Re: gEDA-user: Solder Jumpers

2008-03-25 Thread John Luciani
On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 9:47 PM, Dan McMahill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > John Luciani wrote: > > On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 7:36 PM, Steven Michalske <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > >> jcl, > >> > >> I have made this the size of 0603 parts so that i can solder ball > >> them, or stuff them

Re: gEDA-user: Solder Jumpers

2008-03-25 Thread DJ Delorie
> you know, solder bridgable gap footprints are a candidate for a > keepout layer to keep you from putting a trace through the gap. Of > course you may just want to make the gap narrow enough that you'd > have drc violations by putting a trace there. I think that should wait until we have more r

Re: gEDA-user: Solder Jumpers

2008-03-25 Thread Dan McMahill
John Luciani wrote: > On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 7:36 PM, Steven Michalske <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> jcl, >> >> I have made this the size of 0603 parts so that i can solder ball >> them, or stuff them with an 0603 resistor. >> >> Could we make a copper shorted version as well? >> It allows for

Re: gEDA-user: Adding Auto-thermals Was:Re: Thanks a million, and few small questions for a new user

2008-03-25 Thread Jesse Gordon
DJ Delorie wrote: > It's the "auto-added thermals" part that's tricky - there's no flag to > say that a thermal is auto-added. > > But auto-redoing *all* auto-thermals might work, yes. > > If you remove *all* the thermals, you lose track of which net each > polygon is supposed to connect to. I sup

Re: gEDA-user: Adding Auto-thermals Was:Re: Thanks a million, and few small questions for a new user

2008-03-25 Thread DJ Delorie
It's the "auto-added thermals" part that's tricky - there's no flag to say that a thermal is auto-added. But auto-redoing *all* auto-thermals might work, yes. If you remove *all* the thermals, you lose track of which net each polygon is supposed to connect to. I suppose you could store that inf

Re: gEDA-user: Adding Auto-thermals Was:Re: Thanks a million, and few small questions for a new user

2008-03-25 Thread Jesse Gordon
DJ Delorie wrote: > Ah. The thermals themselves don't have such flags; the vias would, > but you wouldn't want to flag a hand-placed via just because it has an > automatic thermal on it. > > I don't know how hard it would be to add such a flag. > > Now, if we could auto-remove thermals as the desi

Re: gEDA-user: Adding Auto-thermals Was:Re: Thanks a million, and few small questions for a new user

2008-03-25 Thread DJ Delorie
> Sorry for the mis-phrasing, when a thermal is auto added, please set > the auto placed flag indicating that it was auto placed. Ah. The thermals themselves don't have such flags; the vias would, but you wouldn't want to flag a hand-placed via just because it has an automatic thermal on it.

Re: gEDA-user: Solder Jumpers

2008-03-25 Thread John Luciani
On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 7:36 PM, Steven Michalske <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > jcl, > > I have made this the size of 0603 parts so that i can solder ball > them, or stuff them with an 0603 resistor. > > Could we make a copper shorted version as well? > It allows for the reverse of the idea, by

Re: gEDA-user: Solder Jumpers

2008-03-25 Thread John Luciani
On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 7:38 PM, DJ Delorie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > The footprint in the lower right looks quite good. > > > > Thanks. > > You need a .pcb, of figured it out already? I am all set. Thanks for your help (* jcl *) -- http://www.luciani.org _

Re: gEDA-user: Solder Jumpers

2008-03-25 Thread DJ Delorie
> The footprint in the lower right looks quite good. > > Thanks. You need a .pcb, of figured it out already? ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user

Re: gEDA-user: Adding Auto-thermals Was:Re: Thanks a million, and few small questions for a new user

2008-03-25 Thread Steven Michalske
Sorry for the mis-phrasing, when a thermal is auto added, please set the auto placed flag indicating that it was auto placed. Hardkrash On Mar 25, 2008, at 4:31 PM, DJ Delorie wrote: > >> I would also add a flag here to say is the via was auto placed or >> manually placed. > > Actually, it ha

Re: gEDA-user: Solder Jumpers

2008-03-25 Thread John Luciani
On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 7:28 PM, DJ Delorie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > You can combine four rounded pads and a square one to form each half > of these: > > http://www.delorie.com/pcb/jumpers.png > > (the tiny one is one rounded + one square, for reference) The footprint in the lower right

Re: gEDA-user: Solder Jumpers

2008-03-25 Thread Steven Michalske
jcl, I have made this the size of 0603 parts so that i can solder ball them, or stuff them with an 0603 resistor. Could we make a copper shorted version as well? It allows for the reverse of the idea, by default it is connects two nets that an exacto can cut out. Hardkrash On Mar 25, 2008,

