VTAM Support

Spinoff from "Re: IBMLink 2000 Finding ESO levels". On Fri, 12 Jan 2007 09:47:59 -0800, Schuh, Richard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrot e: >Apparently VTAM support is not very costly - maybe to us it is, but not >to them. :-) > >Regards, >Richard Schuh Careful, someone might be listening and decide t

Re: IBMLink 2000 Finding ESO levels

On Fri, 12 Jan 2007 00:37:52 -0500, Alan Altmark <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: >On Thursday, 01/11/2007 at 10:21 CST, Alan Ackerman ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I was hoping I wouldn't have to convert. Silly of me to expect them to >come to >> their senses. > >Everyone else gets to webify their "

Re: www.vm.ibm.com

>-Original Message- >From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On >Behalf Of Jim Elliott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Friday, January 12, 2007 2:05 PM >To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU >Subject: www.vm.ibm.com > >The site is not accessible due to problems apparently at AT&T. >T

Re: IBMLink 2000 Finding ESO levels

On Thu, 11 Jan 2007 12:22:32 -0600, Marcy Cortes <[EMAIL PROTECTED] go.com> wrote: >Does this answer what you need to know? > >http://www.vm.ibm.com/service/rsu/rsu_eso.html#VM_ESO > > >Marcy Cortes >WFS Enterprise Hosting Services - z/VM & z/Linux >(415) 243-6343 Yes, that is it! (Today it work

Re: www.vm.ibm.com

But it is a problem for IBM :-) Regards, Richard Schuh -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Elliott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, January 12, 2007 2:05 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: www.vm.ibm.com The site is n

www.vm.ibm.com

The site is not accessible due to problems apparently at AT&T. There is a ticket open with them. This is not an IBM problem. Jim

Re: z/VM 4.4--> 5.2

Don Russell wrote: I'm still unable to get to the www.vm.ibm.com web site and need some information of features/enhancements etc offered by z/VM 5.2 over 4.4. Thank you for the replies, both here and off-list. Cheers, Don

Re: IBMLink 2000 Finding ESO levels

"Maybe it's time for an IBMLINK Vista version!" Delivered on time, fully featured, and rigorously tested. :-) Regards, Richard Schuh

Re: IBMLink 2000 Finding ESO levels

IBMLINK 2000 reminds me of Conan O'Brien's running gag on the Late Show about looking into the future...all the way to the year 2000! :-)> Maybe it's time for an IBMLINK Vista version! Whoops I didn't say that, did I! Happy Friday! Dale R. Smith Technology Services Senior IBM Global Servic

Re: VTAM Program Directory

Any old VTAM Program Directory will do. Nothing has changed in 10 years (except for some maintenance). The one shipped with my z/VM 5.2 system is dated "March 1995". Tom Duerbusch THD Consulting >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1/12/2007 1:18 PM >>> VM/VTAM is a separate product and is not normally shippe

Re: IBMLink 2000 Finding ESO levels

On Jan 12, 2007, at 1:49 PM, Alan Altmark wrote: Find your z/OS brethren. Brethren? I mean, uh Everything I've ever heard or read indicates that z/OS people reproduce by budding. Something asexual, anyway. One of life's major mercies, that. Oh, look. Friday already. Adam

Re: IBMLink 2000 Finding ESO levels

On Friday, 01/12/2007 at 10:33 CST, Mike Walter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The point is we are customers. We should not need to know IBM-internal > buzzwords AMEN! EVERY ONE of you who doesn't like what IBMLink 2000 is/isn't doing needs to send in Feedbacks. Likewise, if you LIKE something

Re: VTAM Program Directory

On Friday, 01/12/2007 at 02:13 EST, Tim Joyce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Since www.vm.ibm.com is still down, does someone happen to know where I can > get a copy of a VTAM Program Directory for z/VM 5.2? It is holding up my > implementation. Tim, the VTAM PD you already have is the correct

