Re: gEDA-user: PCB+GL+3D Packages??

2010-11-15 Thread John Griessen
On 11/15/2010 08:19 PM, kai-martin knaak wrote: .. and that's about all it can do right now. I don't want to frustrate Here's an example of a python script that can be launched from a python interpreter window of HeeksCAD. It defines a shelf parametrically. It can be exported as STEP or STL

Re: gEDA-user: PCB+GL+3D Packages??

2010-11-15 Thread kai-martin knaak
ok, I'l play the FreeCAD advovate again: John Griessen wrote: > HeeksCAD can do both those things and has python interface instead > of a "subset" script language (another new language)...or it has > a GUI to make sketches (2D outlines) from faces of solid primitives > or from complex booleans

Re: gEDA-user: PCB+GL+3D Packages??

2010-11-15 Thread Peter Clifton
On Mon, 2010-11-15 at 02:37 +, Peter Clifton wrote: > An actual rendering from PCB+GL with some code I've been playing with... > > http://www2.eng.cam.ac.uk/~pcjc2/geda/pcb+gl_3d/pcb+gl_3d_packages_mockup.png And I figured out lighting a little better, and in the process ran into a nasty "bug

Re: gEDA-user: PCB+GL+3D Packages??

2010-11-15 Thread Peter Clifton
On Tue, 2010-11-16 at 00:01 +0100, Armin Faltl wrote: > > I'm thinking VRML (perhaps as output by Wings32) might be a good choice, > > as I believe this is what KiCad uses. > > > Same, need to check details, e.g. if dimensions and layers are supported. VRML (as I understand it) is surfaces on

Re: gEDA-user: Problems compiling PCB Release 20100929

2010-11-15 Thread kai-martin knaak
Felipe De la Puente Christen wrote: >> 2) from the current git head >> 3) the GL enabled version by Peter Clifton, before_pours branch. > > In my case, I have PCB Head built with default configuration. > > And also have GL enabled pcb using --program-suffix=-gl at configure > time. Thus I have

Re: gEDA-user: PCB+GL+3D Packages??

2010-11-15 Thread Armin Faltl
Peter Clifton wrote: An actual rendering from PCB+GL with some code I've been playing with... http://www2.eng.cam.ac.uk/~pcjc2/geda/pcb+gl_3d/pcb+gl_3d_packages_mockup.png very nice 2. Will anyone bother to make 3D models for packages? if it's easy enough I'll probably do it for the foo

Re: gEDA-user: PCB+GL+3D Packages??

2010-11-15 Thread Bert Timmerman
Hi John, > -Original Message- > From: geda-user-boun...@moria.seul.org > [mailto:geda-user-boun...@moria.seul.org] On Behalf Of John Griessen > Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 10:50 PM > To: gEDA user mailing list > Subject: Re: gEDA-user: PCB+GL+3D Packages?? > > On 11/15/2010 03:24 PM

Re: gEDA-user: PCB+GL+3D Packages??

2010-11-15 Thread John Griessen
On 11/15/2010 03:24 PM, Peter Clifton wrote: However, OpenSCAD seems to have some (user) momentum in the MakerBot& > Thingieverse culture, and the OpenSCAD code resembles to be a small subset > of the C programming language. Interesting. > At least one nifty thing OpenSCAD can do is extrude

Re: gEDA-user: Comments on pcb's g-code exporter & HeeksCAD/HeeksCNC FOSS program for pcb milling

2010-11-15 Thread Markus Hitter
Am 15.11.2010 um 18:06 schrieb Stephan Boettcher: Markus Hitter writes: Exactly. A rectangle, or any number of lines drawing another area. Milled is always a rectangle, though. Hmm, why? The outline layer is especially useful for boards that are not rectangular shaped. As I explained ea

Re: gEDA-user: PCB+GL+3D Packages??

2010-11-15 Thread Peter Clifton
On Mon, 2010-11-15 at 20:33 +0100, Bert Timmerman wrote: > Some questions come to mind: > > 1) Are the resistors modelled with 3D- primitives like spheres/cylinders, or > are they modelled with 3D-faces ? 3D faces.. but you don't want to see the code ;) over 300 lines to draw a resistor! 3D fac

Re: gEDA-user: Matching footprints with symbols

2010-11-15 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
Colin D Bennett wrote: > But if the footprints in question (with names containing hyphens) are in > newlib (PCB element) format, doesn't this mean that the m4 processor > bug will be avoided? Unfortunately, not. By default, gsch2pcb hands all footprints to the m4 processor. There is an option to

Re: gEDA-user: New branch of PCB

2010-11-15 Thread Stephen Ecob
On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 12:47 AM, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: > Stephen Ecob wrote: > >> Motivation >> Having laid out a couple of boards with PCB 20091103 I became aware of >> some bugs in the autorouter that made the job difficult: > > Are you talking about the default auto router. Or is this about

Re: gEDA-user: PCB+GL Testers (please test)

2010-11-15 Thread Frank Bergmann
Am 11.11.2010 00:13, schrieb Peter Clifton: On Wed, 2010-11-10 at 21:34 +0100, Frank Bergmann wrote: You find the backtrace at http://www.frajasalo.de/frank/projekt/pcb/gdb-pcb.local_customisation_no_pours-backtrace-20101110-1.txt I hope it will help, even without the debugging symbols in the

Re: gEDA-user: PCB+GL+3D Packages??

