gEDA-user: How To Unsubscribe?

2006-10-21 Thread User Tomdean
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gEDA-user: PAL/PLD Question

2006-09-12 Thread User Tomdean
I have not been involved with PAL/PLD's for 10 years. Then, we used ABEL, etc., in the programming process. Is it possible to synthesize logic for PAL/PLD devices with gnetlist and iverilog? I am particularly interested in the 16V8. I use FreeBSD, and, have the ports tree. tomdean ___

Re: gEDA-user: Fun challenge: cat-5 cable tester

2006-08-29 Thread User Tomdean
How about 4 diodes and current limiting resistors? tomdean v 20060123 1 C 11100 37100 1 0 0 ATtiny28_DIP.sym { T 13500 43000 5 10 1 1 0 6 1 refdes=U? } C 15700 40500 1 0 0 diode-1.sym { T 16000 41000 5 10 1 1 0 0 1 refdes=D? } C 14600 40600 1 0 0 resistor-1.sym { T 14800 40900 5 10 1 1 0 0 1 refd

Re: gEDA-user: Spice Transmission Line Simulation Question

2006-08-07 Thread User Tomdean
The spice3f5 help panel on lossy transmission lines states: 3.3.3. Lossy Transmission Line Model (LTRA) The uniform RLC/RC/LC/RG transmission line model (re- ferred to as the LTRA model henceforth) models a uniform constant-parameter distributed transmission line. The RC and

Re: gEDA-user: Spice Transmission Line Simulation Question

2006-08-07 Thread User Tomdean
Thanks for the replies. I have not looked into this type analysis for some 20 years. I still have my Terman reference! The value/unit is specified in the Spice 3f5 help pages. I used the value/foot specifications for Belden 9914 Coax and specified the length in feet. I added the center conduct

Re: gEDA-user: Spice Transmission Line Simulation Question

2006-08-06 Thread User Tomdean
I suspected I did not need two lines to model a normal coax at reasonable frequencies. Thank you. Why are my results very different than I see in practice? Is there a better model? tomdean ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://w

gEDA-user: Spice Transmission Line Simulation Question

2006-08-06 Thread User Tomdean
I am using Spice 3f5, attempting to model a coax line. I am a nubie at this. The lossless example uses two lines to model one coax. Do I need to do this with the ltra model? It does not seem to make a difference. I get funny results. I use ac dec 100 1 1000meg plot db(v(4)/v(2)) I see what

Re: gEDA-user: Hiearchy

2006-08-03 Thread User Tomdean
That was it. source-library. Thanks. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user

Re: gEDA-user: Hiearchy

2006-08-03 Thread User Tomdean
I put gafrc in $HOME/.gEDA tomdean ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user

gEDA-user: Hiearchy

2006-08-03 Thread User Tomdean
I am having problems with hiearchy. I want to have a hiearchy with an inout bus and a couple in and out pins. So, I created a symbol and associated schematic, counter below. The symbol has pins, and a source attribute. I have (component-library "./") in my ~/.gEDA/gafrc. I created a schematic,

gEDA-user: Spice Jfet Model Strangeness

2006-08-01 Thread User Tomdean
I know little about jfet's. So, I started playing with a model I took from onsemi. The only parameter I can match to the datasheet is VTO. I tried dc v2 -1 1 .1 and looked at v1#branch and v2#branch. Not what I expected. So, I think I am doing something wrong. tomdean .MODEL 2n5486 njf (

Re: gEDA-user: Gschem Random Segmentation Fault - Autosave

2006-08-01 Thread User Tomdean
More random segment faults. Gdb points to autosave(). This seems to happen more often when I have (component-library "/usr/home/tomdean/cad/sym") in ~/.geda/gafrc Any ideas? tomdean ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.se

gEDA-user: Spice Question

2006-07-30 Thread User Tomdean
I have a lf353 model, below, included in a .sch, also below. I use gnetlist -g spice.sdb xxx.sch. I get an output that looks OK. Op and dc produce what I expect. However, ac and tran do not. dc v101 -1 +1 .001 plot vout shows linear ramp, gain=10 ac dec 100 1 10meg plot vout shows horizona

