Re: gEDA-user: Schematic Capture to dxf File - using gEDA, Inkscape, and pstoedit

2010-01-27 Thread Alberto Maccioni
Hello, some time ago I posted some code to add an export gui that produces directly a cnc G-CODE file. Maybe you want to try that also. Best regards, Alberto ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listin

Re: gEDA-user: Schematic Capture to dxf File - using gEDA, Inkscape, and pstoedit

2010-01-27 Thread Bert Timmerman
Hi Dave, > -Original Message- > From: geda-user-boun...@moria.seul.org > [mailto:geda-user-boun...@moria.seul.org] On Behalf Of d...@umich.edu > Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 11:35 PM > To: gEDA user mailing list > Subject: Re: gEDA-user: Schematic Capture t

Re: gEDA-user: Schematic Capture to dxf File - using gEDA, Inkscape, and pstoedit

2010-01-27 Thread dfro
Bert Timmerman wrote: Hi Dave N6NZ, d...@umich.edu, FWIW, There lives a dxf exporter for pcb in a not yet finished state at: http://github.com/bert/pcb-dxf-hid Maybe something to look at for you guys. I have ample time for further development on this exporter in the foreseeable future, so yo

Re: gEDA-user: Schematic Capture to dxf File - using gEDA, Inkscape, and pstoedit

2010-01-26 Thread Dave N6NZ
On Jan 26, 2010, at 11:25 PM, Bert Timmerman wrote: > > FWIW, There lives a dxf exporter for pcb in a not yet finished state at: > > http://github.com/bert/pcb-dxf-hid Thanks, I wasn't aware of that. -dave ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@mori

Re: gEDA-user: Schematic Capture to dxf File - using gEDA, Inkscape, and pstoedit

2010-01-26 Thread Bert Timmerman
Hi Dave N6NZ, d...@umich.edu, > -Original Message- > From: geda-user-boun...@moria.seul.org > [mailto:geda-user-boun...@moria.seul.org] On Behalf Of d...@umich.edu > Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 8:14 AM > To: gEDA user mailing list > Subject: Re: gEDA-user: Schema

Re: gEDA-user: Schematic Capture to dxf File - using gEDA, Inkscape, and pstoedit

2010-01-26 Thread dfro
Dave N6NZ wrote: On Jan 21, 2010, at 1:08 PM, d...@umich.edu wrote: If you convert the backmask or the frontmask files either with the 'gEDA/pcb to dxf' route or the 'Gerber to dxf', you can very quickly have your solder paste mask. Almost. There *is* a paste layer, although it isn't very

Re: gEDA-user: Schematic Capture to dxf File - using gEDA, Inkscape, and pstoedit

2010-01-25 Thread Dave N6NZ
On Jan 24, 2010, at 3:40 PM, d...@umich.edu wrote: > > Dave, > > I have been following the RepRap project with interest. A 3D printer that > anyone can make is a very cool scratch to itch. I am fascinated by the > artwork of the sculpter, Bathsheba Grossman. She really shows what is > possi

Re: gEDA-user: Schematic Capture to dxf File - using gEDA, Inkscape, and pstoedit

2010-01-24 Thread dfro
Dave N6NZ wrote: On Jan 24, 2010, at 4:43 AM, Bob Paddock wrote: CO2 laser is the wrong wavelength to cut metal. Only a couple percent of the radiation is absorbed. Great for plastics, though, and many other materials. With respect to >PCB etching, one thing I've thought about but haven't y

Re: gEDA-user: Schematic Capture to dxf File - using gEDA, Inkscape, and pstoedit

2010-01-24 Thread John Doty
On Jan 24, 2010, at 11:04 AM, Bob Paddock wrote: For a different application I've been looking for 100% Black Paint for years, any one make it yet? It's what they (whoever they are) point the cores of galaxies with ;-) John Doty Noqsi Aerospace, Ltd. http://www.noqsi.com/ j...