2010-11-15 Thread Bert Timmerman
Hi Peter and all, > -Original Message- > From: geda-user-boun...@moria.seul.org > [mailto:geda-user-boun...@moria.seul.org] On Behalf Of Peter Clifton > Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 3:37 AM > To: geda-user > Subject: gEDA-user: PCB+GL+3D Packages?? > > An actual rendering from PCB+GL

Re: gEDA-user: Matching footprints with symbols

2010-11-15 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Mon, 15 Nov 2010 14:56:09 +0100 Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: > Colin D Bennett wrote: > > >> Bottom line: Avoid hyphens in footprint names except to add a > >> revision number at the end of the base name. > > > > Alternate bottom line: Avoid m4 footprint library. > > ack. > In addition: Be awar

Re: gEDA-user: Comments on pcb's g-code exporter & HeeksCAD/HeeksCNC FOSS program for pcb milling

2010-11-15 Thread Stephan Boettcher
Markus Hitter writes: > Exactly. A rectangle, or any number of lines drawing another > area. Milled is always a rectangle, though. Hmm, why? The outline layer is especially useful for boards that are not rectangular shaped. -- Stephan ___ geda-u

Re: gEDA-user: Problems compiling PCB Release 20100929

2010-11-15 Thread Kovacs Levente
On Wed, 10 Nov 2010 21:19:20 + Peter TB Brett wrote: > Ignore me, I'm an idiot. Y'all are talking about PCB, not gEDA. > Sorry! AFAIK, there are similar lines in the README of PCB as well. -- Kovacs Levente Voice: +36705071002 ___ geda-user

Re: gEDA-user: PCB+GL+3D Packages??

2010-11-15 Thread John Griessen
On 11/14/2010 08:37 PM, Peter Clifton wrote: 1. Does anyone care about seeing this land in PCB? 2. Will anyone bother to make 3D models for packages? Yes. 3. What format would people like to make models in? STEP, so I can load it in HeeksCAD and use HeeksCNC to carve enclosures. John -- Ecose

Re: gEDA-user: Comments on pcb's g-code exporter & HeeksCAD/HeeksCNC FOSS program for pcb milling

2010-11-15 Thread Markus Hitter
Am 15.11.2010 um 06:55 schrieb d...@umich.edu: I tried to draw an outline in an 'outline' layer and 'pcb' just turned the trace lines into an isolation routing outline. Ouch. This shouldn't happen. Did you apply all 24 patches? If yes, could you send me (not to the list) the .pcb file show

Re: gEDA-user: Problems compiling PCB Release 20100929

2010-11-15 Thread Felipe De la Puente Christen
On Mon, 2010-11-15 at 15:21 +0100, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: > Colin D Bennett wrote: > > >> Synaptic package of pcb along with the compiled version? > > > > You should look at the 'prefix' where pcb is configured for > > installation. > > Default prefix is "/usr/local". pcb will install its bina

Re: gEDA-user: Problems compiling PCB Release 20100929

2010-11-15 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
Colin D Bennett wrote: >> Synaptic package of pcb along with the compiled version? > > You should look at the 'prefix' where pcb is configured for > installation. Default prefix is "/usr/local". pcb will install its binary into /usr/local/bin and the libs into /usr/local/lib. By default, these

Re: gEDA-user: PCB+GL notes on VBOs

2010-11-15 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
Richard Barlow wrote: > I ran the power-hw board on my machine and achieved around 85FPS. > Felipe ran the same board on his machine and achieved around 18FPS. > > My graphics card has 1GB of VRAM, Felipe's has 256MB The good result I finally got with the power board was achieved with ATI Radeo

Re: gEDA-user: Matching footprints with symbols

2010-11-15 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
Colin D Bennett wrote: >> Bottom line: Avoid hyphens in footprint names except to add a >> revision number at the end of the base name. > > Alternate bottom line: Avoid m4 footprint library. ack. In addition: Be aware of potential problems if you share your hyphenated footprints with other use

Re: gEDA-user: [PCB-Patches] Action-documentation

2010-11-15 Thread Felix Ruoff
What do you think of the following descriptions: @item ToggleLockNames If set, text will ignore left mouse clicks and actions that work on objects under the mouse. @item ToggleOnlyNames If set, only text will be sensitive for mouse clicks and actions that work on objects under the mouse. I'd p

Re: gEDA-user: New branch of PCB

2010-11-15 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
Stephen Ecob wrote: > Motivation > Having laid out a couple of boards with PCB 20091103 I became aware of > some bugs in the autorouter that made the job difficult: Are you talking about the default auto router. Or is this about the shiny, new "toporouter"? ---<)kaimartin(>--- -- Kai-Martin Kn

Re: gEDA-user: [PCB-Patches] Action-documentation

2010-11-15 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
Felix Ruoff wrote: >> b) Technically, it does not really lock the position but makes the >> labels insensitive to various user induced actions. Most importantly, >> text will ignore left mouse click and actions that work on objects >> under the mouse. You can still select the text with a lasso (le