Re: VTAM Program Directory

Try .. I am not sure if the program directory is there or not. http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/SHELVES/EZ2ZVM00.bks -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTEC

Re: VTAM Program Directory

I have a VM 4.2 tape, I just need a program directory for directions to install. The link ; http://www.vm.ibm.com/progdir/vtam42pd.pdf is not working. From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stracka, James (GTI) Sent: Friday,

Re: VTAM Program Directory

VM/VTAM is a separate product and is not normally shipped with z/VM. Its current release is 4.2.0. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tim Joyce Sent: Friday, January 12, 2007 2:13 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSE

Re: Rexx performance question

I'd say there's nothing wrong with GLOBALV, but plumbers use their Piping tools. GLOBALV has an extra advantage: it is clear to the reader when one "shares" variables between execs. With a PIPE in a called exec one can do anything that the reader of the calling exec will not be aware off. Somet

VTAM Program Directory

Since www.vm.ibm.com is still down, does someone happen to know where I can get a copy of a VTAM Program Directory for z/VM 5.2? It is holding up my implementation. Tim Joyce Sr. Systems Programmer Alex Lee, Inc. Email : [EMAIL PROTECTED] P

Re: Rexx performance question

We have not heard from Michael Coffin on this subject. IIRC he was very knowledgeable about using GLOBAL variables in REXX code. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Schuh, Richard Sent: Friday, January 12, 2

Re: Rexx performance question

Even a VDISK means lots of overhead: one needs to go down all the way to CP. If variables are more/or less constant, one can store them in a CMS file, directly in a format understood by the VARLOAD stage. /varname/contents... Then one can EXECLOAD that file and code PIPE < MYVARS FILE

Re: Rexx performance question

What is wrong with using GLOBALV? That can be memory-only as indicated in the original post (it specified GET and PUT, not GETS, GETP, PUTS or PUTP). There is no need to write to disk unless you need for the variables to be retained across IPLs or logons (SESSION or LASTING GLOBALV). Since it is st

Re: Rexx performance question

Why not define a vdisk for storing the variables? Definitely faster than the real thing. Steve G Kris Buelens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System 01/12/2007 11:38 AM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc:

Re: IBMLink 2000 Finding ESO levels

Apparently VTAM support is not very costly - maybe to us it is, but not to them. :-) Regards, Richard Schuh -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Walter Sent: Friday, January 12, 2007 8:59 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subj

Re: zVM 4.3 and z9 BC

We do. However, we have z/VM 5.2 in-house, to be installed. We run z/VSE 3.1.2 and OS/390 2.10. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Antonio C Prado Sent: Friday, January 12, 2007 9:35 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: zVM 4

zVM 4.3 and z9 BC

Does anybody know if zVM 4.3 runs on a z9 BC? Thanks, Prado

Re: z/VM 4.4--> 5.2

Don, Tom provides good info. If you want technical details, check the z/VM Migration Guide. It shows in detail what changed are each level. It's an amazing piece of work for which IBM VM Development and IBM Publications are deserving of many thanks and high praise. Mike Walter Hewitt Assoc

Re: IBMLink 2000 Finding ESO levels

>The answer is Yes. That was the answer, sure. But where's the supporting documentation. "Yes Virginia, there really is a Santa Claus". But *I* want proof/supporting doc (**and** a pony!). Mike Walter Hewitt Associates Any opinions expressed herein are mine alone and do not necessarily repr

Re: z/VM 4.4--> 5.2

http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/Shelves/hcsh2a80 The above is the manuals for z/VM 5.2. Including are Introduction guide and the Release guide. Tom Duerbusch THD Consulting >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1/12/2007 10:41 AM >>> I'll send you a 5.2 PDF presentation, it seems to start

Re: z/VM 4.4--> 5.2

I'll send you a 5.2 PDF presentation, it seems to start from 4.4 2007/1/12, Don Russell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: I'm still unable to get to the www.vm.ibm.com web site and need some information of features/enhancements etc offered by z/VM 5.2 over 4.4. We're currently using z/VM 4.4 (32 bit) and I

