On 12 May 2012, at 15:37, Peter Murray-Rust wrote:
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On 12 May 2012, at 15:37, Peter Murray-Rust wrote:
> This is a very good summary - as a;ways RP gets to the essence with clarity.
>
> On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Richard Poynder > wrote:
>
>> List members will doubtless correct me if I am wrong, but it seems to me
>> that the nub of this i
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Hi all,
Iâm glad weâre now moving our conversation on in new directions, and Iâld
like to suggest one which I hope will be
I am a scientist not a contract negotiator. I have made my wishes very
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>> With kind wishes,
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>> Dr Alicia Wise
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Hi all,
I’m glad we’re now moving our conversation on in new directions, and I’ld like
to suggest one which I hope will be produc
On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 6:33 AM, Arthur Sale wrote:
> Peter
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> To what extent does “fair-use” over-ride the publisher wishes?
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On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 1:16 PM, Richard Poynder
wrote:
Many thanks to Alicia Wise for starting a new conversation thread.
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Letâs recall that Aliciaâs question was, âwhat positive things are
established scholarly publishers doing to facilitate the various
y obsolete copyright legislation.
Arthur Sale
Tasmania, Australia
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Of Peter Murray-Rust
Sent: Saturday, 12 May 2012 8:47 AM
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On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 1:16 PM, Richard Poynder wrote:
> Many thanks to Alicia Wise for starting a new conversation thread.
>
> ** **
>
> Let’s recall that Alicia’s question was, “what positive things are
> established scholarly publishers doing to facilitate the various visions
> for open
Good morning!
Thinking positively, I would recommend the following change in one clause of
the What rights do I retain as a journal author*? stated in Elsevier's portal,
which says
"the right to post a revised personal version of the text of the final journal
article (to reflect changes made in
Alicia,
Some publishers are often criticised, you're right, and I agree that they
shouldn't be for just being an established scholarly publisher. And I don't
think they are as often as you perhaps assume. It is the policies and business
models that are criticised rather than the publishers per se.
Hi Alica
There are a number of good examples.
In gold OA we have the example of PLoS, BMC, Hindawi, and hundreds of other
publishers who are showing the OA gold is a sustainable model.
In hybrid, we have publishers such as Springer who a) make obvious papers where
the author has paid a publicatio
Hi all,
Â
Iâm glad weâre now moving our conversation on in new directions, and Iâld
like
to suggest one which I hope will be productive. The discussion on this list
often seems to me be based on the assumption that scholarly publishers are a
wholly negative force in the open access wor
Good morning!
Thinking positively, I would recommend the following change in one
clause of the What rights do I retain as a journal author*?
stated in Elsevier's portal, which says
"the right to
post a revised personal version of the text of the final journal
article (to reflect changes made
Alicia,
Some publishers are often criticised, you're right, and I agree that they
shouldn't be for just being an established scholarly publisher. And I don't
think they are as often as you perhaps assume. It is the policies and business
models that are criticised rather than the publishers per
Hi Alica
There are a number of good examples.
In gold OA we have the example of PLoS, BMC, Hindawi, and hundreds of other
publishers who are showing the OA gold is a sustainable model.
In hybrid, we have publishers such as Springer who a) make obvious papers where
the author has paid a publica
Hi all,
I'm glad we're now moving our conversation on in new directions, and
I'ld like to suggest one which I hope will be productive. The
discussion on this list often seems to me be based on the assumption
that scholarly publishers are a wholly negative force in the open access
world, and a
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