Re: [legal] contribution policy and proposed guidelines posted to site

2005-07-25 Thread Santiago Gala
El lun, 25-07-2005 a las 08:56 -0500, netsql escribió: > Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: > > > > > - requiring a CCLA from employers : I've dropped this, as it's > > impractical, although we must encourage people to get them if possible, > > and should work to set an example if we can > > > > > >

delegating VM function (was: Re: Eclipse part 2)

2005-07-25 Thread Tim Ellison
That sounds like a perfectly reasonable pattern. Graeme's earlier description [1] is a coarse grained approach, which says if the class has a close VM dependency then we leave it up to the VM-implementor to provide it ;-) For types like Object that is not onerous since there is not much behavior

Re: Class library componentization

2005-07-25 Thread Richard S. Hall
Tim Ellison wrote: So in OSGi R4 you can export/import individual classes as well as entire packages? No, but you can include/exclude classes from a package, sort of like selecting files in Ant. What do you mean by 'mandatory attributes'? Is this a conditional export/import? Bette

Re: Class library componentization

2005-07-25 Thread Tim Ellison
Richard S. Hall wrote: > Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: > >> I assume that what we really need is two kinds of component export, >> the public app level API (java.util.*) and a public-yet-not-for-app- >> but-fellow-traveler API, such as what other conspiring modules would >> export to each other to p

Re: Class library componentization

2005-07-25 Thread Richard S. Hall
Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: I assume that what we really need is two kinds of component export, the public app level API (java.util.*) and a public-yet-not-for-app- but-fellow-traveler API, such as what other conspiring modules would export to each other to provide the full public API. Kind

Re: [legal] contribution policy and proposed guidelines posted to site

2005-07-25 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
On Jul 25, 2005, at 9:56 AM, netsql wrote: Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: - requiring a CCLA from employers : I've dropped this, as it's impractical, although we must encourage people to get them if possible, and should work to set an example if we can geir (sound good to drop it) You ca

Re: [legal] contribution policy and proposed guidelines posted to site

2005-07-25 Thread netsql
Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: - requiring a CCLA from employers : I've dropped this, as it's impractical, although we must encourage people to get them if possible, and should work to set an example if we can geir (sound good to drop it) You can just decide what to add and remove as you

[legal] current to-do's

2005-07-25 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
Just as a record : 1) I am working to find a satisfactory resolution to the concern from some free software community members regarding the incompatibility of the Apache License and the GPL wrt contributions to our mailing list. Goal is ASAP 2) I will be running our Authorized Contributo

[legal] contribution policy and proposed guidelines posted to site

2005-07-25 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
All, I apologize for the delay. I have added to our website (please allow up to 4 hours from now for propagation to public site) : 1) Our proposed contribution framework for the project. This should currently be considered 'proposed' as we do the final nip-and-tucks, and get any remain

Re: Class library componentization

2005-07-25 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
On Jul 25, 2005, at 7:00 AM, Tim Ellison wrote: Tom Tromey wrote: "Tim" == Tim Ellison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Just some random thoughts on this. Tim> The goal is to (a) stimulate discussion, and (b) think about the Tim> components that we should declare with well-defined interface

Re: Eclipse part 2

2005-07-25 Thread David P Grove
Yes. The main focus of the Jikes RVM project is VM/JIT research. We've made minor contributions to the design of the GNU classpath VM/classlib interface, since we are one of the many runtimes that depend on it, but we're mainly consumers of class libraries, not producers. As discussed in more

Re: Class library componentization

2005-07-25 Thread Tim Ellison
Tom Tromey wrote: >>"Tim" == Tim Ellison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Just some random thoughts on this. > > Tim> The goal is to (a) stimulate discussion, and (b) think about the > Tim> components that we should declare with well-defined interfaces to other > Tim> components (I'm thinki