Re: gEDA-user: random project idea

2008-03-27 Thread Larry Doolittle
On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 10:29:02PM -0700, Larry Doolittle wrote: > This question has a long history. Perhaps the most notable > discussion is the 173-long thread titled "FPGA openness" in > 2000 in comp.arch.fpga. BTW, I'm particulary pleased with Rickman's post http://groups.google.com/group/

Re: gEDA-user: random project idea

2008-03-27 Thread Larry Doolittle
Jesse - On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 08:28:29PM -0700, Jesse Gordon wrote: > Igor2 wrote: > > If we are at tools, I wonder... Is there an FPGA family that I could use > > without using non-free software at all? > > > I was going to ask that very question. The closest I've come to "free" > was xilin

Re: gEDA-user: random project idea

2008-03-27 Thread Jesse Gordon
Igor2 wrote: > > If we are at tools, I wonder... Is there an FPGA family that I could use > without using non-free software at all? > > I was going to ask that very question. The closest I've come to "free" was xilinx's ISE Impact webpack which of course is only free to use and only free for

Re: gEDA-user: random project idea

2008-03-27 Thread Igor2
On Thu, 27 Mar 2008, Larry Doolittle wrote: >On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 09:28:23PM -0500, John Griessen wrote: >> Larry Doolittle wrote: >> > Self-reconfigurable FPGAs have been promised for years, but aren't >> > ready, and probably never will be. >> I guess that's because the fpga makers seem to

Re: gEDA-user: random project idea

2008-03-27 Thread Larry Doolittle
On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 09:28:23PM -0500, John Griessen wrote: > Larry Doolittle wrote: > > Self-reconfigurable FPGAs have been promised for years, but aren't > > ready, and probably never will be. > I guess that's because the fpga makers seem to not want to let out their > programming details --

Re: gEDA-user: random project idea

2008-03-27 Thread DJ Delorie
Larry Doolittle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Assume 1mm pitch and 5/5 space/trace. Turns out Sierra can do this, for a fee. A 7"x7" 4-layer board, with 5/5 rules and 12 mil holes, costs about $130ea qty5 if you don't mind waiting for it. Of course, that's a $650 investment, and you still have

Re: gEDA-user: gSoC proposals, deadline for student applications is Monday, March 31, 2008.

2008-03-27 Thread John Griessen
Ian Chapman wrote: > I think there is a need or it would be handy to have all versions in > one boxsym and a few flags for low, medium, high and ridiculous pin > counts. By ridiculous I mean you need a magnifying glass to read the > final schematic on letter size (8.5 x 11) and I'm doing th

Re: gEDA-user: gSoC proposals, deadline for student applications is Monday, March 31, 2008.

2008-03-27 Thread DJ Delorie
I think his point was - if you don't submit a proposal to Google by Monday, you're out of the program. Working with us here on this list (and geda-dev) will help us get to know you, and help you choose a suitable project, but you MUST get those project proposals TO GOOGLE by MONDAY. ___

Re: gEDA-user: random project idea

2008-03-27 Thread John Griessen
Randall Nortman wrote: I thought it was > basically impossible to get it right without assistance from the CAD > tool. PCIe keeps the signal lines differential and regular, so you have a chance. The open graphics project is slowly moving along -- they are motivated by several partners that h

Re: gEDA-user: gSoC proposals, deadline for student applications is Monday, March 31, 2008.

2008-03-27 Thread Ian Chapman
Hi Peter, I am not to sure if your are asking for projects for students to undertake or recruiting students to undertake projects? I guess I should look up this google summer code program and find out. If it is the former, one thing I've been thinking about starting but not being

gEDA-user: Footprint Updates at luciani.org

2008-03-27 Thread John Luciani
Footprints * Added footprint for API Delevan 1025 Molded Unshielded RF Coils IND-1016P-635L-241D__API-Delevan_1025.fp * Added footprint for the MaxStream XBee module MOD__MaxStream_XBee.fp * Added footprints for 3mm, 4mm, and 5mm LEDs using the Kingbright specifications. LED_

Re: gEDA-user: random project idea

2008-03-27 Thread DJ Delorie
> 1. Self-reconfigurable FPGAs have been promised for years, but aren't > ready, and probably never will be. Think carefully about the boot > sequence, and how one FPGA can boot the next. Having more than one > FPGA is probably a good thing. What about the new flash-based FPGAs? Maybe not as b

