Re: gEDA-user: More eye-candy

2009-10-14 Thread Link
On 15/10/09 05:25, Peter Clifton wrote: > I think it takes a good board to show off the potential benefits of the > 3D view, so I've made another screen-shot. > > The board is by John Bass (jb...@dmsd.com), Copyright 2007 DMS Design. > > http://www2.eng.cam.ac.uk/~pcjc2/geda/pcb+gl_3d/pcb+gl_3d-6.p

Re: gEDA-user: More eye-candy

2009-10-14 Thread DJ Delorie
> I don't have any >2 layer designs myself. Here you go... http://www.delorie.com/electronics/alarmclock/board.pcb (esp the ground plane clearances under the crystals and switcher) http://www.delorie.com/electronics/usb-gpio/usb-gpio-pp.pcb (has lots of curvy bits) http://www.delorie.com

Re: gEDA-user: More eye-candy

2009-10-14 Thread Dave McGuire
On Oct 14, 2009, at 11:25 PM, Peter Clifton wrote: > I think it takes a good board to show off the potential benefits of > the > 3D view, so I've made another screen-shot. > > The board is by John Bass (jb...@dmsd.com), Copyright 2007 DMS Design. > > http://www2.eng.cam.ac.uk/~pcjc2/geda/pcb+gl_3

gEDA-user: More eye-candy

2009-10-14 Thread Peter Clifton
I think it takes a good board to show off the potential benefits of the 3D view, so I've made another screen-shot. The board is by John Bass (jb...@dmsd.com), Copyright 2007 DMS Design. http://www2.eng.cam.ac.uk/~pcjc2/geda/pcb+gl_3d/pcb+gl_3d-6.png I don't have any >2 layer designs myself. B

Re: gEDA-user: PCB+GL+3D (Z-coord) Eye-candy

2009-10-14 Thread Peter Clifton
On Wed, 2009-10-14 at 09:36 -0700, Mike Bushroe wrote: > WOW, that looks nice! And having that might help me to remember that >PCB keeps defaulting to putting the rat lines on the component side >for a single sided board, so when I finally produce the board, I have >to turn it over and

Re: gEDA-user: net= attributes, symbols and schematics

2009-10-14 Thread John Griessen
Stephen Williams wrote: > I'm planing a circuit where some chips have a wide variety of > different power supply requirements. Assuming the nice star pattern of power distribution from the source and back will assemble itself is a lost cause, so there's no need to pre label every part with a t

Re: gEDA-user: net= attributes, symbols and schematics

2009-10-14 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 15:58:14 -0700, Stephen Williams wrote: > I'm planing a circuit where some chips have a wide variety of different > power supply requirements. I'm debating with myself whether I should > create symbols that have net= attributes for all the various power > types, or if I should

gEDA-user: net= attributes, symbols and schematics

2009-10-14 Thread Stephen Williams
I'm planing a circuit where some chips have a wide variety of different power supply requirements. I'm debating with myself whether I should create symbols that have net= attributes for all the various power types, or if I should attach attributes from outside the symbol, or create pins for all th

Re: gEDA-user: rotate smd parts 0603

2009-10-14 Thread Stefan Salewski
On Wed, 2009-10-14 at 14:34 +0200, Klaus Rudolph wrote: > > But is it not a typical work flow to first move and rotate the parts, do > the layout and after that move the labels around? If I first move the > labels, they may appear near another element. This makes things a bit > difficult to han

Re: gEDA-user: PCB burn in spec?

2009-10-14 Thread DJ Delorie
That would be a burn UP spec, not a burn IN spec ;-) ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user

Re: gEDA-user: PCB burn in spec?

2009-10-14 Thread Stuart Brorson
I don't know about burn-in specs, but one usually specifies a glass temperature (Tg) and a destruction temperature (Td) for the PCB material you want to use (typically FR-4). I don't recall the nominal Td and Tg we used to use, but I do know they is now higher due to the RoHS directives. A quick

gEDA-user: PCB burn in spec?

