Alan Pope wrote:
> 2009/6/16 pavithran :
>
>> How really cares about 20 -100 MB difference these days ? Can't you
>> afford a 20 GB hard disk :P
>>
>
> Not when the "disk" is soldered onto the motherboard in my Eee 900.
>
> The root filesystem on the eee is 4G, the home filesystem is 16G (i
On Wed, 17 Jun 2009 18:52:45 +0100
Alan Pope wrote:
> The root filesystem on the eee is 4G, the home filesystem is 16G (in
> my setup). Running Ubuntu I run out of space now and then and so yes,
> 20-100MB matters deeply.
I have got into the habit of running 'aptitude clean' after an
aptitude up
2009/6/16 pavithran :
> How really cares about 20 -100 MB difference these days ? Can't you
> afford a 20 GB hard disk :P
Not when the "disk" is soldered onto the motherboard in my Eee 900.
The root filesystem on the eee is 4G, the home filesystem is 16G (in
my setup). Running Ubuntu I run out of
On Tue, 2009-06-16 at 23:50 +0100, pavithran wrote:
> 2009/6/14 Phillip Chandler :
> > On Sun, 2009-06-14 at 13:58 +0100, John Cooper wrote:
> >
> > As an MS user, O/S and software, I can tell you, hand on heart and my £20
> > in the pot,
> > that OO is more bloated than MS Office, so quit trying
2009/6/14 Phillip Chandler :
> On Sun, 2009-06-14 at 13:58 +0100, John Cooper wrote:
>
> As an MS user, O/S and software, I can tell you, hand on heart and my £20 in
> the pot,
> that OO is more bloated than MS Office, so quit trying to con me that its
> not, Ive done the
> homework on my machine
Hugo Mills wrote:
>Their aims appear to be to reproduce MS Office exactly, so yes.
>
>I once tried making a simple UI for a database using OO.o Base. It
> was impossible to make a UI for a simple many-to-many cross-ref table,
> without writing hundreds of lines of code, as far as I can t
2009/6/14 Stephen Nelson-Smith :
>
> My definition of crap: Software that costs me a lot of money because
> it is slow and it crashes.
That definition fits my experience with Microsoft Office.
At the end of the day, what works for you may not work for me. I now
use Gnuplot to generate graphs fro
On Sun, 14 Jun 2009 17:08:08 +0100
Stephen Nelson-Smith wrote:
> I'd be interested to know which 'open source' bicycle components you
> use! :P Sram? Campag? Are they any better? I'm using Shimano on my
> road bike, but historically I prefer Campag, but I've never really
> felt any other compa
> Heres what you do. Go into synaptic, select all of the OO progs, and
> just see the total MB at the bottom that your system is going to remove.
> I can tell you that MS Office is, at worst, only 2/3 the size.
The space OO.org needs is not going to require me to buy a new disk -
> I had my watch
Verging OT
>> I started reading your post, and was rather impress with what you had
>> to say, up to the point where you had to use "M$Office" rather than
>> plain old "MSoffice".
>
> a bad habit I agree! but it does reflect my opinion of MS's 'attitude'
> to users. I won't use Shimano product
On Sun, 14 Jun 2009 13:25:50 +0100
Phillip Chandler wrote:
> > I have never used M$Office but my wife has Office2000 and it causes
> > her no end of grief because it won't 'allow' her to do things the
> > way she wants but has a will of its own. She would have preferred
> > to go on using WordP
On Sun, 2009-06-14 at 13:58 +0100, John Cooper wrote:
> Stephen Nelson-Smith wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> The majority of people will find OO good enough to use
> >>> That's just an assertion.
> >> No,it isn't.
> >
> > Yes it is. An assertion is: "Something declared or stated positively,
> > ofte
Hi,
> But just because a piece of software crashes, is it any cause to call it crap,
Almost certainly not.
> You also say you give time and money to open source projects, are they slow to
> start, do they crash when used
They certainly have bugs, some of them annoying ones, but not ones
that ha
On Sunday 14 June 2009 15:15:46 Stephen Nelson-Smith wrote:
> >
> > And you use Windows?
>
> No. I use Linux, OSX and Solaris. But the mention of Windows is
> interesting. Many people claim that Windows is, for them, an adequate
> solution. Many of us would suggest that Windows is crap - for t
Hi Vic,
On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 2:32 PM, Vic wrote:
>
>> I'll stop correcting you when you stop getting it wrong. :)
>
> On the subject of being wrong...
>
> Your comment was "That's just an assertion". Refuting that statement does
> *not* mean that the original "it's good enough" comment is not
> I'll stop correcting you when you stop getting it wrong. :)
On the subject of being wrong...
Your comment was "That's just an assertion". Refuting that statement does
*not* mean that the original "it's good enough" comment is not an
assertion, it means that it is not *just* an assertion.
I ho
Hi,
> This is not a thesis and some things are obvious and don't need proving
> to LUG users. OO is well used and we all know what it is. So is star
> office. You are completely aware of that so stop playing childish word
> games.
I'll stop correcting you when you stop getting it wrong. :)
> Are
Stephen Nelson-Smith wrote:
> Hello,
>
The majority of people will find OO good enough to use
>>> That's just an assertion.
>> No,it isn't.
>
> Yes it is. An assertion is: "Something declared or stated positively,
> often with no support or attempt at proof." Show me the support or
> attemp
> Whether you like or hate MS, I firmly believe that they have helped get
> computers get where they are today.
I'd agree with you.
I just don't think that's something of which to be proud...
