Re: gEDA-user: Updating symbols in PCB

2008-01-28 Thread DJ Delorie
> Is there a way to update the footprint in pcb like you can a > symbol in gschem without removing the old footprint and manually > replacing it? Load the footprint using the library in PCB. Rotate the footprint to match the existing one. Position the new footprint over the old one and sh

gEDA-user: Updating symbols in PCB

2008-01-28 Thread Traylor Roger
Guys, I have a board in layout in pcb. I've updated a footprint external to pcb with vi. Is there a way to update the footprint in pcb like you can a symbol in gschem without removing the old footprint and manually replacing it? I'm still working on my first board in geda. Thank

Re: gEDA-user: Pins/pads questions

2008-01-28 Thread Steve Meier
Make up the pads for your pattern, add the pins add a pad with a zero shadow mask clearence from the first pad to the pin. Give the two pads and the pin the same pin number. Steve Meier Harold D. Skank wrote: > >

Re: gEDA-user: Pins/pads questions

2008-01-28 Thread John Luciani
On Jan 28, 2008 9:21 PM, DJ Delorie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Specifically we desire to have the matrix of pins offset diagonally > > from the matrix of the pads. The pins need to be located > > diagonally between the pad matrix and the question occurs just how > > to interconnect the tw

Re: gEDA-user: Pins/pads questions

2008-01-28 Thread DJ Delorie
> We are trying to work out details associated with separated pins > and pads on a BGA footprint. Pins? Or vias? Or pins in the element, used as vias? > Specifically we desire to have the matrix of pins offset diagonally > from the matrix of the pads. The pins need to be located > diagon

gEDA-user: Pins/pads questions

2008-01-28 Thread Harold D. Skank
DJ (or whomsoever),

Re: gEDA-user: Attributes in pcb footprint files -- is this a new feature?

2008-01-28 Thread a r
On Jan 28, 2008 10:49 PM, DJ Delorie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Borrowing from ASIC flow: width/length, number of pins. > > Hmmm... elements should already know this; they have a bounding box > and they can just count their pins. They don't need to know it in a general case. This is called a

Re: gEDA-user: Attributes in pcb footprint files -- is this a new feature?

2008-01-28 Thread DJ Delorie
> Is there anything in the GUI to take advantage of this bright new > feature? Or is it a pure ascii-edit thingy right now? There is nothing in PCB that does *anything* with attributes, other than to preserve them. Attributes are not for pcb itself, they are for (as I explained) third party mod

Re: gEDA-user: Attributes in pcb footprint files -- is this a new feature?

2008-01-28 Thread Kai-Martin
On 01/28/2008 11:49:58 PM, DJ Delorie wrote: > But in general, "put whatever you want in there". Ok. Is there anything in the GUI to take advantage of this bright new feature? Or is it a pure ascii-edit thingy right now? ---<(kaimartin)>--- ___

Re: gEDA-user: Attributes in pcb footprint files -- is this a new feature?

2008-01-28 Thread DJ Delorie
> Borrowing from ASIC flow: width/length, number of pins. Hmmm... elements should already know this; they have a bounding box and they can just count their pins. But in general, "put whatever you want in there". It's for expansion, third party scripts, etc. We did suggest, when we were talking

Re: gEDA-user: Attributes in pcb footprint files -- is this a new feature?

2008-01-28 Thread a r
On Jan 28, 2008 6:07 PM, DJ Delorie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > What can these attributes be used for? > > Board level: > > * copyright and authorship notices > * global state for plug-ins > * DRC rules, post-processing settings, etc. > * historical or tracking info (rcs tags?) > > Element lev

Re: gEDA-user: recent pcb menu fix

2008-01-28 Thread John Griessen
Dan McMahill wrote: > DJ Delorie wrote: >>> Now, what was CheckWhen intended to do and where should it go? >> Probably should be replaced with the active= stuff. See how the grid >> menus work. > > fixed. Thanks y'all. Seems like the pcb-menu.res file was a super SW architecture choice. John G

Re: gEDA-user: recent pcb menu fix

2008-01-28 Thread Dan McMahill
DJ Delorie wrote: >> Now, what was CheckWhen intended to do and where should it go? > > Probably should be replaced with the active= stuff. See how the grid > menus work. fixed. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org

Re: gEDA-user: recent pcb menu fix

2008-01-28 Thread DJ Delorie
> Now, what was CheckWhen intended to do and where should it go? Probably should be replaced with the active= stuff. See how the grid menus work. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-us

gEDA-user: recent pcb menu fix

2008-01-28 Thread John Griessen
I am making some carbon ink overprinted traces with pcb, so I wanted to use several buffers of via and trace combinations that don't quite deserve to be footprints. I couldn't get more than one buffer to be saved. An error message was: no action CheckWhen(buffer, 1) or no action CheckWhen(bu

Re: gEDA-user: Attributes in pcb footprint files -- is this a new feature?

2008-01-28 Thread DJ Delorie
> What can these attributes be used for? Board level: * copyright and authorship notices * global state for plug-ins * DRC rules, post-processing settings, etc. * historical or tracking info (rcs tags?) Element level: All that plus... * origin * rotation * location of documentation Etc. I.e.

Re: gEDA-user: Layers in PCB

2008-01-28 Thread DJ Delorie
> Is there a way to configure, what layers are actually printed during export? It should only print layers with stuff on them (although both outside layers are always drawn). Otherwise, just delete layers you aren't using. ___ geda-user mailing list

Re: gEDA-user: attributes: net and netname

2008-01-28 Thread Steve Meier
On large devices I typically expose one pin for each required voltage and then have a net=Vcci:G34, D27, D28 ... etc This way the schematic shows where the device is getting each voltage supply from without having to show large numbers of pins. DJ proposed some time back allowing pins to have mul

Re: gEDA-user: attributes: net and netname

2008-01-28 Thread John Doty
On Jan 28, 2008, at 7:27 AM, Ian Chapman wrote: > I do use the net attribute with > off-page-connections that is with the IO out/in symbol I set net to > sig-name:1 (invisible) and value to sig-name (visable). I wonder > what the > significance is of the ":1" tagged onto the end of the net val

Re: gEDA-user: attributes: net and netname

2008-01-28 Thread Ian Chapman
Hi, I never set net and netname to any value, I just leave them the way they are in the symbol. I do use the net attribute with off-page-connections that is with the IO out/in symbol I set net to sig-name:1 (invisible) and value to sig-name (visable). I wonder what the significance is of t

Re: gEDA-user: Attributes in pcb footprint files -- is this a new feature?

2008-01-28 Thread John Luciani
On Jan 28, 2008 7:23 AM, Kai-Martin Knaak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, 26 Jan 2008 13:37:44 -0500, DJ Delorie wrote: > > >> "for newer pcbs, a board-global Attribute() entry" > > What can these attributes be used for? > A copyright notice springs to mind. What else? keepout areas (includin

Re: gEDA-user: Attributes in pcb footprint files -- is this a new feature?

2008-01-28 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
On Sat, 26 Jan 2008 13:37:44 -0500, DJ Delorie wrote: >> "for newer pcbs, a board-global Attribute() entry" What can these attributes be used for? A copyright notice springs to mind. What else? ---<(kaimartin)>--- -- Kai-Martin Knaak tel: +49-511-762-2895 Univer

Re: gEDA-user: Layers in PCB

2008-01-28 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
On Sat, 26 Jan 2008 20:09:59 -0500, DJ Delorie wrote: > Export instead of print. Choose the postscript (ps) option. You can > convert that to PDF. Is there a way to configure, what layers are actually printed during export? ---<(kaimartin)>--- -- Kai-Martin Knaak