Re: gEDA-user: random project idea

2008-03-27 Thread Larry Doolittle
Guys - On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 04:22:34PM -0700, Jesse Gordon wrote: > DJ Delorie wrote: >>> http://www.xilinx.com/products/boards/ml410/index.html >> They have a lot of support chips on that board, though. Like the >> south bridge, CF controller, PCI bridge, etc. I was thinking more >> like "

Re: gEDA-user: random project idea

2008-03-27 Thread Jesse Gordon
DJ Delorie wrote: http://www.xilinx.com/products/boards/ml410/index.html They have a lot of support chips on that board, though. Like the south bridge, CF controller, PCI bridge, etc. I was thinking more like "every connector goes directly to an FPGA pin". Maybe one fpga for the cpu

Re: gEDA-user: random project idea

2008-03-27 Thread DJ Delorie
> http://geekz.co.uk/lovesraymond/archive/taking-freedom-further Yeah, that fits. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user

Re: gEDA-user: random project idea

2008-03-27 Thread DJ Delorie
> My understanding is that with the GHz busses on modern mobos you need With a soft CPU, the busses can go slower. I wouldn't expect such a project to compete with PCs. > I thought it was basically impossible to get it right without > assistance from the CAD tool. Well, we can change the CAD t

Re: gEDA-user: random project idea

2008-03-27 Thread Mark Rages
On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 5:36 PM, DJ Delorie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > ATX motherboard (or any pc motherboard shape, really, like micro-atx > or some laptop). PCI/PCIe slots, ISA slots, standard connectors, > SDRAM - whatever. > > A huge FPGA in the middle. > > Or two or three big QFP one

Re: gEDA-user: random project idea

2008-03-27 Thread DJ Delorie
> http://www.xilinx.com/products/boards/ml410/index.html They have a lot of support chips on that board, though. Like the south bridge, CF controller, PCI bridge, etc. I was thinking more like "every connector goes directly to an FPGA pin". Maybe one fpga for the cpu core and one for the per

Re: gEDA-user: random project idea

2008-03-27 Thread Randall Nortman
On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 06:36:38PM -0400, DJ Delorie wrote: > > ATX motherboard (or any pc motherboard shape, really, like micro-atx > or some laptop). PCI/PCIe slots, ISA slots, standard connectors, > SDRAM - whatever. > > A huge FPGA in the middle. [...] My understanding is that with the GHz

Re: gEDA-user: random project idea

2008-03-27 Thread Jean-Francois Blavier
DJ Delorie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > ATX motherboard (or any pc motherboard shape, really, like micro-atx > or some laptop). PCI/PCIe slots, ISA slots, standard connectors, > SDRAM - whatever. > > A huge FPGA in the middle. > > Or two or three big QFP ones. > > 100% synthetic circuitry, incl

gEDA-user: random project idea

2008-03-27 Thread DJ Delorie
ATX motherboard (or any pc motherboard shape, really, like micro-atx or some laptop). PCI/PCIe slots, ISA slots, standard connectors, SDRAM - whatever. A huge FPGA in the middle. Or two or three big QFP ones. 100% synthetic circuitry, including a soft CPU, in a PC case. If it's "designed for

gEDA-user: gSoC proposals, deadline for student applications is Monday, March 31, 2008.

2008-03-27 Thread Peter Clifton
Just a quick reminder, for those considering submitting applications to the Google Summer of Code program, that the deadline for submissions is Monday March 31st. According to the timetable: March 31: 5:00 PM PDT / 00:00 UTC April 1, 2008 Good luck everybody. Best wishes, -- Peter Clifton Ele

Re: gEDA-user: Error, too many apertures needed for Gerber file

2008-03-27 Thread Dan McMahill
DJ Delorie wrote: >> "Error, too many apertures needed for Gerber file." > > We added a global aperture cache to work around some problems with > certain fabs. The table has 256 entries. Your board has 315 unique > apertures (that means, 315 total of line widths, pad widths, pin > diameters, etc

Re: gEDA-user: Error, too many apertures needed for Gerber file

2008-03-27 Thread Stuart Brorson
>> "Error, too many apertures needed for Gerber file." > > We added a global aperture cache to work around some problems with > certain fabs. The table has 256 entries. Your board has 315 unique > apertures (that means, 315 total of line widths, pad widths, pin > diameters, etc). > > If you want

gEDA-user: openSUSE rpms in the science repository (for electronics, math and science)

2008-03-27 Thread Werner Hoch
Hi all, I'd like to announce the science repository at the openSUSE buildservice. You can find some installation instructions in the wiki: http://geda.seul.org/wiki/geda:suse_rpm_installation The science repo contains about 55 packages related to math, electronics and science: * gaf packages: