Re: site design

2012-08-28 Thread Jeff Breidenbach
Thanks everyone for public and private feedback. Graphical
summation here for the moment. Did I miss or misunderstand
anything?

http://mail-archive.com/feedback.png

>> Access keys should
>> also be defined to do similar.
>
>And that would be really nice. (but they should also be advertized,
>maybe using a link/icon next to the navigation buttons.

Christian, can you show me an example? We've had access keys for
a very long time, they are listed in the FAQ. I doubt they get much use.
Also is it better to do a javascript version where hitting a plain 'n' key
takes you to the next message as well as the Alt-n access key?

-Jeff


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Re: site design

2012-08-28 Thread Sarah Alawami
Does this use aria which is a way of working with screen reading technology. I 
just arose out of bed so have not looked at it but that's my main concern.

Take care all and be blessed.

I love the service.
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web at http://wics.cc and thanks for tuning in.

On Aug 28, 2012, at 4:12 AM, Ralph Corderoy  wrote:

> Hi Jeff,
> 
>> http://www.maxdesign.com.au/jobs/318-mail-archive/38.htm
> 
> Generally, I like it.  The "18-01-2012, 10:51PM -0800" date is
> re-formatted compared to the original email so I'd like some say over
> how it's displayed to me, e.g. preferences in a cookie, or else a better
> default;  "2012-01-18 22:51:42 -0800"  ;-).
> 
> How do I get to view the original email that arrived, headers, warts,
> and all?
> 
> I'd probably prefer the thread display at the bottom to be author first,
> then subject.  Both can use CSS to cut off their text at the edge of
> their box, then fixed-width isn't required?  Also, there doesn't seem
> much point making the author italic as its position in a column shows
> it's distinct from the surroundings?
> 
> The Previous and Next buttons at the end are handy, though I'm not sure
> they need to say "message" too.  But the pair are also required at the
> top of the page, though they could be more terse and smaller.  What's
> important is that their position is fixed from page to page.  This
> allows the mouse to stay in the same place and the user to click through
> whilst seeing just the first page of each email.  Access keys should
> also be defined to do similar.
> 
> Cheers, Ralph.
> 
> 
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Re: site design

2012-08-28 Thread Christian Lohmaier
Hi Jeff, *,

On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 1:12 PM, Ralph Corderoy  wrote:
>
>> http://www.maxdesign.com.au/jobs/318-mail-archive/38.htm

Not much of a friend of displaying the ads within the message as if
the poster had added the image (but that's not different compared to
as it is now).

Like the removal of deadspace at the top (less scrolling), but dislike
the removal of the navigation from the top.

> Generally, I like it.  The "18-01-2012, 10:51PM -0800" date is
> re-formatted compared to the original email so I'd like some say over
> how it's displayed to me, e.g. preferences in a cookie, or else a better
> default;  "2012-01-18 22:51:42 -0800"  ;-).

Yea, ISO-Format please :-)

> How do I get to view the original email that arrived, headers, warts,
> and all?

That isn't possible in the current design either, you see a the
message-id in the source-code view though.

> I'd probably prefer the thread display at the bottom to be author first,
> then subject.  Both can use CSS to cut off their text at the edge of
> their box, then fixed-width isn't required?

I prefer Subject, then Author, but I'd prefer if it wasn't truncated
that much. Navigation/thread list should span across the whole browser
window if possible.

> The Previous and Next buttons at the end are handy, though I'm not sure
> they need to say "message" too.  But the pair are also required at the
> top of the page, though they could be more terse and smaller.

or plain links, no need for buttons at the top.

>  What's
> important is that their position is fixed from page to page.  This
> allows the mouse to stay in the same place and the user to click through
> whilst seeing just the first page of each email.

Yes, that's mainly why I dislike the removal of the buttons at the top.

> Access keys should
> also be defined to do similar.

And that would be really nice. (but they should also be advertized,
maybe using a link/icon next to the navigation buttons.

ciao
Christian


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Re: site design

2012-08-28 Thread Sherry/Support
Please - don't place ads in the middle of an archived email! They're
so annoying. I hate it when I see them in the middle of articles on
the web.

Yes, I realize advertising is necessary for revenue to keep a service
free, but there has to be a better way than breaking the train of
thought for the reader.

Other than that, the new design is really nice.


Sherry



On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 11:12 PM, Jeff Breidenbach  wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> The Mail Archive is now 14 years old (that's a long time in dog
> years) and we've been thinking about some design updates.
> The mockup below is intended for visitors from global search
> engines. Direct visitors will continue to have no advertisements.
>
> I hope that the proposed design is an improvement. We have
> already done some formal user testing, and now want to get
> thoughts from expert users, including folks who currently entrust
> data to the service. Any opinions or thoughts are appreciated,
> especially specific suggestions.
>
> Also don't get too excited; even if everything goes smoothly it will
> probably be several months from deployment. Thank you for
> your time.
>
> Cheers,
> Jeff
>
> http://www.maxdesign.com.au/jobs/318-mail-archive/38.htm
>
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Re: site design

2012-08-28 Thread Ralph Corderoy
Hi Jeff,

> http://www.maxdesign.com.au/jobs/318-mail-archive/38.htm

Generally, I like it.  The "18-01-2012, 10:51PM -0800" date is
re-formatted compared to the original email so I'd like some say over
how it's displayed to me, e.g. preferences in a cookie, or else a better
default;  "2012-01-18 22:51:42 -0800"  ;-).

How do I get to view the original email that arrived, headers, warts,
and all?

I'd probably prefer the thread display at the bottom to be author first,
then subject.  Both can use CSS to cut off their text at the edge of
their box, then fixed-width isn't required?  Also, there doesn't seem
much point making the author italic as its position in a column shows
it's distinct from the surroundings?

The Previous and Next buttons at the end are handy, though I'm not sure
they need to say "message" too.  But the pair are also required at the
top of the page, though they could be more terse and smaller.  What's
important is that their position is fixed from page to page.  This
allows the mouse to stay in the same place and the user to click through
whilst seeing just the first page of each email.  Access keys should
also be defined to do similar.

Cheers, Ralph.


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