gEDA-user: PCBs using desktop inkjet

2007-04-19 Thread C P Tarun
When will gEDA start providing support for "printed" circuits? :) Tarun Modified ink printer churns out electronic circuits * 18:24 18 April 2007 * NewScientist.com news service * Tom Simonite A desktop printer loaded with a silver salt solution and vitamin C has been used to produc

Re: gEDA-user: A suggestion about the stuff on gedasymbols

2007-03-22 Thread C P Tarun
Note, also, that any user can use cvs to download (and update) the entire web site, which includes the symbols and footprints in their current structure. Agreed. I feel that for someone who is not interested in updating/uploading anything, a tarball is much easier than setting up CVS. At least

Re: gEDA-user: A suggestion about the stuff on gedasymbols

2007-03-22 Thread C P Tarun
Gedasymbols is primarily a contributor place, not a replacement for the shipped libraries. Symbols which have proven themselves, and are popular, should be migrated from gedasymbols to the official libraries. In any case I'll elaborate what I was thinking. I was thinking that open-source compo

gEDA-user: A suggestion about the stuff on gedasymbols

2007-03-22 Thread C P Tarun
Can we store all the contributed symbols, footprints, and the like in two forms: one per-contributor as it is now, and the other in a single well-structured and usable tree which can be downloaded and used by a geda user? When a geda user downloads and uses these components from a contributed rep

Re: gEDA-user: Design Flow Roadmap starting point

2007-03-19 Thread C P Tarun
I corrected the documentation and added the TO220 pads example to the Examples section. Great. Thanks. :) ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user

Re: gEDA-user: Design Flow Roadmap starting point

2007-03-18 Thread C P Tarun
A script to place TO220 pads can be pretty simple (see below). The poorly named routine element_add_pin_oval overlays a pin, a rounded pad on the component side and a rounded pad on the solder side. I have been reading your (excellently-formatted reference-class) documentation on your library. T

Re: gEDA-user: Design Flow Roadmap starting point

2007-03-18 Thread C P Tarun
Very interesting. What's Pcb_8? Where do I find it? I'm looking through your Website to see if there's some Perl module there. Found Pcb_8 in your Perl library documentation. Thanks. Tarun ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://w

Re: gEDA-user: Design Flow Roadmap starting point

2007-03-18 Thread C P Tarun
A script to place TO220 pads can be pretty simple (see below). The poorly named routine element_add_pin_oval overlays a pin, a rounded pad on the component side and a rounded pad on the solder side. Very interesting. What's Pcb_8? Where do I find it? I'm looking through your Website to see if th

Re: gEDA-user: Design Flow Roadmap starting point

2007-03-18 Thread C P Tarun
You may want to try one of the many footprint scripts that are around. Making the footprints in a batch using a script is a lot less error prone than one by one in the GUI. If you are looking for DIPs or SIP headers with rounded pads over pins you could try my website. Actually I've seen some o

Re: gEDA-user: Design Flow Roadmap starting point

2007-03-18 Thread C P Tarun
> 3. There should be native support for elongated vias (they > are called "pads" in Eagle) when defining an element. The way to do this in pcb is to put a pin and a pad in the same place. The pin gives you the drill hole, and the pad defines the elongated copper shape. Yes, I've tried this

Re: gEDA-user: installation

2007-03-18 Thread C P Tarun
This is almost a religious issue. Aren't most questions which have many correct answers? :) However, I personally recommend users to install into a new directory, /usr/local/geda, and then set their $PATH variables to point to it... Great. This is really I wanted to know. I wanted to know ho

Re: gEDA-user: Design Flow Roadmap starting point

2007-03-18 Thread C P Tarun
Another point: I thought it would be useful to have more control over the different attributes which get printed or exported in Gerber plots. I really like the way Eagle breaks all attributes into layers, and then allows me to define a "CAM job" to generate, say, the silkscreen layer. While defini

Re: gEDA-user: Design Flow Roadmap starting point

2007-03-18 Thread C P Tarun
I am a beginner, and I have a lot of exposure to Eagle, so please keep these limitations/biases in mind. I would really like to see the following additions: 1. In gschem, when selecting a footprint, I would like to see the footprint _and_ its description in a popup window. I should be abl

Re: gEDA-user: installation

2007-03-18 Thread C P Tarun
Do not install as root. If you install as root, and you need to install system-wide dependencies, the installer becomes confused when it tries to fire up an expect session as root. Now I'm confused. In all these years of working on Unix, I've always thought packages need to be installed as root

Re: gEDA-user: Hi.... first post

2007-03-16 Thread C P Tarun
Great. How do I ask Ales for a login? Got it. ahvezda at geda.seul.org. Tarun ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user

Re: gEDA-user: Hi.... first post

2007-03-16 Thread C P Tarun
I just asked Ales for a http://geda.seul.org/wiki login. It's for the gEDA suite Great. How do I ask Ales for a login? Tarun ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user

Re: gEDA-user: Hi.... first post

2007-03-15 Thread C P Tarun
Thanks, all of you guys. Specially Dan, your explanation of pin names and numbers was desperately needed. Here is the problem. In PCB, pins have a name and a number. The number is specific to the package and the name is specific to whats inside the package. Lets take a SO8 package that happen

gEDA-user: Hi.... first post

2007-03-15 Thread C P Tarun
Can any of you please help me with this question? Why didn't the .cmd file work? Tarun -- Forwarded message -- From: C P Tarun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Mar 14, 2007 9:33 PM Subject: Re: gEDA-user: Hi first post To: gEDA user mailing list Guys, Can you ple

