Re: gEDA-user: Reducing the amount of jumpers

2009-11-30 Thread DJ Delorie
> > I never plate my vias. I use 13.5 mil holes and 25 mil diameter > > copper, very tiny. > > Wow! You are able to pass a wire larger than the hole? :-) The copper circle on the PCB is 25 mil :-) The wire is more like 12-13 mil. It's about 32 gauge if you take it from 22 gauge 7-strand spe

Re: gEDA-user: Reducing the amount of jumpers

2009-11-30 Thread Gabriel Paubert
On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 08:44:12PM -0500, DJ Delorie wrote: > > I never plate my vias. I use 13.5 mil holes and 25 mil diameter > copper, very tiny. Wow! You are able to pass a wire larger than the hole? :-) Now realistically, thin wire is often sufficient, unless you have very large currents

Re: gEDA-user: Reducing the amount of jumpers

2009-11-29 Thread Ben Jackson
On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 10:15:21PM +0100, Stephan Boettcher wrote: > > Most connections were > later added with wires, the kind of wire used in transformers, I do not > know how it is called in English. That would be enammeled wire or "magnet wire". I can't find the page now, but I saw a guy who

Re: gEDA-user: Reducing the amount of jumpers

2009-11-29 Thread Stephan Boettcher
Link writes: > Since I'm hand-fabbing this and will probably be drawing the lines > with a permanent marker, all traces should be at least 35 mil wide and > have a clearance of 25 mil or greater. I've used that method before; > it's a bit ugly, but it works - for very simple boards, anyway. The

Re: gEDA-user: Reducing the amount of jumpers

2009-11-29 Thread Link
On 29/11/09 02:22, DJ Delorie wrote: > Er, how are you planning on making *any* board at home, without a > laser printer? > > For two layer, just do whatever you do for one layer, but on both > sides. Pre-drill a couple of holes to help you line up the two sides. > > >

Re: gEDA-user: Reducing the amount of jumpers

2009-11-28 Thread Mark Stanley
On Saturday 28 November 2009 20:22:16 DJ Delorie wrote: > Er, how are you planning on making *any* board at home, without a > laser printer? In my pre-laserjet days I went to my local drug store. I would bring my printout and transparency sheet and get photocopies made for 10 cents each. I did

Re: gEDA-user: Reducing the amount of jumpers

2009-11-28 Thread DJ Delorie
I never plate my vias. I use 13.5 mil holes and 25 mil diameter copper, very tiny. I de-strand some 22 gauge speaker wire to get tons of through-board jumper wires and just solder them from one side to the other. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@

Re: gEDA-user: Reducing the amount of jumpers

2009-11-28 Thread asomers
For two layer boards, plating the holes is the hardest part. You can get through-hole rivets, but I've never tried them. One trick is to make a two layer board, but use jumpers to connect the two sides. You just need to make extra large vias with solder pads on each side and then stick a short s

Re: gEDA-user: Reducing the amount of jumpers

2009-11-28 Thread DJ Delorie
Er, how are you planning on making *any* board at home, without a laser printer? For two layer, just do whatever you do for one layer, but on both sides. Pre-drill a couple of holes to help you line up the two sides. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-u

Re: gEDA-user: Reducing the amount of jumpers

2009-11-28 Thread Dave N6NZ
Link wrote: > I've designed a circuit that I'm planning to home-fab, and as such, I've > had to design my board using only a single layer. After about a week or > so of puzzling, I've managed to route it. Unfortunately, it looks like > I'll need a metric craptonne of jumper wire, and I was hopin

Re: gEDA-user: Reducing the amount of jumpers

2009-11-28 Thread Link
On 28/11/09 19:36, DJ Delorie wrote: >> I've designed a circuit that I'm planning to home-fab, and as such, >> I've had to design my board using only a single layer. > > I do 2 and 4 layers at home, no reason why you can't do a double sided > board. Are you using sockets for all the ICs, or solder

Re: gEDA-user: Reducing the amount of jumpers

2009-11-28 Thread DJ Delorie
> I've designed a circuit that I'm planning to home-fab, and as such, > I've had to design my board using only a single layer. I do 2 and 4 layers at home, no reason why you can't do a double sided board. Are you using sockets for all the ICs, or soldering them directly? The regular autorouter

gEDA-user: Reducing the amount of jumpers

2009-11-28 Thread Link
I've designed a circuit that I'm planning to home-fab, and as such, I've had to design my board using only a single layer. After about a week or so of puzzling, I've managed to route it. Unfortunately, it looks like I'll need a metric craptonne of jumper wire, and I was hoping someone could hel