Re: gEDA-user: Adding Auto-thermals Was:Re: Thanks a million, and few small questions for a new user

2008-03-25 Thread DJ Delorie
> I would also add a flag here to say is the via was auto placed or > manually placed. Actually, it has a LOT of flags, including that one. I'm only mentioning the ones that are relevent to figuring out thermals. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-use

Re: gEDA-user: Adding Auto-thermals Was:Re: Thanks a million, and few small questions for a new user

2008-03-25 Thread Steven Michalske
On Mar 25, 2008, at 10:06 AM, DJ Delorie wrote: > >> Did you mean auto-thermal and THERMAL flag, or do each via and pin >> have a VIA flag which indicates whether it needs a thermal? > > Each pin/via has a set of flags, one for each layer, that says if it > should have a thermal, and what type. >

Re: gEDA-user: Solder Jumpers

2008-03-25 Thread DJ Delorie
You can combine four rounded pads and a square one to form each half of these: http://www.delorie.com/pcb/jumpers.png (the tiny one is one rounded + one square, for reference) ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cg

Re: gEDA-user: Solder Jumpers

2008-03-25 Thread John Luciani
On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 7:08 PM, Kai-Martin Knaak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 25 Mar 2008 18:07:19 -0400, John Luciani wrote: > > > I am looking for the dimensions of the pads and gaps or some > > recommendations. > > You might look at JMP_SMD.fp in my section of gedasymbols. These jump

Re: gEDA-user: Solder Jumpers

2008-03-25 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
On Tue, 25 Mar 2008 18:07:19 -0400, John Luciani wrote: > I am looking for the dimensions of the pads and gaps or some > recommendations. You might look at JMP_SMD.fp in my section of gedasymbols. These jumpers have been proven to work with my last couple of boards. The gap is narrow enough to

Re: gEDA-user: Solder Jumpers

2008-03-25 Thread DJ Delorie
> I am hoping to build two footprints. I was thinking of a range of gap sizes, so you could see how well they bridge. > Is there a secret PCB file format change that would permit > the creation of semi-circular pads and that also implements > that PCB datum request? No, no changes like that sin

Re: gEDA-user: Solder Jumpers

2008-03-25 Thread John Luciani
On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 6:32 PM, DJ Delorie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > If I can't find out some actual dimensions that people have used or > > seen then it's down to the cellar ;-) > > If you want a test board, I can probably etch one tomorrow and mail it > to you. Just send me a .pcb fi

Re: gEDA-user: Solder Jumpers

2008-03-25 Thread DJ Delorie
> If I can't find out some actual dimensions that people have used or > seen then it's down to the cellar ;-) If you want a test board, I can probably etch one tomorrow and mail it to you. Just send me a .pcb file. Or a postscript file, if you want to try semicircles also. ___

Re: gEDA-user: Solder Jumpers

2008-03-25 Thread Ben Jackson
On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 06:27:40PM -0400, John Luciani wrote: > boards are built by novices I wanted to find the size jumper that they > typically use. The round pad with split "affords" bridging. Two square pads don't quite have the same effect. Too bad PCB can't make the semi-circular pads! h

Re: gEDA-user: Solder Jumpers

2008-03-25 Thread John Luciani
On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 6:12 PM, Ben Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 06:07:19PM -0400, John Luciani wrote: > > gap in between. The three pad jumper consists of a half circle on each > > end with a rectangular pad in between. > > I'm sure you have a reason for using s

Re: gEDA-user: Solder Jumpers

2008-03-25 Thread Ben Jackson
On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 06:07:19PM -0400, John Luciani wrote: > gap in between. The three pad jumper consists of a half circle on each > end with a rectangular pad in between. I'm sure you have a reason for using special pads, but I'd just use some SMT resistor footprint. I've made 3-pad strappin

gEDA-user: Solder Jumpers

2008-03-25 Thread John Luciani
In Eagle there are a couple of solder-jumper footprints. To jumper between pads you create a solder bridge. The two pad jumper looks like two half circles with a gap in between. The three pad jumper consists of a half circle on each end with a rectangular pad in between. I am looking for the dimen

Re: gEDA-user: Adding Auto-thermals Was:Re: Thanks a million, and few small questions for a new user

2008-03-25 Thread Ben Jackson
On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 01:06:21PM -0400, DJ Delorie wrote: > > In addition, apparently, each rat line has a flag that says if it can > be implemented as a thermal to a polygon on some layer. Every object has flags from a common set. Pins and vias are the same kind of object (hole in the board w

Re: gEDA-user: Adding Auto-thermals Was:Re: Thanks a million, and few small questions for a new user