gEDA-user: Contributed AD1868N

2006-07-29 Thread User Tomdean
I filled out the contribution page, but, have some questions. I don't know what library this belongs in. It is a serial-in, 18-bit, dual channel audio ADC. Also, I have three pins, 15 VsL - A supply voltage that may be different than Vcc. I have pintype pwr. 9 VsR - A supply vol

gEDA-user: Gschem Random Segmentation Fault - Autosave

2006-07-26 Thread User Tomdean
I have been seeing a random signal 11, Segmentation fault in gschem for the past few days. I cannot pin it down to any action on my part. Often it happens when gschem does not have focus. Other times it happens when I am doing something with gschem, but, never the same thing, as far as I can tell

gEDA-user: FIXED (Re: PCB + Loadint Net )

2006-07-26 Thread User Tomdean
Thanks, Dan. I updated to 20060422. I can load the netlist. tomdean For FreeBSD, --- Makefile~ Sun Jul 9 23:38:55 2006 +++ MakefileWed Jul 26 14:37:44 2006 @@ -6,7 +6,7 @@ # PORTNAME= pcb -PORTVERSION= 20060414 +PORTVERSION= 20060422 CATEGORIES=cad MASTER_SITES= ${MAS

Re: gEDA-user: Re: PCB + Loadint Net

2006-07-26 Thread User Tomdean
I applied the patch to src/file.c, rebuilt and reinstalled pcb. No change! Something is strange with my installation. I will rebuild everything related to pcb. ===> pcb-20060414 depends on executable: gm4 - found ===> pcb-20060414 depends on executable: gmake - found ===> pcb-20060414 dep

Re: gEDA-user: Re: PCB + Loadint Net

2006-07-26 Thread User Tomdean
I deleted the file, then did file->save layout. >From the tutorial, # pcb board.pcb select->disperse all elements drag U101 to a new location file->save layout file->quit program OK to lose data? - seems to be a disconnect here ... file->save layout as xx.pcb click open

Re: gEDA-user: Re: PCB + Loadint Net

2006-07-26 Thread User Tomdean
I have some other strangeness. From the tutorial, one.sch, two.sch, and project file. # gsch2pcb project - seems OK. # pcb board.pcb - loads all elements stacked in the upper left cornet file->save layout - closes popup, but, does NOT write a file! select->disperse all elements file->quit p

Re: gEDA-user: Re: PCB + Loadint Net

2006-07-26 Thread User Tomdean
I tried file->load netlist file highlight board.net click open The load popup closed, no messages, nothing. window->message log is empty connects->optimize rats nest log window pops up with 'Can't add rat lines because no netlist is loaded.' file->load v

Re: gEDA-user: Re: PCB + Loadint Net

2006-07-26 Thread User Tomdean
Anyone have an idea why I cannot reproduce the tutorial on my system? tomdean ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user

gEDA-user: PCB + Loading Netlist

2006-07-25 Thread User Tomdean
I cannot reproduce the tutorial pcb. Are the .pcb and .net files from gsch2pcb available? If not, can someone post them? tomdean ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user

Re: gEDA-user: Gnetlist Scheme Files

2006-07-23 Thread User Tomdean
I zapped all that - actually copied all of usr/local/share/gEDA to ~/cad/gEDA and set the environment variables GEDADATA[RC] to point there. Things worked. I later zapped all that. I created a gnetlistrc containing (scheme-directory "/usr/home/tomdean/cad/verilog/work") I copied gnetlist.scm

Re: gEDA-user: Gnetlist Verilog

2006-07-22 Thread User Tomdean
My goal is to do slot-level simulation, to use a gschem term. I started with an existing schematic. After jumping thru several hoops, I am still not there. The library for common ttl components may be more difficult than it first appears. Maybe the better way to go is the verilog library... Ne

Re: gEDA-user: Gnetlist Verilog

2006-07-22 Thread User Tomdean
It looks like if I change all symbols to contain an attribute VERILOG_PORTS=POSITIONAL the pin number will be commented out. I want to avoid having two symbols for everything. I am looking into something to carry over positional from the top level schematic. tomdean _

gEDA-user: Gnetlist Scheme Files

2006-07-22 Thread User Tomdean
I want gnetlist to use a scheme file other than in /usr/local/share/gEDA/scheme. I installed a local copy of gnetlist. ./configure --prefix=/usr/home/tomdean/cad/gEDA \ --exec-prefix=/usr/home/tomdean/cad/gEDA I have a local gafrc containing (scheme-directory "/usr/home/tomdean/cad

gEDA-user: Gnetlist Verilog

2006-07-22 Thread User Tomdean
How do I cause 'gnetlist -g verilog' to pick up the pinlabel rather than the pin number for the module port name? Is there a doc that describes the flow in gnetlist? tomdean ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-b

