Re: gEDA-user: Some kind of library manager and hierarchical netlisting

2008-11-20 Thread Bernd Jendrissek
> Don't worry about him. I suspect he's one of the poisonous people > you run across in open software development. haven't looked at the video Al > suggested yet, but planning on it. I think it's important not to jump to conclusions about any particular poster's toxicity. IMHO this video itself

Re: gEDA-user: pcb, how to remove mm garbage (very short lines)?

2008-11-20 Thread Bernd Jendrissek
On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 4:21 AM, Steve Meier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 1 in = 25.3972 mm not exactly 25.4 but close enough for layout > work if you use high enough precision. I recall one of my physics professors stating the same thing, but I can't find anything to back up the claim. W

Re: gEDA-user: OT: D-sub pin-shorter / pin-breaker?

2008-11-19 Thread Bernd Jendrissek
On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 12:27 PM, Peter Clifton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 2008-11-18 at 04:02 -0500, der Mouse wrote: >> ITYPM DE9 and DA15; I've never seen a 9- or 15-position connector in a >> DB shell (but I've often seen DE9 and DA15 miscalled DB9 and DB15). >> But that aside, > > I

Re: gEDA-user: From on side to the other one

2008-11-10 Thread Bernd Jendrissek
On Sun, Nov 9, 2008 at 7:27 PM, John Griessen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Bernd Jendrissek wrote: >> Seriously, one day when i get off my a** and build something useful >> I'll probably make a bunch of dead-bug footprints in the hope of >> getting the board cost

Re: gEDA-user: From on side to the other one

2008-11-07 Thread Bernd Jendrissek
On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 7:46 PM, DJ Delorie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> is their a way to move a component from one side to the other one >> just as is, no flip, no rotation. > > Sorry, no. Why do you want to do this? (I'm not being sarcastic, if > you explain what you're trying to accomplish, w

Re: gEDA-user: Slotting and visible power connections

2008-11-06 Thread Bernd Jendrissek
On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 8:06 PM, Joerg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > When you place, say, a LM324 as the seventh chip it will plop down U7A. What do you mean "place ... as the seventh chip"? Do you mean when you place your 25th opamp symbol that happens to be realized as 1/4 of a LM324? How does E

Re: gEDA-user: Slotting and visible power connections

2008-11-05 Thread Bernd Jendrissek
On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 4:24 AM, Joerg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yes, I thought about that, having generic opamp blocks and scooting a > pair of "floating" power pins over the first instantiation of a two- or > four-pack. That is how it's done in Eagle if you don't want to create a > new symbol (

Re: gEDA-user: Hiding power pins in schematic symbols?

2008-11-03 Thread Bernd Jendrissek
On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 9:24 PM, Frank Miles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thanks John and Kai-Martin, that should be an adequate if awkward work-around. > It must also be the approach to take when other "shape changes" are desirable > beyond the limits of rotation and mirroring. If you're willing

Re: gEDA-user: Driving the netlist from PCB (instead of gschem)

2008-09-30 Thread Bernd Jendrissek
On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 7:01 PM, Peter Clifton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I was specifically meaning - support a syntax which is legal "XML", but > not actually "XML". Then you wouldn't have to support xpath, xinclude, > and all the other baggage associated with XML. > > You could, for example, d

Re: gEDA-user: Driving the netlist from PCB (instead of gschem)

2008-09-30 Thread Bernd Jendrissek
[I'm not really a big XML fan, FWIW] On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 6:43 PM, DJ Delorie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "industry support" for xml is like "industry support" for zip files. > It's not the syntax that's important, it's the data structure within > it. Just because we're using XML does NOT mea

Re: gEDA-user: Driving the netlist from PCB (instead of gschem)

2008-09-30 Thread Bernd Jendrissek
On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 5:56 PM, Peter Clifton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Could we translitteate the guts of it into a non-XML, more line-based > format? (Again, if people are dead-against XML for some or other > reason.) s-expressions? I think somewhere someone made a bet that they could make

Re: gEDA-user: Driving the netlist from PCB (instead of gschem)

2008-09-29 Thread Bernd Jendrissek
On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 11:12 PM, DJ Delorie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Perhaps if the netlist used symbolic names (pin names in pcb) instead > of pin numbers, and added a pin-swap list? Then pcb could swap the > symbolic names and everything else "just works". I can still see how to do this fa

Re: gEDA-user: gerbv: requires manual ldconfig

2008-09-12 Thread Bernd Jendrissek
On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 8:11 PM, Dave N6NZ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Just did a build of libgerbv from CVS, and I note that the naive > 'make install' required that I manually run ldconfig afterwards so that > gerbv could find libgerbv. As others have noted this is a feature, not a bug. Besi

Re: gEDA-user: gschem symbols -- why use simple text for device name?