> Their OS was always advertised as
> being for the masses, and that means so dumbed down that even a m
>
> I have never used M$Office but my wife has Office2000 and it causes her
> no end of grief because it won't 'allow' her to do things the way she
> wants but has a will of its own. She would have preferred to go on using
> WordPerfect which like me she had got used to using at work back in the
On Sun, 14 Jun 2009 12:12:44 +0100
Phillip Chandler wrote:
> If you are just writing a standard letter to Aunty Mildred in South
> Australia, then why use a computer ? Why not use pen and paper, that
> surely isnt as bloated as an office suite. In fact whats wrong with
> gedit or a text editor ?
Hello,
>>> The majority of people will find OO good enough to use
>>
>> That's just an assertion.
> No,it isn't.
Yes it is. An assertion is: "Something declared or stated positively,
often with no support or attempt at proof." Show me the support or
attempt at proof in your original statement an
On Sat, 2009-06-13 at 23:12 +0100, John Cooper wrote:
> Phillip Chandler wrote:
> > On Sat, 2009-06-13 at 21:38 +0100, John Cooper wrote:
> >> Don't forget you need a valid MS office license to run under Crossover
> >> and that doesn't mean just because you have the windows version you can
> >> ins
Hi,
I'd agree that MS has the same learning curve issues. My customer has licenses
for both Office 2003 and Office 2007. I have been told to carry on installing
Office 2003 and the XML compatibility pack and forbidden from installing 2007
because the new 2007 UI is unacceptable to the users and
Stephen Nelson-Smith wrote:
> Hello,
>> OO is free to download and use.
>
> It's also shit. I'm not interested in 'demand a full refund'
> conversations - OOo, particularly the spreadsheet, has cost my company
> *much* more than £200.00 in lost time with its crashes and
> unbelievably slow perfor
Hello,
> OO is free to download and use.
It's also shit. I'm not interested in 'demand a full refund'
conversations - OOo, particularly the spreadsheet, has cost my company
*much* more than £200.00 in lost time with its crashes and
unbelievably slow performance.
> The majority of people will fin
2009/6/13 John Cooper :
> Phillip Chandler wrote:
>> Abiword ?
>>
>>
> Abiword only provides basic word processing and can't be compared with a
> full office suite. Most companies need to compose letter, spreadsheets
> and presentations.
Ok then. LaTeX Gnuplot and [Perl|Python|Bash|C|whatever]
Phillip Chandler wrote:
> On Sat, 2009-06-13 at 21:38 +0100, John Cooper wrote:
>> Don't forget you need a valid MS office license to run under Crossover
>> and that doesn't mean just because you have the windows version you can
>> install another in Linux. Are you happy paying £200+ for that?
>
>
2009/6/13 Phillip Chandler :
>> For those who think MS office or OO are too bloated, well suggest an
>> alternative rather than saying both are rubbish. We all need to use
>> something to compose letters, create spreadsheets and presentations and
>> I'm very happy with OO for that.
>>
Google Docs.
On Sat, 2009-06-13 at 21:38 +0100, John Cooper wrote:
> Phillip Chandler wrote:
> > On Fri, 2009-06-12 at 13:07 +0100, Hugo Mills wrote:
> >> On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 12:59:51PM +0100, Stephen Nelson-Smith wrote:
> >>> On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 11:22 AM, Damian Brasher
> >>> wrote:
> Some of you
Phillip Chandler wrote:
> On Fri, 2009-06-12 at 13:07 +0100, Hugo Mills wrote:
>> On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 12:59:51PM +0100, Stephen Nelson-Smith wrote:
>>> On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 11:22 AM, Damian Brasher
>>> wrote:
Some of you may know this, anti-aliasing has been available since 7th May.
>>
Hugo Mills wrote:
>> > Great news and I am already getting stuck in to some new illustrations.
>>
>> Is it still a bloated an unstable pile of crap?
>
>Their aims appear to be to reproduce MS Office exactly, so yes.
>
I just did these in OOo Draw:
http://www.diaser.org.uk/images/graphic3.png
On Fri, 2009-06-12 at 13:07 +0100, Hugo Mills wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 12:59:51PM +0100, Stephen Nelson-Smith wrote:
> > On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 11:22 AM, Damian Brasher
> > wrote:
> > > Some of you may know this, anti-aliasing has been available since 7th May.
> > > Great news and I am al
On Fri, 12 Jun 2009 13:07:55 +0100
Hugo Mills wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 12:59:51PM +0100, Stephen Nelson-Smith wrote:
> > On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 11:22 AM, Damian
> > Brasher wrote:
> > > Some of you may know this, anti-aliasing has been available since
> > > 7th May. Great news and I am a
On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 12:59:51PM +0100, Stephen Nelson-Smith wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 11:22 AM, Damian Brasher wrote:
> > Some of you may know this, anti-aliasing has been available since 7th May.
> > Great news and I am already getting stuck in to some new illustrations.
>
> Is it still
On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 11:22 AM, Damian Brasher wrote:
> Some of you may know this, anti-aliasing has been available since 7th May.
> Great news and I am already getting stuck in to some new illustrations.
Is it still a bloated an unstable pile of crap?
S.
--
Stephen Nelson-Smith
Technical Dire
Some of you may know this, anti-aliasing has been available since 7th May.
Great news and I am already getting stuck in to some new illustrations.
Full details here: http://www.openoffice.org/dev_docs/features/3.1/index.html
To upgrade I removed the native OS rpm's then installed the complete 3.1
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