Re: gEDA-user: Shall we use letters (i.e. E, C, B ) for transsitor pin names?

2007-12-16 Thread Steve Meier
Gene Heskett wrote: > On Sunday 16 December 2007, Steve Meier wrote: > >> A "tech" once fixed a board that had a bad dip device. Did he use the >> same part that he pulled out? No he just got one that had the same >> number of pins. >> > > Humm, so you are saying that the odds of his gettin

Re: gEDA-user: Math functions and PLI

2007-12-16 Thread Larry Doolittle
Matt - On Sun, Dec 16, 2007 at 06:19:38PM -0800, Matt Ettus wrote: > I found this package to do sin and cos from PLI: >http://www.chris.spear.net/pli/math.htm > But I can't get it to run with Icarus. I get the following errors > when I compile: Cool. I postponed writing my own long enough t

Re: gEDA-user: [pcb] "first board" docs

2007-12-16 Thread DJ Delorie
> First board: two-pin jumper, resistor, LED. All stock symbols and > footprints, single layer board, no vias. Wow, laying out a board takes a LOT longer when you've got to document and screenshot each mouse event. http://www.delorie.com/pcb/docs/gs/ I've gotten as far as placing the component

Re: gEDA-user: Shall we use letters (i.e. E, C, B ) for transsitor pin names?

2007-12-16 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 16 December 2007, Steve Meier wrote: >A "tech" once fixed a board that had a bad dip device. Did he use the >same part that he pulled out? No he just got one that had the same >number of pins. Humm, so you are saying that the odds of his getting it right were about 1/100,000? Sorry, bu

gEDA-user: Math functions and PLI

2007-12-16 Thread Matt Ettus
I found this package to do sin and cos from PLI: http://www.chris.spear.net/pli/math.htm But I can't get it to run with Icarus. I get the following errors when I compile: [EMAIL PROTECTED] math]$ vvp -M. -mmath math math: no vlog_startup_routines $exp: This task not defined by any modules. I

Re: gEDA-user: Shall we use letters (i.e. E, C, B ) for transsitor pin names?

2007-12-16 Thread Ben Jackson
On Sun, Dec 16, 2007 at 02:13:48PM -0800, Steve Meier wrote: > A "tech" once fixed a board that had a bad dip device. Did he use the > same part that he pulled out? No he just got one that had the same > number of pins. We got a few boards where the contract mfr had mis-loaded their stuffing robot

Re: gEDA-user: Shall we use letters (i.e. E, C, B ) for transsitor pin names?

2007-12-16 Thread Steve Meier
A "tech" once fixed a board that had a bad dip device. Did he use the same part that he pulled out? No he just got one that had the same number of pins. Dan McMahill wrote: > al davis wrote: > > >> It's especially challenging when someone in the stock room mixed >> them in the same bin. >>

Re: gEDA-user: Shall we use letters (i.e. E, C, B ) for transsitor pin names?

2007-12-16 Thread Dan McMahill
al davis wrote: > It's especially challenging when someone in the stock room mixed > them in the same bin. I had a factory build up boards where they put a high speed single channel current feedback amplifier in a spot on my board where the BOM called out for a dual jfet input general purpose

Re: gEDA-user: gsch2pcb update

2007-12-16 Thread Ian Chapman
I have found the problem. My home directory contains the file gafrc which has the line of form (component-library "${HOME}/Artwork/Schematic_sym") this worked well with the default gEDA and PCB that came with Ubuntu Feisty. Once updated to Gutsy and the updated default gEDA and PCB; gsch2pcb fai

Re: gEDA-user: Shall we use letters (i.e. E, C, B ) for transsitor pin names?

2007-12-16 Thread al davis
On Sunday 16 December 2007, Werner Hoch wrote: > A TO-92 footprint can contain a bipolar transistor, thus the > pin names would be B,C,E. or E B C or B E C etc. > If it's a FET the pin names should > be G,S,D. or G D S (sometimes arbitrarily) or D S G etc. > For a 7805 voltage regultater it w

Re: gEDA-user: Shall we use letters (i.e. E, C , B ) for transsitor pin names?

