Hi,
On Fri, 2005-07-22 at 17:01 +0500, usman bashir wrote:
> i am looking over this and really appreciate a quick response. and one
> thing i want to add up, i would really like to see improvements in
> Javax.sound packages
Sorry, it is getting late already. I wanted to go over the whole list
Hi,
On Fri, 2005-07-22 at 11:44 +0100, Tim Ellison wrote:
> There are two distinct groups within IBM doing class library work --
> hey, it's a big place!
>
> One group provides a robust J2SE based on the Sun libraries for many IBM
> products/platforms [1]. The other group has no access to Sun co
Hi,
On Fri, 2005-07-22 at 10:18 +0100, Tim Ellison wrote:
> It seems that all roads lead back to the discussion of licensing and
> philosophy. Even that has degenerated into name calling which is
> unhelpful for building a harmonious and inclusive community.
>
> While I understand perfectly that
Hi,
On Thu, 2005-07-21 at 05:53 -0400, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
> > We seem to be giving mixed signals here. Can we try to coordinate a
> > bit more on the policies we want to have for this project? Even if we
> > cannot agree on some things it would be good to setup some resolution
> > mecha
Hi,
On Thu, 2005-07-21 at 05:52 -0400, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
> What do you have to negotiate? We want to define an interface for
> the VM and Class library that is 100% usable by anyone and everyone.
> I always imagined that we'd define the interface, and then each do an
> independent
> "Tim" == Tim Ellison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Just some random thoughts on this.
Tim> The goal is to (a) stimulate discussion, and (b) think about the
Tim> components that we should declare with well-defined interfaces to other
Tim> components (I'm thinking of OSGi bundles here).
In mos
> ... and as is becoming
> traditional with the project, we went for beer afterwards.
>
Glad you're keeping up the tradition of the "first meeting", even though
this one seems to have been a bit more formal (and better attended!?).
--Ian
BOF session was well attended and we had a good time. We had the
#harmony IRC channel up on screen, and Leo was kind enough to do the
typing. We had members of the GNU Classpath community with us on
IRC, and Dalibor from Kaffe was there in person.
We reviewed the project basics, talked a
http://developers.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/07/22/145210&tid=136&tid=108&tid=1
Kind regards,
Andreas Ravnestad
On Fri, 2005-07-22 at 16:17 +0200, Jeroen Frijters wrote:
> Actually, it underestimates the number of errors. For binary
> compatibility the results are still valid though. The differences really
> only matter for source level (and to a limited degree reflection)
> compatibility.
Really? Ok. I got
Sven de Marothy wrote:
> Please observe that JAPItools isn't fully 1.5-compatible
> (read: problems with generics, I think), so it reports more
> errors than what's actually there.
Actually, it underestimates the number of errors. For binary
compatibility the results are still valid though. The d
Mark,
Classpath does have an "inofficial" JAPI comparison against 1.5,
it's right here:
http://www.kaffe.org/~stuart/japi/htmlout/h-jdk15-classpath.html
Please observe that JAPItools isn't fully 1.5-compatible (read: problems
with generics, I think), so it reports more errors than what's actually
Maybe put "text" into
that group (who consistently & correctly remembers whether Locale is in
text or util? :-)).
There is a wad of logic to get right for the bidi, word/line/sentence
boundary detection, etc. I can imagine a world with updates required
here that are independent of ot
Ian Darwin wrote:
> Tim Ellison wrote:
>
>> Here's a list of the packages in J2SE 5.0, and my strawman grouping of
>> packages into 'components' (terminology to be agreed :-) ).
>>
>> The goal is to (a) stimulate discussion, and (b) think about the
>> components that we should declare with well-de
Thnx Mark!
i am looking over this and really appreciate a quick response. and one
thing i want to add up, i would really like to see improvements in
Javax.sound packages of sun (just recent headache faced so bit curious about
it) and as well as no one offering much support in JMF (i should say
Tim Ellison wrote:
Here's a list of the packages in J2SE 5.0, and my strawman grouping of
packages into 'components' (terminology to be agreed :-) ).
The goal is to (a) stimulate discussion, and (b) think about the
components that we should declare with well-defined interfaces to other
componen
Mark Wielaard wrote:
> I believe kaffe.org has some 1.5 comparisons.
See
http://www.kaffe.org/~stuart/japi/htmlout/h-jdk15-classpath-generics.html
for the status of the generics branch, and
http://www.kaffe.org/~stuart/japi/htmlout/h-jdk15-classpath.html for the
status of classpath HEAD branch.
T
Hi,
On Fri, 2005-07-22 at 15:24 +0500, usman bashir wrote:
> I have question to mark! which is missing in ClassPath, just an bird eye
> answer :)
Quick answer. Really busy at the moment. I wanted to thank Tim for
pushing for "a harmonious and inclusive community" and just pointing out
concrete g
I have question to mark! which is missing in ClassPath, just an bird eye
answer :)
On 7/22/05, Tim Ellison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Here's a list of the packages in J2SE 5.0, and my strawman grouping of
> packages into 'components' (terminology to be agreed :-) ).
>
> The goal is to (a)
There are two distinct groups within IBM doing class library work --
hey, it's a big place!
One group provides a robust J2SE based on the Sun libraries for many IBM
products/platforms [1]. The other group has no access to Sun code and
provides a (similarly robust ) smaller set of IBM-authored lib
Here's a list of the packages in J2SE 5.0, and my strawman grouping of
packages into 'components' (terminology to be agreed :-) ).
The goal is to (a) stimulate discussion, and (b) think about the
components that we should declare with well-defined interfaces to other
components (I'm thinking of OS
Hi,
that's good news. :-)
Does IBM have an in-house implementation of the standard libraries
that could be released under ASL? Or is the IBM JDK delivered with the
Sun libraries?
Greetings,
Michael Haupt
It seems that all roads lead back to the discussion of licensing and
philosophy. Even that has degenerated into name calling which is
unhelpful for building a harmonious and inclusive community.
While I understand perfectly that unifying the existing efforts in
J2SE-space is a goal of Harmony, I
yeah and i am seeing many more to come, but we need a direct goal to avoid
the "rough edges" but i hope it will take time though!!
On 7/22/05, Peter Donald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Good work Geir and whoever else is working away behind the scenes. This
> is great news!
>
> Geir Magnusson
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