Re: gEDA-user: Schematic Capture to dxf File - using gEDA, Inkscape, and pstoedit

2010-01-24 Thread Windell H. Oskay
On Jan 24, 2010, at 8:39 AM, Dave N6NZ wrote: Now that will depend on your photochemistry. CO2 laser is not in the visible spectrum. You'd have to check the sensitivity of the photo emulsion w.r.t. wavelength. Most litho films are not sensitive even to red, but do go up into ultra-violet

Re: gEDA-user: Schematic Capture to dxf File - using gEDA, Inkscape, and pstoedit

2010-01-24 Thread Dave N6NZ
On Jan 24, 2010, at 9:15 AM, John Doty wrote: > > > CO2 is way out in the IR. I guess the way to use it is to vaporize the > resist. Note that black in the visible may not be black at the IR wavelength > in question, and vice-versa Good point... I should have remembered that because I was pa

Re: gEDA-user: Schematic Capture to dxf File - using gEDA, Inkscape, and pstoedit

2010-01-24 Thread Bob Paddock
>. Note that black in the visible may not be black at the IR wavelength > in question, and vice-versa. For a different application I've been looking for 100% Black Paint for years, any one make it yet? -- http://www.wearablesmartsensors.com/ http://www.softwaresafety.net/ http://www.designer-iii

Re: gEDA-user: Schematic Capture to dxf File - using gEDA, Inkscape, and pstoedit

2010-01-24 Thread John Doty
On Jan 24, 2010, at 9:39 AM, Dave N6NZ wrote: On Jan 24, 2010, at 4:43 AM, Bob Paddock wrote: CO2 laser is the wrong wavelength to cut metal. Only a couple percent of the radiation is absorbed. Great for plastics, though, and many other materials. With respect to >PCB etching, one thi

Re: gEDA-user: Schematic Capture to dxf File - using gEDA, Inkscape, and pstoedit

2010-01-24 Thread Dave N6NZ
On Jan 24, 2010, at 4:43 AM, Bob Paddock wrote: >> CO2 laser is the wrong wavelength to cut metal. Only a couple percent of >> the radiation is absorbed. Great for plastics, though, and many other >> materials. With respect to >PCB etching, one thing I've thought about but >> haven't yet tri

Re: gEDA-user: Schematic Capture to dxf File - using gEDA, Inkscape, and pstoedit

2010-01-24 Thread Bob Paddock
>CO2 laser is the wrong wavelength to cut metal.  Only a couple percent of the >radiation is absorbed. Great for plastics, though, and many other materials.   >With respect to >PCB etching, one thing I've thought about but haven't yet >tried is simply using paint.  Apply a thin code of flat black

Re: gEDA-user: Schematic Capture to dxf File - using gEDA, Inkscape, and pstoedit

2010-01-23 Thread Dave N6NZ
On Jan 23, 2010, at 3:51 PM, Windell H. Oskay wrote: > We have an Epilog. Low-power lasers of this type cannot cut (or even etch) > copper foil, nor can they cut FR4. > > You can potentially use it to blast away an etch-resist layer, however; I've > seen several examples of this. > Here is on

Re: gEDA-user: Schematic Capture to dxf File - using gEDA, Inkscape, and pstoedit

2010-01-23 Thread Dave N6NZ
On Jan 23, 2010, at 12:10 PM, Bob Paddock wrote: >> Management saw > this: http://www.epiloglaser.com/ at CES and is thinking of spending > money (a rare event) > on one of them. There actually is a lot of industrial related stuff > at the consumer show. I've used modern Epilog machines, and

Re: gEDA-user: Schematic Capture to dxf File - using gEDA, Inkscape, and pstoedit

2010-01-23 Thread Ben Jackson
On Sat, Jan 23, 2010 at 03:51:50PM -0800, Windell H. Oskay wrote: > We have an Epilog. Low-power lasers of this type cannot cut (or even > etch) copper foil, nor can they cut FR4. Even the new one Techshop Portland just got (cuts 1.25" acrylic in one pass) can't make PCBs directly. But it did

Re: gEDA-user: Schematic Capture to dxf File - using gEDA, Inkscape, and pstoedit

2010-01-23 Thread Windell H. Oskay
We have an Epilog. Low-power lasers of this type cannot cut (or even etch) copper foil, nor can they cut FR4. You can potentially use it to blast away an etch-resist layer, however; I've seen several examples of this. Here is one: http://www.cnczone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=41222 -Winde