2007-12-16 Thread Werner Hoch
Hi Stefan, On Sonntag, 16. Dezember 2007, Stefan Salewski wrote: > Werner Hoch wrote: > >I'm using BCE as pinnumber attributes as long the footprint of the > >device (transistor) is not defined. Thus it's easy to replace them > > when adding a footprint. > > Hm. Can we not use letters for pinnumbe

Re: gEDA-user: Schematics and layouts' nets thoughts

2007-12-16 Thread Steve Meier
Didier Villevalois wrote: > Hello gEDA users, > > While making scripts to process gschem's schematic files and pcb's > layout files, I bumped into two things that makes me scratching my head. > > Let me ask you whether i should make feature requests... > > Schematics files have nets defined as line

Re: gEDA-user: Shall we use letters (i.e. E, C, B ) for transsitor pin names?

2007-12-16 Thread al davis
On Sunday 16 December 2007, Stefan Salewski wrote: > I have read that we can use single letters like "C", "E", "B" > as pin names -- this makes it simpler to assign the correct > footprint to a symbol. > > On the other hand, default geda/pcb symbols/footprints seems > to use digits. > > What is you

Re: gEDA-user: Shall we use letters (i.e. E, C, B ) for transsitor pin names?

2007-12-16 Thread Steve Meier
First, pin numbers are strings and thus letters can and are used. Frequently bGA's will use leterf for either rows or columns and numbers for the other. Second, what is important between the symbol and the foot print is that they agree on what the pins are called. This brings up the other discuss

gEDA-user: Shall we use letters (i.e. E, C, B ) for transsitor pin names?

2007-12-16 Thread Stefan Salewski
I should have read this before asking, sorry. http://geda.seul.org/wiki/geda:transistor_guide Will read it now. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user

Re: gEDA-user: Shall we use letters (i.e. E, C, B ) for transsitor pin names?

2007-12-16 Thread Stefan Salewski
Werner Hoch wrote: >Hi Stefan, >we have pinlabels and pinnumbers, I guess your speaking about >pinnumbers? Oh sorry -- yes I was speaking of using letters for pinnumbers. >I'm using BCE as pinnumber attributes as long the footprint of the >device (transistor) is not defined. Thus it's easy to

Re: gEDA-user: Schematics and layouts' nets thoughts

2007-12-16 Thread Peter Clifton
On Sun, 2007-12-16 at 11:55 +0100, Didier Villevalois wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hello gEDA users, > > While making scripts to process gschem's schematic files and pcb's > layout files, I bumped into two things that makes me scratching my head. > > Let me ask y

Re: gEDA-user: Shall we use letters (i.e. E, C, B ) for transsitor pin names?

2007-12-16 Thread Werner Hoch
Hi Stefan, we have pinlabels and pinnumbers, I guess your speaking about pinnumbers? On Sonntag, 16. Dezember 2007, Stefan Salewski wrote: > I have read that we can use single letters like "C", "E", "B" as pin > names -- this makes it simpler to assign the correct footprint to a > symbol. > On

gEDA-user: Shall we use letters (i.e. E, C, B ) for transsitor pin names?

2007-12-16 Thread Stefan Salewski
Hello, I have read that we can use single letters like "C", "E", "B" as pin names -- this makes it simpler to assign the correct footprint to a symbol. On the other hand, default geda/pcb symbols/footprints seems to use digits. What is your advice? Is there a fixed correlation between numbers an

gEDA-user: Schematics and layouts' nets thoughts

2007-12-16 Thread Didier Villevalois
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello gEDA users, While making scripts to process gschem's schematic files and pcb's layout files, I bumped into two things that makes me scratching my head. Let me ask you whether i should make feature requests... Schematics files have nets defined