Re: gEDA-user: pcb minor release, C++ and Gtk cleanup

2010-10-01 Thread DJ Delorie
> But I am not really sure if multiple monitors are a real benefit, I have one big main monitor, and a small monitor rotated into portrait mode on each side. The main monitor is for development; the left monitor for email, sticky notes, and music; the right monitor for my various chat windows.

Re: gEDA-user: pcb minor release, C++ and Gtk cleanup

2010-10-01 Thread timecop
> I still have only one monitor, and I wonder how useful working with Is it at least color? > multiple monitors really is. Prices are not really high in these days, > and power consumption is about 20W each, not too much compared with > other hardware. I think the greatest "benefit" is: If your bo

Re: gEDA-user: pcb minor release, C++ and Gtk cleanup

2010-10-01 Thread Stefan Salewski
On Fri, 2010-10-01 at 10:52 -0400, DJ Delorie wrote: > > Do you have an explanation for this? > > Yes. Four monitors with one desktop means there's a lot of overhead I still have only one monitor, and I wonder how useful working with multiple monitors really is. Prices are not really high in the

Re: gEDA-user: pcb minor release, C++ and Gtk cleanup

2010-10-01 Thread DJ Delorie
> Do you have an explanation for this? Yes. Four monitors with one desktop means there's a lot of overhead in the X core, it *really* slows down certain types of operations because the proprietary nvidia drivers don't combine them in hardware. I'm hoping to get the latest nouveau drivers to do a

Re: gEDA-user: pcb minor release, C++ and Gtk cleanup

2010-10-01 Thread Peter Clifton
On Fri, 2010-10-01 at 10:52 +0200, Armin Faltl wrote: > > DJ Delorie wrote: > >> Time to plug-in a graphics card? Almost any nvidia model would do. > >> > > > > I have a pair of Nvidia 9800 GT cards in my box, and yet the plain X > > Lesstif HID still blows everything else away. The cards al

Re: gEDA-user: pcb minor release, C++ and Gtk cleanup

2010-10-01 Thread Peter Clifton
On Fri, 2010-10-01 at 04:16 +0200, kai-martin knaak wrote: > > Peter's branch is still several times slower than elder GUIs > > on all my machines, Sounds like an OpenGL driver problem - it must be using software emulation (or perhaps lack a full range visuals with stencil bits). [snip] > That

Re: gEDA-user: pcb minor release, C++ and Gtk cleanup

2010-10-01 Thread Armin Faltl
DJ Delorie wrote: Time to plug-in a graphics card? Almost any nvidia model would do. I have a pair of Nvidia 9800 GT cards in my box, and yet the plain X Lesstif HID still blows everything else away. The cards alone are only part of the pipeline. Do you have an explanation for this?

Re: gEDA-user: pcb minor release, C++ and Gtk cleanup

2010-09-30 Thread DJ Delorie
> Time to plug-in a graphics card? Almost any nvidia model would do. I have a pair of Nvidia 9800 GT cards in my box, and yet the plain X Lesstif HID still blows everything else away. The cards alone are only part of the pipeline. ___ geda-user maili

Re: gEDA-user: pcb minor release, C++ and Gtk cleanup

2010-09-30 Thread kai-martin knaak
ineiev wrote: >> And please, please apply as much of Peter Cliftons pcb version > I hope this won't break the Lesstif HID. IMHO, "lesstif or GTK" is not connected to "OpenGL or plain X". The first pair is the widget set, which is about buttons, menus and windows. The second is the choice of gr

Re: gEDA-user: pcb minor release, C++ and Gtk cleanup

2010-09-27 Thread ineiev
Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: And please, please apply as much of Peter Cliftons pcb version as possible before you start. It is not only about the openGL and 3D hack for visuals, but a huge bag of little useful improvements. Let's not loose them on the way. I hope this won't break the Lesstif HID.

Re: gEDA-user: pcb minor release, C++ and Gtk cleanup

2010-09-27 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
Andrew Poelstra wrote: > 2. We need to have a minor release (1.99za?) to get all the little > crap out of the pipeline before we break everything. And please, please apply as much of Peter Cliftons pcb version as possible before you start. It is not only about the openGL and 3D hack for v

Re: gEDA-user: pcb minor release, C++ and Gtk cleanup

2010-09-25 Thread DJ Delorie
> Anyway, if there's a code sprint to convert the core of PCB to C++ I'm > in. I've almost done it a few times myself. Newell already did it, there's a patch in the tracker. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-

Re: gEDA-user: pcb minor release, C++ and Gtk cleanup

2010-09-25 Thread DJ Delorie
The blockage at the moment is me. I've got a ton of work to do for Devcon, plus other things taking up time. By mid-october I should have time to do stuff again. My plan is to release pcb-1.99za just to clean up some segfaults and get the importer "released" so that project can be closed out.

Re: gEDA-user: pcb minor release, C++ and Gtk cleanup

2010-09-25 Thread Ben Jackson
On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 11:37:12AM -0700, Andrew Poelstra wrote: > > The list has quieted down these last couple weeks. Last I heard, any > significant work on pcb is essentially blocked, pending a migration > to C++. And before that can happen: Hey, cool. I have been mostly skimming so I must h

gEDA-user: pcb minor release, C++ and Gtk cleanup

2010-09-25 Thread Andrew Poelstra
Hey all, The list has quieted down these last couple weeks. Last I heard, any significant work on pcb is essentially blocked, pending a migration to C++. And before that can happen: 1. DJ needs to assess the existing C++-compatibility patch. 2. We need to have a minor release (1.99za?) to g