On Apr 3, 2007, at 2:04 PM, Ryan Seal wrote:
If you are familiar with C I'd suggest a microcontroller that is
capable of being programmed in C, assembly can be tighter and
cleaner, but that takes practice.
I am fond of the Atmel AVR series, and the GCC tool chain that
goes along with it, i
As an aside for the r8c, I have a .pcb file for an eval board for the
R8C sdip-20 chips, which breaks out the chip to 100 mil headers and
includes the oscillator:
http://www.delorie.com/pcb/r8c-1b-adapter/
Renesas was almost giving away the starterkits for them a while back.
Digikey carr
On Tuesday 03 April 2007 14:04, Ryan Seal wrote:
> I also like the microchip PIC line. CCS offers a nice
> compiler in Linux for about 80 bucks (with a student
> discount) - but, if you are new to all of this, I would
> second the motion for the Atmel AVR series as well; since
> they offer the gcc
> I have seen DJ Delorie using the R8C from Renasas, and I see that
> they are also using a GCC tool chain. They look like a nice part as
> well.
The whole R8C/M16C/M32C family is a sweet set, everything from 20 pin
$3 to 144 pin chips at $42, with flash ranging from a few Kb to 1Mb.
All with a
If you are familiar with C I'd suggest a microcontroller that is
capable of being programmed in C, assembly can be tighter and cleaner,
but that takes practice.
I am fond of the Atmel AVR series, and the GCC tool chain that goes
along with it, it is also convient for OS X and Linux users, as
ke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2007 10:44:09
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Subject: Re: gEDA-user: Design Lab Equipment
I second this motion! basic stamps have nice small simple boards,
the drawback i have with them is I didn't want to learn another
variant of basic.
I second this motion! basic stamps have nice small simple boards,
the drawback i have with them is I didn't want to learn another
variant of basic.
If you are familiar with C I'd suggest a microcontroller that is
capable of being programmed in C, assembly can be tighter and
cleaner
Dave McGuire wrote:
>
> I will warn you, please listen...DO NOT expect to pick this up
> overnight, or even in a few weeks. There is a lot going on in those
> little components, and a lot of stuff to be aware of. I admire your
> desire to "dive in" and start doing things, but it's very importa
> Does he still use ABEL?
> The last edition I saw did, but also had some VHDL.
Dunno, I only have the 2nd edition (1994 or so IIRC).
MS
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On Tuesday 03 April 2007 12:23, Michael Sokolov wrote:
> _Digital Design: Principles and Practices_ by John Wakerly is
> my favourite.
Does he still use ABEL?
The last edition I saw did, but also had some VHDL.
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_Digital Design: Principles and Practices_ by John Wakerly is my
favourite.
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On Apr 3, 2007, at 9:29 AM, Felipe Balbi wrote:
Hmm... Nice...
Actually, I'm Engineering studying... so.. that's my 4-year
studying...
But, I want to get it started now... Wanna understand how to design
the correct interfaces... where to use capacitors, resistors,
inductors, etc... How to int
On Apr 3, 2007, at 6:46 AM, Dan McMahill wrote:
Peter Clifton wrote:
On Sat, 2007-03-31 at 17:53 -0400, al davis wrote:
How about .,,.. transistor curve tracer. How much do they
cost? Why doesn't every college EE department have one on every
bench?
I think of the old 4th-year engineerin
On 4/3/07, Felipe Balbi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hmm...
I think my question is could regard this thread...
Where can I learn how to design Electronic Circuits?? Is there a good
"quick start guide" book ?
I want to design some simple 8051 applications for my studying
kick-off... After that I w
Hmm... Nice...
Actually, I'm Engineering studying... so.. that's my 4-year studying...
But, I want to get it started now... Wanna understand how to design
the correct interfaces... where to use capacitors, resistors,
inductors, etc... How to interface a PIC or 8051 with an LCD... How to
design a
On Apr 3, 2007, at 7:03 AM, Felipe Balbi wrote:
Hmm...
I think my question is could regard this thread...
Where can I learn how to design Electronic Circuits?? Is there a good
"quick start guide" book ?
Horowitz and Hill, "The Art of Electronics". Best ever.
I want to design some simple 8
e Balbi
> Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2007 9:04 AM
> To: gEDA user mailing list
> Subject: Re: gEDA-user: Design Lab Equipment
>
> Hmm...