Re: gEDA-user: Schematic Capture to dxf File - using gEDA, Inkscape, and pstoedit

2010-01-23 Thread Bob Paddock
> Seriously its 2010, even hardcore open-source hippies should be able > to afford a decent board house, there are practically no uses for > single-sided-non-pth-boards and the number of any kind of important > components made in through-hole form factor is decreasing by the > month. Sometimes you

Re: gEDA-user: Schematic Capture to dxf File - using gEDA, Inkscape, and pstoedit

2010-01-23 Thread dfro
I added this post at: http://www.cnczone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=97677 I have tweaked the process a little to get a better result in Inkscape. Rob, at the Inkscape forum offered some help: http://www.inkscapeforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=4279 He, thinks that the 'Stroke to Path' problem

Re: gEDA-user: Schematic Capture to dxf File - using gEDA, Inkscape, and pstoedit

2010-01-21 Thread dfro
Dave N6NZ wrote: The postscript file is a kludgy intermediate step that needs to be eradicated in the 'clean' solution. -dave n6nz That makes sense. I do agree that having a conversion to dxf in gerbv is a good idea. I think it would attract a lot of people to gEDA who are using Eagle a

Re: gEDA-user: Schematic Capture to dxf File - using gEDA, Inkscape, and pstoedit

2010-01-21 Thread dfro
Dave and Peter, How about this? d...@umich.edu wrote: If you are interested in writing some code to add a dxf conversion button to pcb and gerbv, maybe trying these two methods on a few of your own pcb images will give you some ideas. I think creating a backend program that both pcb and ge

Re: gEDA-user: Schematic Capture to dxf File - using gEDA, Inkscape, and pstoedit

2010-01-21 Thread Dave N6NZ
On Jan 21, 2010, at 1:08 PM, d...@umich.edu wrote: > An alternate place in the software tool chain to put a 'DXF' button could be > in gEDA's gerber viewer program - gerbv. Under gerbv's 'File' menu, there is > an 'Export' command, which gives you the choices to save the file as a PNG, > PDF,

Re: gEDA-user: Schematic Capture to dxf File - using gEDA, Inkscape, and pstoedit

2010-01-21 Thread dfro
For those of you doubting that quality two sided pcb's can be milled on a home shop machine, check out these links: Pics: http://millpcbs.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=25&Itemid=67 http://millpcbs.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=26&Itemid=68 http://millpcbs.c

Re: gEDA-user: Schematic Capture to dxf File - using gEDA, Inkscape, and pstoedit

2010-01-21 Thread Dave N6NZ
On Jan 21, 2010, at 12:28 PM, Peter Clifton wrote: >> I believe gerbv is the right place for dxf export, since that creates >> a tool that works with any gerber file from any tool. The overall >> tool flow is more logical that way. > > Keep it modular enough, and it could live in PCB as well..

Re: gEDA-user: Schematic Capture to dxf File - using gEDA, Inkscape, and pstoedit

2010-01-21 Thread dfro
Here are some additional posts I added to: http://www.cnczone.com/forums/showthread.php?p=722034#post722034 **Post 1** An alternate place in the software tool chain to put a 'DXF' button could be in gEDA's gerber viewer program - gerbv. Under gerbv's 'File' menu, there is an 'Export' command

Re: gEDA-user: Schematic Capture to dxf File - using gEDA, Inkscape, and pstoedit

2010-01-21 Thread Peter Clifton
On Thu, 2010-01-21 at 11:47 -0800, Dave N6NZ wrote: > Upon reflection, it still seems to me that the correct place in the tool flow > for gerber->dxf is in gerbv, not pcb. I've never looked at the new internals > of gerbv since it has been rewritten and library-ified. So... am I deluded, > or

Re: gEDA-user: Schematic Capture to dxf File - using gEDA, Inkscape, and pstoedit

