RE: [Histonet] IHC pos. & neg. control question

2011-05-24 Thread Godfrey Guerzon
This is my understanding about this CAP checklist item - CAP is looking for 2 types of negative controls: 1. Negative reagent control - this is satisfied by running a negative control slide from the same patient block through the whole process without the primary antibody. 2. Negative tissu

RE: [Histonet] IHC pos. & neg. control question

2011-05-20 Thread Liz Chlipala
, Colorado 80504 -Original Message- From: Amos Brooks [mailto:amosbro...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, May 20, 2011 3:05 PM To: Liz Chlipala Cc: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu Subject: Re: [Histonet] IHC pos. & neg. control question Thanks Liz, You are absolutly right there, but have

Re: [Histonet] IHC pos. & neg. control question

2011-05-20 Thread Amos Brooks
Thanks Liz, You are absolutly right there, but have you ever noticed some folks eyes glaze over when you say that they must both be run at the same ug/mL? I would be lying if I said it never happened to me until I forced myself to work it out. Once you do though it isn't too bad. Unfortunately

RE: [Histonet] IHC pos. & neg. control question

2011-05-20 Thread Liz Chlipala
Amos Isotype negative controls are based upon protein concentration not dilution. They must be the same protein concentration of the primary antibody at the dilution you are using. Using the same dilution will not work unless both stock solutions (primary antibody and isotype control) are at the

RE: [Histonet] IHC pos. & neg. control question

2011-05-20 Thread Curt Tague
l.com] Sent: Friday, May 20, 2011 11:57 AM To: Curt Tague Cc: Ingles Claire; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu Subject: Re: [Histonet] IHC pos. & neg. control question Curt, Thank you. I'm here all week, try the veal. Sincerely,

Re: [Histonet] IHC pos. & neg. control question

2011-05-20 Thread Jay Lundgren
Curt, Thank you. I'm here all week, try the veal. Sincerely, Jay A. Lundgren, M.S., HTL (ASCP) ___ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwester

RE: [Histonet] IHC pos. & neg. control question

2011-05-20 Thread Curt Tague
AM To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu Subject: RE: [Histonet] IHC pos. & neg. control question And the block in question has already been proven positive using THAT procedure and antibody during validation. Claire From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu

RE: [Histonet] IHC pos. & neg. control question

2011-05-20 Thread Ingles Claire
; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu Subject: RE: [Histonet] IHC pos. & neg. control question Pete, When you run a positive control. The tissue is already a known positive (or it should be) for whichever antibody you are running regardless of prior handling. It would be impossible for this no

RE: [Histonet] IHC pos. & neg. control question

2011-05-20 Thread Dawson, Glen
sday, May 19, 2011 12:31 PM To: gdaw...@dynacaremilwaukee.com; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu Subject: RE: [Histonet] IHC pos. & neg. control question Glen, If I am to understand you correctly you are saying control tissue is not treated the same as patient tissue, therefore is useless as a

RE: [Histonet] IHC pos. & neg. control question

2011-05-20 Thread Dawson, Glen
essage- From: pete.peder...@healthonecares.com [mailto:pete.peder...@healthonecares.com] Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2011 2:31 PM To: Dawson, Glen; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu Subject: RE: [Histonet] IHC pos. & neg. control question Glen, If I am to understand you correctly you are saying con

RE: [Histonet] IHC pos. & neg. control question

2011-05-19 Thread Tony Henwood
ailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Jean-Martin Lapointe Sent: Friday, 20 May 2011 7:50 AM To: Angela Bitting; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu Subject: RE: [Histonet] IHC pos. & neg. control question I can certainly agree with that. Whether it’s the patient’s sample or the known po

RE: [Histonet] IHC pos. & neg. control question

2011-05-19 Thread Tony Henwood
ailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of pete.peder...@healthonecares.com Sent: Friday, 20 May 2011 5:31 AM To: gdaw...@dynacaremilwaukee.com; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu Subject: RE: [Histonet] IHC pos. & neg. control question Glen, If I am to understand you correc