2009-10-14 Thread Ellec, Chris
Can somebody recommends burn in spec. for PCB such as time vs. temperature? Is there a mil spec for that? I could only find mil-spec for burning in individual IC, not PCB (mil-std-883 for example). Thanks, Chris. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@

Re: gEDA-user: PCB+GL+3D (Z-coord) Eye-candy

2009-10-14 Thread Mike Bushroe
WOW, that looks nice! And having that might help me to remember that PCB keeps defaulting to putting the rat lines on the component side for a single sided board, so when I finally produce the board, I have to turn it over and flip all the components. Mike

Re: gEDA-user: PCB+GL+3D (Z-coord) Eye-candy

2009-10-14 Thread Peter Clifton
On Wed, 2009-10-14 at 07:54 -0400, Ethan Swint wrote: > > Just proof of concept stuff... > > > > http://www2.eng.cam.ac.uk/~pcjc2/geda/pcb+gl_3d/ > > > > There isn't anything clever here.. just the same PCB+GL translucent > > rendering I had before, but with a 3D virtual trackball to rotate the > >

Re: gEDA-user: pcb: moving components to other side

2009-10-14 Thread DJ Delorie
> and I think, to flip the parts around a middle line or the center of the > board is not really what a user want. If you've selected many elements, this is the best we can do, and it keeps the group of elements in the same position relative to each other once they're moved. __

Re: gEDA-user: rotate smd parts 0603

2009-10-14 Thread DJ Delorie
> If I set "settings->lock names" I could rotate the element if the name > is visible. "Lock names" locks the element names relative to the element, so you don't keep accidentally moving the name when you intend to move the whole element. I do most of my PCB editing with names locked. > If sil

Re: gEDA-user: rotate smd parts 0603

2009-10-14 Thread Ineiev
On 10/14/09, Klaus Rudolph wrote: > I think the "no rotation of elements if silk layer is off" is a bit > mysterious. > > The lock names setting is my work around for the problem, so I can do my > work. But I think this is not the behavior which is expected. Who don't expect unexpected, shall not

Re: gEDA-user: Color PS output

2009-10-14 Thread evan foss
Thanks guys. On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 5:09 PM, Gareth Edwards wrote: > 2009/9/30 Peter TB Brett : >> Try adding the following to your gafrc: >> >>  (load (build-path geda-rc-path "print-colormap-lightbg")) >> > > Thanks, Peter, that works for me and I've update the wiki to reflect this. > > Gareth

Re: gEDA-user: rotate smd parts 0603

2009-10-14 Thread Klaus Rudolph
Stefan Salewski schrieb: > On Wed, 2009-10-14 at 08:51 +0200, Klaus Rudolph wrote: >> Ineiev schrieb: >>> On 10/13/09, Klaus Rudolph wrote: I try to rotate some smd parts (0603) on the layout,m but only the silk layer rotates. If I switch of the silk layer, I could not rotate anythi

Re: gEDA-user: rotate smd parts 0603

2009-10-14 Thread Stefan Salewski
On Wed, 2009-10-14 at 08:51 +0200, Klaus Rudolph wrote: > Ineiev schrieb: > > On 10/13/09, Klaus Rudolph wrote: > >> I try to rotate some smd parts (0603) on the layout,m but only the silk > >> layer rotates. If I switch of the silk layer, I could not rotate > >> anything. Rotating SO14 is working

Re: gEDA-user: PCB+GL+3D (Z-coord) Eye-candy

2009-10-14 Thread Ethan Swint
> Just proof of concept stuff... > > http://www2.eng.cam.ac.uk/~pcjc2/geda/pcb+gl_3d/ > > There isn't anything clever here.. just the same PCB+GL translucent > rendering I had before, but with a 3D virtual trackball to rotate the > viewport. > > Very cool! How do you set the origin for the vi

Re: gEDA-user: pcb: moving components to other side

2009-10-14 Thread Klaus Rudolph
Stefan Salewski schrieb: > On Wed, 2009-10-14 at 13:19 +0200, Stefan Salewski wrote: >> On Wed, 2009-10-14 at 10:07 +0200, Klaus Rudolph wrote: >>> Hi all, >>> >>> if I move a component to the other side of the board, the part is moved >>> to a total different position! >>> >>> I expected that the

Re: gEDA-user: pcb: moving components to other side

2009-10-14 Thread Stefan Salewski
On Wed, 2009-10-14 at 13:19 +0200, Stefan Salewski wrote: > On Wed, 2009-10-14 at 10:07 +0200, Klaus Rudolph wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > if I move a component to the other side of the board, the part is moved > > to a total different position! > > > > I expected that the part is on the same place

Re: gEDA-user: pcb: moving components to other side

2009-10-14 Thread Stefan Salewski
On Wed, 2009-10-14 at 10:07 +0200, Klaus Rudolph wrote: > Hi all, > > if I move a component to the other side of the board, the part is moved > to a total different position! > > I expected that the part is on the same place but on the other side. > > What I did wrong? > > How do you move th

gEDA-user: pcb: moving components to other side

2009-10-14 Thread Klaus Rudolph
Hi all, if I move a component to the other side of the board, the part is moved to a total different position! I expected that the part is on the same place but on the other side. What I did wrong? ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.o