Re: gEDA-user: single-sided boards

2009-03-05 Thread John Luciani
On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 5:25 AM, David SMITH wrote: > On Tue, Mar 03, 2009 at 07:05:05PM +, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: >> On Tue, 03 Mar 2009 16:47:28 +, David SMITH wrote: >> >> > From a user's point-of-view, it makes life much easier because they no >> > longer have the hassle of generating

Re: gEDA-user: single-sided boards

2009-03-05 Thread Dan McMahill
David SMITH wrote: > On Tue, Mar 03, 2009 at 07:05:05PM +, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: >> On Tue, 03 Mar 2009 16:47:28 +, David SMITH wrote: >> >>> From a user's point-of-view, it makes life much easier because they no >>> longer have the hassle of generating Gerbers (e.g. getting the correct >

Re: gEDA-user: single-sided boards

2009-03-05 Thread David SMITH
On Tue, Mar 03, 2009 at 07:05:05PM +, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: > On Tue, 03 Mar 2009 16:47:28 +, David SMITH wrote: > > > From a user's point-of-view, it makes life much easier because they no > > longer have the hassle of generating Gerbers (e.g. getting the correct > > version of RS274, p

Re: gEDA-user: single-sided boards

2009-03-05 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
On Thu, 05 Mar 2009 10:30:29 +0300, Ineiev wrote: > It now contains --merge-drills option to output all drills into single > "unplated" file; probably this can be useful for producing > "single-sided" boards. I'd prefer an option "single sided". This should produce gerbers suitable to send to th

Re: gEDA-user: single-sided boards

2009-03-04 Thread Ineiev
On 3/3/09, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: > On Tue, 03 Mar 2009 16:47:28 +, David SMITH wrote: > >> From a user's point-of-view, it makes life much easier because they no >> longer have the hassle of generating Gerbers (e.g. getting the correct >> version of RS274, putting in the right number of deci

Re: gEDA-user: single-sided boards

2009-03-03 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
On Tue, 03 Mar 2009 16:47:28 +, David SMITH wrote: > From a user's point-of-view, it makes life much easier because they no > longer have the hassle of generating Gerbers (e.g. getting the correct > version of RS274, putting in the right number of decimal places, > including a readme file to i

Re: gEDA-user: single-sided boards

2009-03-03 Thread David SMITH
On Tue, Mar 03, 2009 at 11:37:35AM +0300, Ineiev wrote: > On 3/2/09, David SMITH wrote: > > If I may make a suggestion - "solve" the layer handling problem which > > prevents PCB's data files from being taken directly by companies like > > www.pcb-pool.com. (I think it's something to do with the

Re: gEDA-user: single-sided boards

2009-03-03 Thread Ineiev
On 3/2/09, David SMITH wrote: > If I may make a suggestion - "solve" the layer handling problem which > prevents PCB's data files from being taken directly by companies like > www.pcb-pool.com. (I think it's something to do with the fact that > the file doesn't contain any info to define the mean

Re: gEDA-user: single-sided boards

2009-03-02 Thread David SMITH
On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 02:21:23PM -0500, Stuart Brorson wrote: > > How often does the need for single-sided boards arise? > > The question about single-sided boards is interesting, but the > answer depends upon how you intend to fabricate your boards. > > If you're sending the boards to a PCB ma

Re: gEDA-user: single-sided boards

2009-02-28 Thread Wojciech Kazubski
Single sided boards do not have plated holes, so pad diameter for pins must be greater, usually two to three times the drill size. Some footprints have very small pads which will be too weak if used for single sided board. If pins are arranged in rows then oval pads may be a solution. > Design

Re: gEDA-user: single-sided boards

2009-02-28 Thread Steven Michalske
On Feb 28, 2009, at 11:21 AM, Stuart Brorson wrote: > Hi -- > >> How often does the need for single-sided boards arise? > > The question about single-sided boards is interesting, but the > answer depends upon how you intend to fabricate your boards. > > If you're sending the boards to a PCB manuf

Re: gEDA-user: single-sided boards

2009-02-28 Thread Stuart Brorson
Hi -- > How often does the need for single-sided boards arise? The question about single-sided boards is interesting, but the answer depends upon how you intend to fabricate your boards. If you're sending the boards to a PCB manufacturer, then the raw material they use is fiberglass clad with co

Re: gEDA-user: single-sided boards

2009-02-28 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
On Sat, 28 Feb 2009 18:58:44 +0100, Juergen Harms wrote: > Nice to know that this is normal and works. This seems to be a frequently asked question. I added a slightly edited version of DJs answer to the pcb-faq, err, pcb-tips in the wiki: http://geda.seul.org/wiki/geda:pcb_tips#how_do_i_produce

Re: gEDA-user: single-sided boards

2009-02-28 Thread Juergen Harms
Thanks - that corresponds to the "ugly" solution I had considered. Nice to know that this is normal and works. I have already some unplated mounting holes, I will have to merge the plated file into the unplated one. How often does the need for single-sided boards arise? this kind of cosmetics w

Re: gEDA-user: single-sided boards

2009-02-28 Thread DJ Delorie
Design for two-sided, but with all the traces on the solder side. When you dump your gerbers, delete the component side one and rename the plated-holes one to unplated-holes. Voila! A single sided board. It's all just names when you're doing single sided. There's no such thing as a single side

gEDA-user: single-sided boards

2009-02-28 Thread Juergen Harms
How do I poceed to make a single sided board (copper only on wiring side, no plated holes), but nevertheless use my footprint library which is made for multiple layers (that defines copper plated-holes and pins with copper pads on both sides)? If I naively use my library and create a single-sid