Re: gEDA-user: Parenthesis and commas in pcb action arguments

2009-06-11 Thread Jared Casper
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 3:37 PM, DJ Delorie wrote: > I think 2 & 3 would be good ideas even if we fixed gsch2pcb. > Two patches attached. First is for the pcb repo and adds quoting and escaping to the action argument parsing in pcb. I made the quoting rules similar to those for bash (single quot

Re: gEDA-user: Parenthesis and commas in pcb action arguments

2009-06-11 Thread DJ Delorie
> 2. Allow quoted strings in the action arguments which are passed as > is. This ends up with some some questions like how do you deal with > Action("foo" bar, baz) and you'd probably want to allow \" for a real > quotation mark. > > 3. Allow escaped characters in the action arguments, where \ >

gEDA-user: gnucap development snapshot 2009-06-11

2009-06-11 Thread al davis
There is a new development snapshot available ... http://gnucap.org/devel/gnucap-2009-06-11.tar.gz Optional plugin files: No source changes, so you can use the old source, but you do need to recompile http://gnucap.org/devel/gnucap-2009-06-11-models-bsim.tar.gz http://gnucap.org/devel/gnucap-200

gEDA-user: Parenthesis and commas in pcb action arguments

2009-06-11 Thread Jared Casper
I have some symbols that have pins with parenthesis in the name, which cause problems when using ChangePinName to name the footprint's pin in PCB the pin name from the symbol (i.e. using the gsch2pcb generated script). Commas in the pin name would cause problems as well. It's not a huge deal but

Re: gEDA-user: text labels on symbols, DRY, colon cancer, and redundant, repetitive redundancy.

2009-06-11 Thread Miles Gazic
> > Would anyone be opposed to having the netlister assume a :1 for net= > > attributes without a colon? > There was a patch for this available, but it did not make it in the > official code. I would love it if I didn't need the :1 on netlist names.  Right now I do not have :1 on my net names, and

Re: gEDA-user: text labels on symbols, DRY, colon cancer, and redundant, repetitive redundancy.

2009-06-11 Thread John Doty
On Jun 11, 2009, at 1:18 PM, Stefan Salewski wrote: > >> Would anyone be opposed to having the netlister assume a :1 for net= >> attributes without a colon? > > There was a patch for this available, but it did not make it in the > official code. There is a confusing collection of ways a one pin

Re: gEDA-user: text labels on symbols, DRY, colon cancer, and redundant, repetitive redundancy.

2009-06-11 Thread Stefan Salewski
On Thu, 2009-06-11 at 21:18 +0200, Stefan Salewski wrote: > > There was a patch for this available, but it did not make it in the > official code. > > See http://www.geda.seul.org/mailinglist/geda-user137/msg00098.html ___ geda-user mailing lis

Re: gEDA-user: text labels on symbols, DRY, colon cancer, and redundant, repetitive redundancy.

2009-06-11 Thread Stefan Salewski
On Thu, 2009-06-11 at 13:47 -0500, Mark Rages wrote: > In http://geda.seul.org/wiki/geda:scg, referring to the "device=" attribute: > > > This attribute should not be used as a label. Use a separate text object > > for the label. > > What is the reasoning behind this? This is pointless redundan

gEDA-user: text labels on symbols, DRY, colon cancer, and redundant, repetitive redundancy.

2009-06-11 Thread Mark Rages
In http://geda.seul.org/wiki/geda:scg, referring to the "device=" attribute: > This attribute should not be used as a label. Use a separate text object for >the label. What is the reasoning behind this?  This is pointless redundancy. And it makes using "light" symbols harder, because you need di

Re: gEDA-user: Question about gschem DRC errors when using separate power pin symbols.

2009-06-11 Thread John Doty
On Jun 11, 2009, at 10:53 AM, Andy Fierman wrote: > Perhaps I should ask a different question then > > Is there a better tool to use for gschem DRC? No, and it's really hard to do well, because gEDA is so flexible. What constitutes a DRC error depends on the details of *your* design flo

Re: gEDA-user: Question about gschem DRC errors when using separate power pin symbols.

2009-06-11 Thread Andy Fierman
Stefan, I should have said that I am using your latest symbols after all it was me that found the slotting bug. I've not tried Kai-Martin's symbols yet. :) Andy. http://.signality.co.uk 2009/6/11 Stefan Salewski : > On Thu, 2009-06-11 at 17:28 +0100, Andy Fierman wrote: >> Hi,

Re: gEDA-user: Question about gschem DRC errors when using separate power pin symbols.

2009-06-11 Thread Andy Fierman
Perhaps I should ask a different question then Is there a better tool to use for gschem DRC? In the meanwhile, I think I may add a comment to the pwr pins symbol to remind me that it will show up a refdes and slot error. :) I think that answers my question Thanks, Andy. http://

Re: gEDA-user: Question about gschem DRC errors when using separate power pin symbols.

2009-06-11 Thread Stefan Salewski
On Thu, 2009-06-11 at 17:28 +0100, Andy Fierman wrote: > Hi, > > I'm puzzled by a couple of gschem DRC errors I'm getting. > > I'm using Stefan Salewski's quad comparator symbol with the separate > power pins symbol. Please ensure that you are using a recent version from gedasymbols -- some mon

Re: gEDA-user: Question about gschem DRC errors when using separate power pin symbols.

2009-06-11 Thread John Doty
drc2 has a very narrow view of how the world works. If you are doing a pure digital design using a single logic family using hidden power pins, it's not *too* bad. But generally, it hides real errors behind a flood of messages about things that aren't errors at all. gEDA is much more flexib

Re: gEDA-user: Question about gschem DRC errors when using separate power pin symbols.

2009-06-11 Thread Andy Fierman
Hi John, The comparator symbol has a numslots and slotdef attributes and I have edited the slot attribute for each. The power pin symbol does not have a numslots or any slotdef attributes. I've got the right pinout for each of the four comparator symbols in gschem and as I say, the connectivity i

Re: gEDA-user: Question about gschem DRC errors when using separate power pin symbols.

2009-06-11 Thread John Luciani
Did you change the slot attribute for each of the comparators? (* jcl *) -- You can't create open hardware with closed EDA tools. http://www.luciani.org ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinf

gEDA-user: Question about gschem DRC errors when using separate power pin symbols.

2009-06-11 Thread Andy Fierman
Hi, I'm puzzled by a couple of gschem DRC errors I'm getting. I'm using Stefan Salewski's quad comparator symbol with the separate power pins symbol. I have four comparators plus the power pin symbol all with the refdes of U1. All symbols are given an SO14.fp footprint. When I run: gnetlist

Re: gEDA-user: IPC Least/Nominal/Most

2009-06-11 Thread Stefan Salewski
On Thu, 2009-06-11 at 09:57 -0400, John Luciani wrote: > For hand soldering which footprint variation are people using? > > My existing passive footprints are very generous in length I tried to use your 0805 and 0603 (imperial) footprints. But the space between the pads was very small, not much

Re: gEDA-user: IPC Least/Nominal/Most

2009-06-11 Thread Duncan Drennan
> For hand soldering which footprint variation are people using? I am currently using the M (most) definitions for both hand soldering and production. I have found them very reasonable to use. I even managed to hand solder a QFN package from the "most" definitionsalthough my pass rate was only

gEDA-user: IPC Least/Nominal/Most

2009-06-11 Thread John Luciani
For hand soldering which footprint variation are people using? My existing passive footprints are very generous in length making for very easy assembly by hand. I would like to get some smaller footprints that are not too difficult for hand assembly. The IPC M footprints do not look too difficult.