Re: gEDA-user: Iverilog

2006-07-21 Thread User Tomdean
That was it. I renamed everything .v and now, it finds all the modules. Thanks, tomdean ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user

Re: gEDA-user: Iverilog

2006-07-21 Thread User Tomdean
I tried the -y switch. I have a directory ../modules with files like ver_7400 containing module ver_7400(O,A,B); ... endmodule My source file contains ver_7400 U8 (...) iverilog -y ../modules source.vl complains source.vl:54: error: Unknown module type: ver_7400 ... I tried iveril

Re: gEDA-user: Re: PCB + Loadint Net

2006-07-21 Thread User Tomdean
I tried the tutorial - same result. Here is the pcb file. tomdean = # release: pcb 1.6.3 PCB("" 6000 5000) Grid(10 0 0) Cursor(10 270 3) Flags(0x00d0) Groups("1,2,3,s:4,5,6,c:7:8:") Styles("Signal,10,40,20:Power,25,60,35:Fat,40,60,35:Skinny,

Re: gEDA-user: Re: PCB + Loadint Net

2006-07-21 Thread User Tomdean
Pcb displays no messages on the terminal. I started fresh. Same result. The result of the commands attached, as well as some version information, .sch, .net. tomdean === gschem === # gschem mytest.sch& [3] 50267 gEDA/gschem version 20

Re: gEDA-user: Re: PCB + Loadint Net

2006-07-21 Thread User Tomdean
No, I did not get a little window with the netlist. When I selected the .net file from the pop-up and clicked open, the window closed. Nothing appeared in the log window. windopw->netlist does not appear to do anything. tomdean ___ geda-user mailing

gEDA-user: PCB + Loadint Net

2006-07-21 Thread User Tomdean
I am a newbie w/ PCB. I created a schematic with gschem. Gnetlist -g drc2 reports a couple mis-matched pins, passive connected to input, etc. Gnetlist -g geda produces a correct looking listing. gsch2pcb reports no errors. The resulting .net looks OK. Pcb only complained of no font informatio

gEDA-user: Iverilog

2006-07-21 Thread User Tomdean
Is this off topic? How do I cause iverilog to pick up modules from files? I tried '-I../modules' I created a schematic with device equal to the verilog file containing the module definition. For example, in gschem, device ver_7474 in the file, ../modules/ver_7474 module ver_747

gEDA-user: Gnetlist Verilog

2006-07-19 Thread User Tomdean
How do I generate verilog with gnetlist? I have a simple schematic with a 7400 and a 7474, below. I used gnetlist -g verilog -o test.vl test.sch. Gnetlist complains of pin numbers not being valid identifiers. I made symbols with pintype CHIPIN, CHIPOUT, etc., naming these 7400-vl.sym and 7474-v

Re: gEDA-user: gEDA - gschem 20060123 Failure

2006-06-12 Thread User Tomdean
> Sounds like the infamous slice bug. Try: > export G_SLICE=always-malloc Thanks, that seemed to fix the problem. tomdean ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user

Re: gEDA-user: gEDA - gschem 20060123 Failure

2006-06-12 Thread User Tomdean
I had a core dump on exit from gEDA 20050313, installed from the FreeBSD potrs tree. I changed the Makefiles to use gEDA 20060123, including libgeda.so.25. Building and installing gEDA 20060123 reported no errors. Starting gschem seems OK. On exit, I get Segmentation fault (core dumped)

Re: gEDA-user: gEDA - gschem 20060123 Failure

2006-06-11 Thread User Tomdean
Thanks for the reply, I went back to the FreeBSD port, 20050313. With that, I get a core dump on exit, and sometimes a dump with I hit delete! Looking at some other things, I have some funny things happening. Like, the copy buffer in X. If I highlight text in one window and try to paste it into