RE: [Histonet] IHC pos. & neg. control question

2011-05-19 Thread Thomas Jasper
.@healthonecares.com [mailto:pete.peder...@healthonecares.com] Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2011 2:54 PM To: Thomas Jasper; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu Subject: RE: [Histonet] IHC pos. & neg. control question Thomas, Agreed, however, how can you say with certainty that the control is still good,

RE: [Histonet] IHC pos. & neg. control question

2011-05-19 Thread Pete.Pedersen
...@copc.net] Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2011 1:39 PM To: Pedersen Pete; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu Subject: RE: [Histonet] IHC pos. & neg. control question Pete, When you run a positive control. The tissue is already a known positive (or it should be) for whichever antibody you are run

RE: [Histonet] IHC pos. & neg. control question

2011-05-19 Thread Jean-Martin Lapointe
: Thursday, May 19, 2011 4:50 PM To: Jean-Martin Lapointe; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu Subject: Re: [Histonet] IHC pos. & neg. control question I agree with the majority. A patient slide stained without primary antibody, and a patient section with primary antibody and a known positive con

RE: [Histonet] IHC pos. & neg. control question

2011-05-19 Thread Thomas Jasper
...@dynacaremilwaukee.com; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu Subject: RE: [Histonet] IHC pos. & neg. control question Glen, If I am to understand you correctly you are saying control tissue is not treated the same as patient tissue, therefore is useless as a negative control correct? Then inversely doesn&#x

RE: [Histonet] IHC pos. & neg. control question

2011-05-19 Thread Pete.Pedersen
awson, Glen Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2011 12:32 PM To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu Subject: RE: [Histonet] IHC pos. & neg. control question IMHO: Running any piece of tissue as a control that does not belong to the patient being tested makes zero sense. Because it would not be from the

Re: [Histonet] IHC pos. & neg. control question

2011-05-19 Thread Jan Shivers
I agree 100% with Glen. Jan Shivers UMN VDL - Original Message - From: "Dawson, Glen" To: Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2011 1:32 PM Subject: RE: [Histonet] IHC pos. & neg. control question IMHO: Running any piece of tissue as a control that does not belong to the patien

RE: [Histonet] IHC pos. & neg. control question

2011-05-19 Thread Sebree Linda A
y 19, 2011 1:32 PM To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu Subject: RE: [Histonet] IHC pos. & neg. control question IMHO: Running any piece of tissue as a control that does not belong to the patient being tested makes zero sense. Because it would not be from the patient tissue being tested, ho

RE: [Histonet] IHC pos. & neg. control question

2011-05-19 Thread Dawson, Glen
IMHO: Running any piece of tissue as a control that does not belong to the patient being tested makes zero sense. Because it would not be from the patient tissue being tested, how do you know if it was handled the same as the patient tissue? For example: 1) Were they processed the same way? 2

Re: [Histonet] IHC pos. & neg. control question

2011-05-19 Thread Rene J Buesa
The ideal situation is as follows: a known (+) control with the patient's tissue to make sure that the reaction worked, and a (-) using a section from the patient's tissue to rule out any false (+). René J. From: Curt Tague To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2011 12:0

Re: [Histonet] IHC pos. & neg. control question

2011-05-19 Thread Jay Lundgren
Curt, Nonsense. The negative control is used to evaluate endogenous staining in the *patient* tissue. Your Pathologist needs to do another residency at clown college. Sincerely, Jay A. Lundgren, M.S., HTL (ASCP) __

RE: [Histonet] IHC pos. & neg. control question

2011-05-19 Thread Sebree Linda A
That's a new one on me! Linda A. Sebree University of Wisconsin Hospital & Clinics IHC/ISH Laboratory DB1-223 VAH 600 Highland Ave. Madison, WI 53792 (608)265-6596 -Original Message- From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu [mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On