2010-01-21 Thread Dave N6NZ
On Jan 20, 2010, at 11:52 PM, Ben Jackson wrote: > >>> The polygon code is fully generic. It can do what you describe (in fact, >>> it does, it just probably doesn't output in the format you want). >> >> Hmmm well, point me at the code, and I'll have a look at seeing >> what it would take t

Re: gEDA-user: Schematic Capture to dxf File - using gEDA, Inkscape, and pstoedit

2010-01-20 Thread Ben Jackson
On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 10:55:51PM -0800, Dave N6NZ wrote: > > No, I was concerned about the shape of the pad w.r.t. correct solder reflow. I guess I was assuming that if you were milling a PCB you were prototyping and thus hand assembling. Of course you could still mill individual outlines if y

Re: gEDA-user: Schematic Capture to dxf File - using gEDA, Inkscape, and pstoedit

2010-01-20 Thread Dave N6NZ
On Jan 20, 2010, at 10:14 PM, Ben Jackson wrote: > On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 09:20:34PM -0800, Dave N6NZ wrote: >> On Jan 20, 2010, at 1:01 PM, Ben Jackson wrote: >>> >>> I have been thinking about how to do improved isolation routing. >> >> How do you differentiate between pads that must be a ce

Re: gEDA-user: Schematic Capture to dxf File - using gEDA, Inkscape, and pstoedit

2010-01-20 Thread Ben Jackson
On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 09:20:34PM -0800, Dave N6NZ wrote: > On Jan 20, 2010, at 1:01 PM, Ben Jackson wrote: > > > > I have been thinking about how to do improved isolation routing. > > How do you differentiate between pads that must be a certain shape, like for > an SMT capacitor, and islands t

Re: gEDA-user: Schematic Capture to dxf File - using gEDA, Inkscape, and pstoedit

2010-01-20 Thread Dave N6NZ
On Jan 20, 2010, at 1:01 PM, Ben Jackson wrote: > On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 11:56:25PM -0500, d...@umich.edu wrote: >> >> I just created a thread on cnczone.com, which I want to bring to your >> attention. I titled it, "Schematic Capture to dxf File - using gEDA, >> Inkscape, and pstoedit": > >

Re: gEDA-user: Schematic Capture to dxf File - using gEDA, Inkscape, and pstoedit

2010-01-20 Thread Ben Jackson
On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 11:56:25PM -0500, d...@umich.edu wrote: > > I just created a thread on cnczone.com, which I want to bring to your > attention. I titled it, "Schematic Capture to dxf File - using gEDA, > Inkscape, and pstoedit": I have been thinking about how to do improved isolation rou

Re: gEDA-user: Schematic Capture to dxf File - using gEDA, Inkscape, and pstoedit

2010-01-20 Thread Jason
timecop wrote: I couldn't help but chuckle at your explanation of unconnected ground pours after you said you were milling your boards presumable on a hand-made-out-of-plywood-cnc. kinda like trying to kill a fly with a jackhammer. Your mastery of the english language is truly daunting. ;-)

Re: gEDA-user: Schematic Capture to dxf File - using gEDA, Inkscape, and pstoedit

2010-01-20 Thread Windell H. Oskay
On Jan 20, 2010, at 1:59 AM, timecop wrote: Seriously its 2010, even hardcore open-source hippies should be able to afford a decent board house, there are practically no uses for single-sided-non-pth-boards and the number of any kind of important components made in through-hole form factor is d

Re: gEDA-user: Schematic Capture to dxf File - using gEDA, Inkscape, and pstoedit

2010-01-20 Thread timecop
I couldn't help but chuckle at your explanation of unconnected ground pours after you said you were milling your boards presumable on a hand-made-out-of-plywood-cnc. kinda like trying to kill a fly with a jackhammer. Seriously its 2010, even hardcore open-source hippies should be able to afford a

Re: gEDA-user: Schematic Capture to dxf File - using gEDA, Inkscape, and pstoedit

2010-01-19 Thread Dave N6NZ
Hmmm... interesting. I gave your post a quick skim, and will have to go back to read it in detail when I have more time. A while back I created a flow to convert the paste layer to laser cutter code for the creation of solder paste stencils. My path was: 1. print .ps from pcb 2. pstoedit to cr