On Mon, Sep 29, 2003 at 12:25:49PM +0200, Sven Neumann wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I wonder when and why the terminology of hardcoding a keybinding was
> introduced into this discussion. I simply don't understand it's
> meaning. If you think about having two different keybindings bound to
> a single menu ent
Calum Benson wrote:
> Whimsical muse: since there are almost no other gtk/GNOME apps that use
> Redo (and the only one I can think of doesn't use Ctrl-Shift-Z either),
> it's not beyond the bounds of possibility that we might end up changing
> the HIG to whatever you decide anyway :)
Well, thanks
Hi,
I wonder when and why the terminology of hardcoding a keybinding was
introduced into this discussion. I simply don't understand it's
meaning. If you think about having two different keybindings bound to
a single menu entry, this is AFAIK not possible with GTK+-2.x. And I
can't think of any oth
Raphaël Quinet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>How many of these mails have been written by the 99% of the users
>who do not use the GIMP more than once per week (or month)? Yes,
Do I count?
When I have to redo in an app that I don't use frequently, I use the Edit
menu to see how it's done. That w
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On Fri, 26 Sep 2003 15:22:05 +0200, Michael Natterer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> David Neary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > In the current situation, I think it's reasonable to fit in with
> > what others do in the general case, which dynamic shortcuts
> > provide a way to revert to the old behav
David Neary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Marc A. Lehmann wrote:
>> On Wed, Sep 24, 2003 at 11:39:44PM +0200, David Neary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > I'm sure that ergonomy was considered for Photoshop when they
>> > chose Ctrl-Shift-Z for Redo... I do think it's overstating our
>> > importa
On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 20:08:02 +0200, David Neary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In the current situation, I think it's reasonable to fit in with
> what others do in the general case, which dynamic shortcuts
> provide a way to revert to the old behaviour. When the others are
> everyone using a Mac, plu
I believe we could hard-code two keybindings to work as the
default, couldn't we?
Technically possible, but extremely horrible, since the user has to be
educated about it. And since the only argument in favour of the less
ergonomic C-S-Z is "easier to learn", that sounds even worse than leaving
it
Marc A. Lehmann wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 24, 2003 at 11:39:44PM +0200, David Neary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I'm sure that ergonomy was considered for Photoshop when they
> > chose Ctrl-Shift-Z for Redo... I do think it's overstating our
> > importance somewhat to say that what's good for a larg
On Wed, Sep 24, 2003 at 11:39:44PM +0200, David Neary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm sure that ergonomy was considered for Photoshop when they
> chose Ctrl-Shift-Z for Redo... I do think it's overstating our
> importance somewhat to say that what's good for a large portion
> of the rest of the wo
Nathan Carl Summers wrote:
> I agree. Gimp's undo and redo feature differs from many other programs in
> that when comparing subtle changes it is useful to switch rapidly between
> the "before" and "after" views, while for a program such as a word
> processor, that is probably not a useful thing t
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On Mon, 22 Sep 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> However I *love* the Ctrl-R binding, especially because it lets me quickly
> compare the done and undone versions of an image using a single hand with
> very li
Hi,
Sven Neumann wrote:
> Ack. IMHO the new keybinding (David changed it already) is really
> akward to use compared to the old one. And actually Ctrl-Shift-Z
> should better be left available so we can bind it to group undos later
> when this feature is implemented. (A group undo would allow to u
Hi,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> However I *love* the Ctrl-R binding, especially because it lets me quickly
> compare the done and undone versions of an image using a single hand with
> very little effort. Try to do it with Ctrl-Z/Shift-Ctrl-Z and you'll find
> that you need either very good coord
"Branko Collin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[...]
>BTW, I read in the Windows HIG that several shortcuts per function
>are supported, for reasons of backward compatibility. Would it be
>possible to have something similar in the GIMP?
YES, please!!
I fully agree that Shift-Ctrl-Z is The Right T
On 21 Sep 2003, at 15:46, David Neary wrote:
> Branko Collin wrote:
> > On 21 Sep 2003, at 14:12, David Neary wrote:
> > > Excuse me - the shortcut I'd like to change is Redo, which is
> > > currently Ctrl-R. Most apps in the Linux desktop space are now
> > > adopting some or all of the GNOME HIG
On 21 Sep 2003, at 14:51, Branko Collin wrote:
> On 21 Sep 2003, at 14:12, David Neary wrote:
> > Steinar H. Gunderson wrote:
>
> > > Why not Ctrl-Z, which is faster and which almost everybody knows
> > > already?
> >
> > Excuse me - the shortcut I'd like to change is Redo, which is
> > currently C
Branko Collin wrote:
> On 21 Sep 2003, at 14:12, David Neary wrote:
> > Excuse me - the shortcut I'd like to change is Redo, which is
> > currently Ctrl-R. Most apps in the Linux desktop space are now
> > adopting some or all of the GNOME HIG in this regard. So - to
> > correct myself - I'd like to
On 21 Sep 2003, at 14:12, David Neary wrote:
> Steinar H. Gunderson wrote:
> > Why not Ctrl-Z, which is faster and which almost everybody knows
> > already?
>
> Excuse me - the shortcut I'd like to change is Redo, which is
> currently Ctrl-R. Most apps in the Linux desktop space are now
> adoptin
Hi,
Steinar H. Gunderson wrote:
> Why not Ctrl-Z, which is faster and which almost everybody knows already?
Excuse me - the shortcut I'd like to change is Redo, which is
currently Ctrl-R. Most apps in the Linux desktop space are now
adopting some or all of the GNOME HIG in this regard. So - to
co
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