread Randall Nortman
On Tue, Dec 04, 2007 at 06:36:45PM -0800, Steve Meier wrote: > I am becomming more and more a proponent of heavy symbols or even a data > base then can generate heavy symbols. One of the really nice things > about geda is its tollerent or flexible and that heavy symbols could > easily be implemente

Re: gEDA-user: Heavy Symbols and such

2007-12-04 Thread Steve Meier
Part of the reason I ask this is that as I complete my work on a new library, netlister et al. I am thinking that beyond having a hierarchical schematic I would like to have symbols that can have files such as verilog, vhdl spice etc includded and that if the netleister could translate a schematic

gEDA-user: Heavy Symbols and such

2007-12-04 Thread Steve Meier
I am becomming more and more a proponent of heavy symbols or even a data base then can generate heavy symbols. One of the really nice things about geda is its tollerent or flexible and that heavy symbols could easily be implemented. So the question is... is there enough support in the geda communit

Re: gEDA-user: Symbols and footprints and stuff, oh my

2007-12-04 Thread Martin Maney
On Tue, Dec 04, 2007 at 06:49:10PM -0500, Dan McMahill wrote: > This is a known problem in the current flow. I think the right answer here As you'll see, I don't disagree, basically, about the long-term answer. Are there any shorter-term solutions planned, or is that the realm of a little sed s

Re: gEDA-user: Symbols and footprints and stuff, oh my

2007-12-04 Thread John Griessen
Martin Maney wrote: > So I did a smallish circuit full of discrete transistors and Rs and Cs, > and found usable footprints for all of them, but the pins from the > transistor symbols - npn-2 and pnp-2 - didn't match the numeric pin > names on the footprints. Most gschem and pcb users make a libr

Re: gEDA-user: Symbols and footprints and stuff, oh my

2007-12-04 Thread Dan McMahill
Martin Maney wrote: So I've been fairly happy with these tools (currently using the > packaged stuff from Ubuntu's Gutsy release), but there are a couple > little things I've run into, aside from the peculiar behavior that > arises when one tries to make an oval pin and use it in a ground > plane.

gEDA-user: Symbols and footprints and stuff, oh my

2007-12-04 Thread Martin Maney
So I've been fairly happy with these tools (currently using the packaged stuff from Ubuntu's Gutsy release), but there are a couple little things I've run into, aside from the peculiar behavior that arises when one tries to make an oval pin and use it in a ground plane... So I did a smallish circ

Re: gEDA-user: usb jack footprints

2007-12-04 Thread joeft
David Griffith wrote: >Does anyone have footprints for USB jacks? > > > I see that John has already chimed in, but here's another option: Please also keep in mind the necessity for proper grounding and RFI performance. There are app notes from Intel and Cypress which offer some guidance. (s

Re: gEDA-user: usb jack footprints

2007-12-04 Thread Dave N6NZ
I have a FCI 61729 USB-B -- not much mileage on it, though. -dave David Griffith wrote: > Does anyone have footprints for USB jacks? > ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user

Re: gEDA-user: gEDA-dev: iverilog and Xilinx 8.2

2007-12-04 Thread Stephen Williams
Daniel O'Connor wrote: > I now get.. > [inchoate 9:43] ~/work/fpga/SA >iverilog -y . -y > $XILINX/verilog/src/unisims -y $XILINX/verilog/src/XilinxCoreLib SA_test2.v > /usr/local/Xilinx/verilog/src/unisims/DCM.v:45: syntax error > /usr/local/Xilinx/verilog/src/unisims/DCM.v:45: error: syntax error

Re: gEDA-user: Icarus Verilog Release 0.8.6

2007-12-04 Thread Stephen Williams
Dan McMahill wrote: > Stephen Williams wrote: >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> >> I've made a new release on the Icarus Verilog v0_8-branch git branch. >> This is 0.8.6, which includes various safe fixes and updates to the >> stable release. The source tarball and release n

Re: gEDA-user: Pads do not clear polygons

2007-12-04 Thread DJ Delorie
I don't see anything wrong with your file. It seems that having a pad and a pin at the same location confuses the polygon dicer. Ben? ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user

Re: gEDA-user: usb jack footprints

2007-12-04 Thread DJ Delorie
> Does anyone have footprints for USB jacks? Which size? I have a mini-B... ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user

Re: gEDA-user: Gerbv with OpenGL

2007-12-04 Thread John Griessen
Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: > On Mon, 03 Dec 2007 14:47:03 -0500, evan foss wrote: > >> What about brlcad? It has been in development for decades on Unix and >> now quite a while on Linux. >> http://my.brlcad.org/ the package's primary purpose continues to be the > support of (1) ballistic and (2) ele

gEDA-user: Pads do not clear polygons

2007-12-04 Thread John Luciani
Using my ancient version of PCB (2005) I created a simple PCB by placing my DIP-28-300 footprint on a component-side polygon. All of the pads cleared the polygon. When I load the file in my newer version of PCB (20070221) none of the pads clear the polygon. I have not changed the default config

Re: gEDA-user: usb jack footprints

2007-12-04 Thread John Luciani
On Dec 4, 2007 8:58 AM, David Griffith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Does anyone have footprints for USB jacks? > > -- > David Griffith > [EMAIL PROTECTED] At http://www.luciani.org/geda/pcb/pcb-footprint-list.html I have --- CON_USB_MINI_B__Molex_67503-1020 CON_USB_TYPEB__Keystone_924

gEDA-user: usb jack footprints

2007-12-04 Thread David Griffith
Does anyone have footprints for USB jacks? -- David Griffith [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user