> I think my question is could regard this thread...
>
> Where can I learn how to design Electronic Circuits?? Is
> there a good "q
Hmm...
I think my question is could regard this thread...
Where can I learn how to design Electronic Circuits?? Is there a good
"quick start guide" book ?
I want to design some simple 8051 applications for my studying
kick-off... After that I would try to design better (more complicated)
circuit
Peter Clifton wrote:
On Sat, 2007-03-31 at 17:53 -0400, al davis wrote:
How about .,,.. transistor curve tracer. How much do they
cost? Why doesn't every college EE department have one on
every bench?
I think of the old 4th-year engineering project my supervisor has in his
office - a va
On Apr 1, 2007, at 10:42 AM, John Griessen wrote:
I'll look at your schematic soon. Al was surely thinking of
a full analog curve tracer "like Heathkit made". A USB powered
one would not be as much
device-smokin' fun...
A powered curve tracer with an ethernet port to automate it would
be
What do you guys think?
Steve
I think this idea has you enthused!
I'll look at your schematic soon. Al was surely thinking of
a full analog curve tracer "like Heathkit made". A USB powered one would not
be as much
device-smokin' fun...
A powered curve tracer with an ethernet port to automa
On Mar 31, 2007, at 7:43 PM, al davis wrote:
On Saturday 31 March 2007 21:42, John Griessen wrote:
If you supplied a college purchasing dept with assembled
units, I imagine you'd get into ETL/UL testing for lab levels
of safety though.Would University purchasing agents
reject kits?
The p
On Saturday 31 March 2007 21:42, John Griessen wrote:
> If you supplied a college purchasing dept with assembled
> units, I imagine you'd get into ETL/UL testing for lab levels
> of safety though. Would University purchasing agents
> reject kits?
The purchasing dept has no clue. It is up to th
al davis wrote:
What is "quality"?
The idea is to make simple equipment that isn't available.
How about .,,.. transistor curve tracer.
Thinking of a college lab, if it
goes to 30 volts, 100 ma, that's plenty.
Having been a professor, and taught many college labs, I see
many opportun
On Saturday 31 March 2007 18:04, Peter Clifton wrote:
> There are still a few out there who understand valves - and
> build valve-amps etc. (sadly I'm not one of them, but I have
> a few collected... I own 3x 15kW plate dissipation triodes -
> from old RF induction heating kit ;)
They are really n
On Sat, 2007-03-31 at 17:53 -0400, al davis wrote:
> How about .,,.. transistor curve tracer. How much do they
> cost? Why doesn't every college EE department have one on
> every bench?
I think of the old 4th-year engineering project my supervisor has in his
office - a valve characterising c
On Saturday 31 March 2007 15:57, John Griessen wrote:
> Mainly though, no one is going to succeed with a kit product
> based on anything but high performance and quality. Competing
> on cost by having low quality won't work.
What is "quality"?
It depends what you want to do. It is like software
On Mar 31, 2007, at 2:08 PM, John Griessen wrote:
Steven Michalske wrote:
There's another reason for no plating. What is that shiny
plating on those commodity test leads? Hmmm
Laws of intermediate metals don't apply to mystery metals, do they?
It applies to all metals, even alloys. I
Steven Michalske wrote:
There's another reason for no plating. What is that shiny plating on
those commodity test leads? Hmmm
Laws of intermediate metals don't apply to mystery metals, do they?
It applies to all metals, even alloys. It is all to do with the vacuum
levels of the atoms
On Mar 31, 2007, at 12:57 PM, John Griessen wrote:
Steven Michalske wrote:
Plating is important to prevent corrosion. It is required. Un-
plated vs plated is not going to make a positive performance impact.
I could talk about thermoelectric effects all day, i'll stop for now.
I read an a
Steven Michalske wrote:
Plating is important to prevent corrosion. It is required. Un-plated
vs plated is not going to make a positive performance impact.
I could talk about thermoelectric effects all day, i'll stop for now.
I read an article about sub 1 PPM measurements where they preferr
On Mar 31, 2007, at 12:16 PM, John Griessen wrote:
al davis wrote:
How about lab test equipment. There is a real need for simple
stuff that is too simple to market at the high prices the big
instrument companies need to charge. The kind of equipment you
need in a home lab. Like Heathk
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