Re: gEDA-user: pcb via and ground planes

2009-09-25 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 25 September 2009, gene glick wrote: >DJ Delorie wrote: >> I talked with Dan about it, we seem to think it's better to not use >> the ground plane for the return signal, and route the return the same >> way you route the audio. Think of it like a differential pair. That >> way, you get

Re: gEDA-user: pcb via and ground planes

2009-09-25 Thread gene glick
DJ Delorie wrote: > I talked with Dan about it, we seem to think it's better to not use > the ground plane for the return signal, and route the return the same > way you route the audio. Think of it like a differential pair. That > way, you get current balancing without breaking up your ground pl

Re: gEDA-user: pcb via and ground planes

2009-09-22 Thread gene glick
DJ Delorie wrote: > I talked with Dan about it, we seem to think it's better to not use > the ground plane for the return signal, Just for clarity sake, in this particular area there is not ground plane. Just the ground plane layer. If I had zoomed out, you'd see lots of copper in other areas.

Re: gEDA-user: pcb via and ground planes

2009-09-22 Thread DJ Delorie
I talked with Dan about it, we seem to think it's better to not use the ground plane for the return signal, and route the return the same way you route the audio. Think of it like a differential pair. That way, you get current balancing without breaking up your ground plane. Also, avoiding vias

Re: gEDA-user: pcb via and ground planes

2009-09-22 Thread gene glick
DJ Delorie wrote: > You want an audio-frequency microstrip then. Sounds like a Dan > question, he's probably hit that already. > > > ___ > geda-user mailing list > geda-user@moria.seul.org > http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user > Yep

Re: gEDA-user: pcb via and ground planes

2009-09-22 Thread DJ Delorie
You want an audio-frequency microstrip then. Sounds like a Dan question, he's probably hit that already. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user

Re: gEDA-user: pcb via and ground planes

2009-09-22 Thread gene glick
> > Perhaps if you explained *why* you're using a trace that way, we could > help you figure out how PCB would prefer to handle that situation. I figured that question was coming next :) Those particular traces you see are low frequency audio. There's several channels of it. In order to redu

Re: gEDA-user: pcb via and ground planes

2009-09-22 Thread DJ Delorie
Right, that's a fundamental difference between a trace and a polygon - traces always connect two points together, polygons are for area coverage and need to be more flexible. Perhaps if you explained *why* you're using a trace that way, we could help you figure out how PCB would prefer to handle

Re: gEDA-user: pcb via and ground planes

2009-09-22 Thread gene glick
Maybe you could post a small picture of what's happening to > help us understand what you're trying to accomplish? > Sure. This picture shows a polygon on the ground layer. The via has a clearance around it, as expected. http://www.geocities.com/fazool1_2000/geda/route-with-polygon.png Here'

Re: gEDA-user: pcb via and ground planes

2009-09-22 Thread DJ Delorie
> If I route a trace, not polygon, on the ground layer, and it passes > by a via, the via connects to the trace. I don't want this to > happen. Anyway to make it so ("make it so, number one")? I don't understand - that's the whole point of traces and vias - they connect. Maybe you could post a

gEDA-user: pcb via and ground planes

2009-09-22 Thread gene glick
If I route a trace, not polygon, on the ground layer, and it passes by a via, the via connects to the trace. I don't want this to happen. Anyway to make it so ("make it so, number one")? ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.