2008-03-25 Thread DJ Delorie
> Got it! Thanks! When I briefly tried putting a polygon over existing > traces, I thought it connected them all together. I didn't know that > polygons automatically kept away from traces, Each trace has a flag that says if it connects to polygons or not. Lots of flags! Read const.h or the doc

Re: gEDA-user: Adding Auto-thermals Was:Re: Thanks a million, and few small questions for a new user

2008-03-25 Thread Jesse Gordon
DJ Delorie wrote: > Consider a ground plane on the back of a two-layer board. It's a big > rectangle. However, traces on the back may "cut out" part of the > rectangle to leave a bare area. You cannot use a thermal to connect > to the ground plane here, but if you just look at the big rectangl

Re: gEDA-user: Adding Auto-thermals Was:Re: Thanks a million, and few small questions for a new user

2008-03-25 Thread DJ Delorie
> Did you mean auto-thermal and THERMAL flag, or do each via and pin > have a VIA flag which indicates whether it needs a thermal? Each pin/via has a set of flags, one for each layer, that says if it should have a thermal, and what type. In addition, apparently, each rat line has a flag that say

Re: gEDA-user: Iverilog synthesis problems

2008-03-25 Thread Stephen Williams
Darren Stevens wrote: > Hello All, > > I've been trying to use a Digilent XLA development board fitted with a Xilinx > spartan XCS10 fitted. > > Since the Xilinx free tools for this chip don't include a synthesis tool I've > been trying to use Iverilog, with some success. I'm surprised by that.

gEDA-user: Adding Auto-thermals Was:Re: Thanks a million, and few small questions for a new user

2008-03-25 Thread Jesse Gordon
Ben Jackson wrote: On Sun, Mar 23, 2008 at 08:50:12PM -0700, Jesse Gordon wrote: My goal is to make it so that instead of just highlighting a pin/via with a golden yellow ring (meaning that it needs a thermal), instead of that, it would just turns on the thermal. I just added that co

Re: gEDA-user: SuSE rpms (was: gEDA/gaf stable version 1.4.0-20080127 released!)

2008-03-25 Thread Peter Clifton
On Tue, 2008-03-25 at 13:03 +0100, Werner Hoch wrote: > On Dienstag, 25. März 2008, Peter Clifton wrote: > > On Tue, 2008-03-25 at 10:38 +0100, Werner Hoch wrote: > > > mime type toubleshooting: > > > I've had some hard hours to find out that I had some local mimetype > > > definitions in my home d

Re: gEDA-user: Icarus Verilog: specify path for $readmemh?

2008-03-25 Thread Günter Dannoritzer
Stephen Williams wrote: > Günter Dannoritzer wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I am using the system task $readmemh to init some ROM. Now my question >> is, can I specify for the simulation with Icarus somewhere the path to >> the file I am using with $readmemh? > > I can think of 2 ways: > > You can use $valu

Re: gEDA-user: Icarus Verilog: specify path for $readmemh?

2008-03-25 Thread Günter Dannoritzer
Mike Jarabek wrote: > Hi, > > You could try using a relative path, that is: > > Replace "Romfile.txt" with "../sim/Romfile.txt" > > This might get you past the problem, at the expense of forcing the directory > structure to always have the file in the 'sim' directory. I think the Xilinx > to

Re: gEDA-user: SuSE rpms (was: gEDA/gaf stable ver sion 1.4.0-20080127 released!)

2008-03-25 Thread Werner Hoch
On Dienstag, 25. März 2008, Peter Clifton wrote: > On Tue, 2008-03-25 at 10:38 +0100, Werner Hoch wrote: > > mime type toubleshooting: > > I've had some hard hours to find out that I had some local mimetype > > definitions in my home directory for gschem. Thus the mime types > > worked great in GNO

Re: gEDA-user: SuSE rpms (was: gEDA/gaf stable version 1.4.0-20080127 released!)

2008-03-25 Thread Peter Clifton
On Tue, 2008-03-25 at 10:38 +0100, Werner Hoch wrote: > mime type toubleshooting: > I've had some hard hours to find out that I had some local mimetype > definitions in my home directory for gschem. Thus the mime types worked > great in GNOME but not in the KDE environment. If you don't have the

Re: gEDA-user: SuSE rpms (was: gEDA/gaf stable version 1.4.0-20080127 released!)

2008-03-25 Thread Werner Hoch
Hi Peter and all, sorry for the late response. I've finally tracked down all the menu, desktop and mimetype stuff. I put the description to the wiki: http://geda.seul.org/wiki/geda:suse_rpm_installation On Mittwoch, 30. Januar 2008, Peter Clifton wrote: > On Wed, 2008-01-30 at 20:29 +0100, Wer