Re: HSA size on Z9 BC

2006-11-16 Thread Doug Shupe
Geert, Also played 'what if" with the HSA Estimator tool, determined 2GB would be the magic number for us (includes some added room for Dynamic updates). Ours is a z9 EC 2 book, OSA channels are spanned, hipersockets are spanned, ICP are a mix of spanned and shared, 13 LPARs, 2 LCSS, all escon,

Re: iocp /fcp question

2006-11-16 Thread Ron Greve
The Switch shows port type F (options are F, G, FL, GL, Donor) and speed 1Gps. The ChpId shows itself as Chpid type FCP until it is brought online at which point we see the switch link lite get hit and the chpid type (on advanced facilities) changed to Fiber Channel Converted. The switch shows th

Re: Problem Reporting, was: Corrupted IPL Record

2006-11-16 Thread Bill Munson
Don't forget Rita in that very good support group   munson   -Original Message- From: Steve Gentry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Sent: Nov 16, 2006 8:34 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Problem Reporting, was: Corrupted IPL Record I have always had good support experiences with  Kitty, Fr

Re: Problem Reporting, was: Corrupted IPL Record

2006-11-16 Thread Schuh, Richard
It is not just ones being impacted by it who should be considered. Anyone using VM:Secure is a potential victim. That is the consideration that should make this a priority problem. I know that VM:Secure was not at fault in my corrupted IPL record, the problem that prompted the thread. It was not in

Re: HSA size on Z9 BC

2006-11-16 Thread Schuh, Richard
We have a z990 that has a 2G HSA. What are you complaining about? :-) -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dieltiens Geert Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 12:59 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: HSA size on Z9 BC Hi, W

Re: IPL Strangeness

2006-11-16 Thread Schuh, Richard
I thought that a PMR for a one-time problem that could not be reproduced and had no documentation, nothing to analyze, was not likely to be very productive of results. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Kreuter Sent: Wedne

Re: IPL Strangeness

2006-11-16 Thread Schuh, Richard
Neither PSW Restart nor Snapdump works very well when under time pressures to get a system back up. The larger the system, the less well they work. As it now stands, this was a one-time occurrence (first time in my 32 years of working with VM). Since the state of the system was unknown, I think t

Re: CMS Make

2006-11-16 Thread David Boyes
> In the case of update files, the source depends on them. > (Most 'make' driven packages do not employ anything as sophisticated > as CMS UPDATE. Some do use 'patch'.) What we would need is the > "make depend" kind of thing that was already mentioned. What CMS Make > then needs for that is th

Re: IPL Strangeness

2006-11-16 Thread Brian Nielsen
This is a z/VM 5.2 SLU 0501 system that had been up for 7.5 months (last IPL was 3/26/2006). I have not (yet) openned a PMR with IBM. As stated, the dump may be of little value since I had taken down the servers and th e problem wasn't occuring at the time. I'm still shaking my head that I

Re: HSA size on Z9 BC

2006-11-16 Thread Dieltiens Geert
Thanks all for your responses. Luckely I've been a bit conservative when it came to allocating the 8GB on our current CPU (we went from 1GB on a 9672 to 8GB on a z800). Otherwise we may have been in trouble, with "only" 6 or 7 GB os-storage on a z9. Still, for IBM it may be a small step, b

Re: Problem Reporting, was: Corrupted IPL Record

2006-11-16 Thread Steve Gentry
I have always had good support experiences with Kitty, Fran , Yvonne and JR (not listed in any particular order). They've even put up with my rants from time to time and have always been nice to me on the phone. Unfortunately, I can't say the same thing about the VSE support I used to get man

Re: HSA size on Z9 BC

2006-11-16 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message- > From: The IBM z/VM Operating System > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Feller, Paul > Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 7:00 AM > To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU > Subject: Re: HSA size on Z9 BC > > > I'm not at the office so I can't check what the HSA size is

Problem Reporting, was: Corrupted IPL Record

2006-11-16 Thread Bob Bolch
A few weeks ago we were seeing comments like this: > As for the VM:Secure thing, I find that simply documenting how the product can screw > up a system is not only an unacceptable answer, it borders on repugnance. A > strategic product that should always be working should never violate the integri

Re: HSA size on Z9 BC

2006-11-16 Thread Feller, Paul
I'm not at the office so I can't check what the HSA size is for our two z9 boxes. I do know that it is close to 1.3 to 1.5 gig. The larger HSA size started with the z890 and z990 boxes. I agree with what was said about IBM taking customer storage for the HSA. It would be nice if IBM could find

Re: HSA size on Z9 BC

2006-11-16 Thread Steve Gentry
We installed a z9 this past spring, had originally been running a z800. I was surprised at the amount of storage the new HSA used. We didn't use the estimator. We did loose at least a gig of storage. Luckily we weren't memory constrained. The first time I ran into this situation, (many years ag

Re: HSA size on Z9 BC

2006-11-16 Thread Crispin Hugo
W have just had similar experience. We have z9 bc 2 cp 1 ifl 1 zaap 1 zip an 16 gb memory. 4 tb of disc. I could not configure dynamic because it used too much storage as does hypersocket. Our has is 1024mb . The estimator is not too far out Crispin Hugo Systems Programmer, Macro 4

HSA size on Z9 BC

2006-11-16 Thread Dieltiens Geert
Hi, We have been talking to Santa recently and *maybe* this time he will bring us a z9. But I've been told that the HSA on a z9 can be quite large, compared to the current 128 MB on the z800. So I've been playing with the "HSA Estimator tool for z9 BC v2.9.1" on Resource Link. The minimum HS

Re: CMS Make

2006-11-16 Thread Rob van der Heij
On 11/16/06, Rick Troth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: In the case of update files, the source depends on them. Yes. But I would expect a CMS MAKE to know about cntrl and aux files in some smart way. If I had to add each update file to the makefile it's most likely getting the weakest chain in th