Re: [gentoo-user] modules vs. compiled in

2003-10-07 Thread Spider
begin quote On Fri, 3 Oct 2003 08:02:23 -0400 gabriel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On October 3, 2003 04:24 am, Spider wrote: > > begin quote > > On Fri, 03 Oct 2003 06:34:49 + > > > > "Senectus -" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > hats basicly saying you can load all kernel modules into the

Re: [gentoo-user] modules vs. compiled in

2003-10-03 Thread Brian Richardson
On October 3, 2003 06:27 am, Juha-Mikko Ahonen wrote: > On pe, 2003-10-03 at 15:02, gabriel wrote: > > what if you disabled "loadable module support" in the kernel? > > Wont help you as it is possible to insert code directly into the kernel > via /dev/kmem. Making the kernel memory read-only is an

Re: [gentoo-user] modules vs. compiled in

2003-10-03 Thread Juha-Mikko Ahonen
On pe, 2003-10-03 at 15:02, gabriel wrote: > what if you disabled "loadable module support" in the kernel? Wont help you as it is possible to insert code directly into the kernel via /dev/kmem. Making the kernel memory read-only is an option for combatting malicious kernel module injection. This c

Re: [gentoo-user] modules vs. compiled in

2003-10-03 Thread gabriel
On October 3, 2003 04:24 am, Spider wrote: > begin quote > On Fri, 03 Oct 2003 06:34:49 + > > "Senectus -" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > hats basicly saying you can load all kernel modules into the kernel, > > and disable insmod and that tightens up security a crap load?? > > The paper shows

Re: [gentoo-user] modules vs. compiled in

2003-10-03 Thread Spider
begin quote On Fri, 03 Oct 2003 06:34:49 + "Senectus -" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > hats basicly saying you can load all kernel modules into the kernel, > and disable insmod and that tightens up security a crap load?? The paper shows how to add modules into a kernel even if it is statical

Re: [gentoo-user] modules vs. compiled in

2003-10-02 Thread Senectus -
So thats basicly saying you can load all kernel modules into the kernel, and disable insmod and that tightens up security a crap load?? Senectus "Imagine a school with children that can read and write, but with teachers who cannot, and you have a metaphor of the Information Age in which we l

Re: [gentoo-user] modules vs. compiled in

2003-10-02 Thread Spider
begin quote On Thu, 2 Oct 2003 13:57:54 -0400 Jerry McBride <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > One other aspect of having your drivers/modules compiled into the > kernel.. security. If it's built into the kernel, there's now way an > interloper can sneak a modified module(s) into your linux box...

Re: [gentoo-user] modules vs. compiled in

2003-10-02 Thread Jerry McBride
On Thursday 02 October 2003 09:48 am, gabriel wrote: > on a recent thread, someone explained how to get your linux box to read > a windows partition by compiling your kernel for vfat/ntfs support. > they then went on to explain how to set it up so that your kernel can > either (a) compile this stuf

Re: [gentoo-user] modules vs. compiled in

2003-10-02 Thread Bob Phan
* [Oct 02, 2003] gabriel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: [snip] > so my question then is: why compile something as a module if you're > going to load it into the kernel at boot anyway? what are the > (dis)advantages? I personally try to compile almost everything as a module for the simple fact that it's fa

RE: [gentoo-user] modules vs. compiled in

2003-10-02 Thread Jeffrey Smelser
Message- > From: brett holcomb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2003 10:57 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] modules vs. compiled in > > > Because you might now want to load it at boot so you leave > it as a module. When it's n

Re: [gentoo-user] modules vs. compiled in

2003-10-02 Thread brett holcomb
Because you might now want to load it at boot so you leave it as a module. When it's needed it is loaded - in some cases automatically if I remember correctly. On Thu, 02 Oct 2003 09:48:09 -0400 gabriel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: on a recent thread, someone explained how to get your linux box

Re: [gentoo-user] modules vs. compiled in

2003-10-02 Thread Christian Herzyk
gabriel wrote: on a recent thread, someone explained how to get your linux box to read a windows partition by compiling your kernel for vfat/ntfs support. they then went on to explain how to set it up so that your kernel can either (a) compile this stuff in, or (b) compile them as modules and loa

[gentoo-user] modules vs. compiled in

2003-10-02 Thread gabriel
on a recent thread, someone explained how to get your linux box to read a windows partition by compiling your kernel for vfat/ntfs support. they then went on to explain how to set it up so that your kernel can either (a) compile this stuff in, or (b) compile them as modules and load them automatic