Re: gEDA-user: Re: Hi.... first post

2007-03-14 Thread C P Tarun
My Active crossover designe might be interested for you... if not, just ignore. http://web.interware.hu/lekovacs/xover/index.html Very interesting, thanks. I've bookmarked the page; will read it over the next few days and check out your gschem and PCB files. -- __

Re: gEDA-user: Hi.... first post

2007-03-14 Thread C P Tarun
Guys, Can you please help me with one part of my original question? 1. When I load the netlist into the PCB program, it gives errors saying that it couldn't find pins with the names given in the footprints, or some such thing. Just try loading my .pcb file first, then try loading t

Re: gEDA-user: Hi.... first post

2007-03-13 Thread C P Tarun
2. Yes, lots of people call for heavy symbols, in which each symbol calls out a specific footprint, and there's no discrepancy between pinnumber on the symbol and on the footprint. Hmmm... I think this is the approach which is "safest" for a novice designer like me. I guess I'll just roll my ow

Re: gEDA-user: Hi.... first post

2007-03-13 Thread C P Tarun
I use a part that has a NPN and a PNP in one package. Six leads, six position numbers, 2 C's, 2 B's, 2 E's. How would you deal with that? For any device other than transistors, I guess numbers are fine. After all, for those devices, you don't have a universally accepted single symbol which i

Re: gEDA-user: Some footprints I tried to create

2007-03-13 Thread C P Tarun
> 8. I wanted elongated pins/pads for some of the higher-current > devices. So I incorporated them. I don't know whether it'll > work in reality when I include the device in PCB. I haven't yet > generated Gerbers and checked. Should, if the pads and pins have the same number. Can m

Re: gEDA-user: Some footprints I tried to create

2007-03-13 Thread C P Tarun
> Yes, I saw the notes on gedasymbols.org, and also wrote to DJ > asking him for a CVS upload account on his site. He hasn't yet > gotten around to replying. Only because I didn't see it, please send again. Just did. Hope it reaches this time. > I've already begun. I wish there was a "footpri

Re: gEDA-user: Hi.... first post

2007-03-13 Thread C P Tarun
Yeah, like John pointed out this is a problem with the symbol ${geda install dir}/share/gEDA/sym/analog/npn-2.sym. It uses B, C, and E as the pin numbers. The pinnumber needs to be a number, and the numbers should correspond to the numbers on the footprint you want to use. Even if I assume tha

Re: gEDA-user: Hi.... first post

2007-03-13 Thread C P Tarun
Thanks, all of you. I really appreciate the help. Am feeling a lot more relieved. I now realise that just like I like my own resistors and capacitor footprints more than the ones I found in the PCB libraries, I will probably need to build my own edited collection of gschem symbols. I can live wit

Re: gEDA-user: Hi.... first post

2007-03-13 Thread C P Tarun
And here's your netlist: unnamed_net2R2-2 Q1-B R1-2 unnamed_net1R1-1 C1-2 siggnd R2-1 Q2-E Q1-E C1-1 So what's wrong? Q1-B, Q1-E and Q2-E all exist, as in your schematic; the other connections don't. I may be dense, but I don't see any problem with what you have.. You're not den

Re: gEDA-user: Hi.... first post

2007-03-13 Thread C P Tarun
> What I really need to know is how did this happen? When using gschem, I > tried moving each transistor to check whether the nets were connected to > the pins or not, and they moved with the symbol, showing connection. > After that, why did the connections not show up in the netlist? They did sh

Re: gEDA-user: Hi.... first post

2007-03-13 Thread C P Tarun
Your netlist at http://www.dhandanought.org/tcpip/audio/EXP/geda-probs/test-schem.net does have all the connections made in the schematic The schematic shows no connection to B or C on the transistors. siggnd has Q2-E which is all there is for Q2. Simple as that. Q2 pin E is connected to n

Re: gEDA-user: Some footprints I tried to create

2007-03-13 Thread C P Tarun
Stuart, Thanks for a very helpful response. 1. Although it's not (yet) mandatory, we usually suggest that footprints use .fp as a file suffix. Yes, I saw the notes on gedasymbols.org, and also wrote to DJ asking him for a CVS upload account on his site. He hasn't yet gotten around to replyin

Re: gEDA-user: Hi.... first post

2007-03-13 Thread C P Tarun
Welcome ! Read your post on diyaudio as well. I am active as blu_line over there. Kewl!! So we diy audio guys do have some presence in the geda gang after all! Great. :) Hope to see interesting circuits built using geda. I'm waiting for the time I'll get my first audio circuits done using gsche

gEDA-user: Some footprints I tried to create

2007-03-13 Thread C P Tarun
I have tried to create some common footprints in PCB, partly just to learn how this thing works. Since I have some experience with Eagle, I liked the footprints in their library. So I saw the footprints for common components in PCB and didn't like their barebones shapes, and decided to create som

gEDA-user: Hi.... first post

2007-03-13 Thread C P Tarun
Hi guys, I'm new to this list, and I've just begun exploring gschem and PCB a week or so back. Thought I'd introduce myself. I am an engineer by qualification and am interested in audio system building. Hence my need for a circuit design environment. I have used Eagle (the free version) for a fe