2008-09-10 Thread Bernd Jendrissek
On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 6:10 PM, Stefan Salewski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Many symbols shipped with gEDA/gschem use simple text to display the > name of the device, i.e. "MAX232" or "7404". > > Tragesym does this too -- so I did this for my own symbols. > > But is this really a good choice? > I

Re: gEDA-user: ideeas for gschem and pcb

2008-07-15 Thread Bernd Jendrissek
On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 5:32 PM, DJ Delorie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> The pin number assignments are not always the same between the >> different footprints. > > Yeah. We've talked about this before, what you need is something that > maps a symbol (or group of alternate symbols) to a footprint

Re: gEDA-user: ideeas for gschem and pcb

2008-07-15 Thread Bernd Jendrissek
On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 3:14 PM, Robas, Teodor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 1. Footprint alternatives. Basicaly this is done by adding some new > items in the .sym models: > e.g. > footprint_alternative1=DIP20 > footprint_alternative2=SSOP20 > and so on. > And add a dropdown box in gschem when

Re: gEDA-user: gschem cairo - how to compile?

2008-07-07 Thread Bernd Jendrissek
On Sun, Jul 6, 2008 at 11:37 AM, michalwd1979 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > config.status: cannot find input file: Makefile.in > make: *** [libgeda_config] Error 1 > > I set all variables LD_LIBRARY_PATH and so on, as described in top-level > makefile. Please tell me what I am doing wrong? A week

Re: gEDA-user: Gsch2pcb for Ubuntu

2008-07-04 Thread Bernd Jendrissek
On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 4:39 AM, Thomas D. Dean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am in the midst of switching from FreeBSD to Linux. So happens, I > have Ubuntu. > > I installed geda with apt-get. Quite a few things not there. > gsch2pcb. Looks like geda only "suggests" geda-utils, which contains g

Re: gEDA-user: gschem won't connect nets

2008-06-11 Thread Bernd Jendrissek
On Sun, May 25, 2008 at 4:25 AM, Rick Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Or perhaps the software should check this and give a warning when > placing a part so that it is not connectable. It could be cute to have a libgsymcheck which gschem's component selector could invoke each time you select a

Re: gEDA-user: multi-slot symbol with different graphics

2008-05-14 Thread Bernd Jendrissek
On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 12:56 PM, gene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is this possible? There's a device that has 2 bjt's in it, 1 is npn the > other is pnp. It might be nicer on the schematic to have it in 2 slots > so placement is neater. But how would the 2 slots use different graphic > element

Re: gEDA-user: Very heavy symbols

2008-04-11 Thread Bernd Jendrissek
On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 11:51 PM, Carl Denzen Van <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have seen symbols with footprints and alternate footprints. > Wouldn't it be a good idea to have "very heavy" symbols that > incorporate the definition of many footprints, and you can select one > of them with p.e.

Re: gEDA-user: netlist q

2008-03-31 Thread Bernd Jendrissek
On Sat, Mar 29, 2008 at 7:42 AM, DJ Delorie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have a schematic with two symbols with the same refdes. So far so good. > > There are overlapping pin numbers between the two symbols; one > reflects the physical layout and has pins numbered 1..N, the other is > a djbo

Re: gEDA-user: creating not regular footprints

2008-03-20 Thread Bernd Jendrissek
On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 9:31 PM, DJ Delorie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You didn't say that was a drilled hole. No, pcb doesn't support > non-round holes. Not even by (ab)using the "outline" layer? ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.or

Re: gEDA-user: make install doesn't work on OpenBSD

2008-02-08 Thread Bernd Jendrissek
On Feb 7, 2008 11:47 PM, Peter Clifton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Perhaps I just listed another argument for recombining the suite? > > BTW.. It is entirely possible for debian packages (probably RPMs too), > to build the "n" binary packages (about 8,9 or so now), from a single > source tarball..

Re: gEDA-user: make install doesn't work on OpenBSD

2008-02-07 Thread Bernd Jendrissek
On Feb 7, 2008 5:10 PM, Peter Clifton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thats not the big issue.. the one which stumps me, is that we need to > decide at autogen.sh time whether to run intltoolize. (IE. whether to > ship a tarball with intltool or more native gettext scripts in /po/). I think distribut

Re: gEDA-user: gschem .scm script stopped working with gschem upgrade

2008-02-06 Thread Bernd Jendrissek
On Feb 6, 2008 12:08 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > (load (string-append gedadatarc "/gschem-lightbg")) ; light background Try replacing it with: (load (build-path geda-rc-path "gschem-lightbg")) HTH ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul

Re: gEDA-user: gEDA from all sources

2008-01-15 Thread Bernd Jendrissek
On Jan 15, 2008 5:21 PM, Ian Chapman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This is getting to be a real adventure. Good thing I am enjoying it > all. I'm glad - mere mortals don't like fighting the universe one bit! > gcc -Wall -g -O2 -o gnetlist i_vars.o g_netlist.o g_rc.o g_register.o > globals.o gn

Re: gEDA-user: geda tarball

2008-01-15 Thread Bernd Jendrissek
On Jan 15, 2008 2:54 PM, Ian Chapman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ gschem > gschem: error while loading shared libraries: libgeda.so.31: cannot open > shared object file: No such file or directory > The package manager says libgeda29 is loaded libgeda-dev also. That's your prob