Re: Rexx performance question

Using a file to store the variables a while, uggghhh... File I/O remains terribly slow compared to memory access, even though you might save some CPU (I don't know if you will save) the result may be code than takes longer to complete in elapsed time. The fact that EXECIO is faster than PIPE to w

Re: IBMLink 2000 Finding ESO levels

To answer your question, "does it REALLY cost IBM anything significant to support a stable application?" The answer is Yes. Just look at IBM cancelling VSE/VSAM support on VM since there have been no changes to it since Y2K. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mail

z/VM 4.4--> 5.2

I'm still unable to get to the www.vm.ibm.com web site and need some information of features/enhancements etc offered by z/VM 5.2 over 4.4. We're currently using z/VM 4.4 (32 bit) and I've been asked to gather some information on the benefits of 5.2. Could somebody please send me some "bullet

Re: IBMLink 2000 Finding ESO levels

Hear, hear, good Sir! I gave IBMLink 2000 several tries over those seven, usually because there was publication of a shiny new release. Even after spending the usual time making a sincere effort to get acquainted with the changes between releases and the differences between greenscreen, it was

Re: Rexx performance question

From my testing, PIPES incur quite a bit of overhead when starting up. So, optimising means doing as much as possible within a PIPE to amortise that overhead over as much work as possible, and therefore using as few PIPE instances as possible. You could write the variables to a temporary disk file

Re: Rexx performance question

Tested that - also much slower than GLOBALV. Kris Buelens <[EMAIL PROTECTED] il.com>

Re: history question

John McKown wrote: > Just for my curiousity. Was CP-67 the first "virtualization engine" ever > produced? Or did some other company have this type of ability before IBM > did it? cp40 predated cp67. the science center really wanted a 360/50 to modify for virtual memory ... but all of the spare 5

Re: Rexx performance question

No, I had not. Thanks, I will try. Kris Buelens <[EMAIL PROTECTED] il.com>

Re: IBMLink 2000 Finding ESO levels

After seven years you would think that they might have a hint that so many of us did not transition because IBMLink 2000 was so bloody awful. > At least the two versions were side-by-side for seven years so that you > could transition to the new one at your own pace. :-) > > Alan Altmark > z/VM

Re: Rexx performance question

Have you tried this too? PIPE LITERAL VAR1 VAR2 VAR3 ...| SPLIT |VARFETCH 1 DIRECT TOLOAD|VARLOAD DIRECT Note: the "DIRECT" tells not to try to resolve compound symbols, this also means one must pass the variable names in uppercase (and stem suffixes in the exact case). -- Kris Buelens, IBM Belg

Rexx performance question

We have an old REXX exec that I had to modify. This is a rather simplistic description but it consists of 2 parts - 1 to set up the environment(variables) and 2 to use the variables setup in 1. Bottom I had problems modifying it so I re-wrote it. The original used GLOBALV extensively - part 1 woul

Re: IBMLink 2000 Finding ESO levels

I have trying to stay on the sidelines of this conversation. However, IBM MUST get their act together on IBMLINK. Every so often I get an email from IBM indicating that a status record has been updated. It took 3 months to get an answer on where I should look and how to look at the updated sta

Re: IBM ServiceLink greenscreen to be discontinued March 31, 2007

On Thu, 11 Jan 2007 22:47:41 -0600 Alan Ackerman said: >>> >a text mode browser that handles https. >> >>Lynx does on Linux, and I believe that Charlotte does on CMS. >>== >Not my copy of Charlotte. Alan - I applied the HTT

SHARE: Chairbear URGENT! ACK!

Heya! Well Martha wasn't kidding. You guys are a difficult audience indeed. I have quite a few sessions still in need of chairs for the VM/Linux program. So you know you're going. You know you want to chair. You know that if you don't, I will start to nag more and more. I can script something to s

Re: IBMLink 2000 Finding ESO levels

On 1/12/07, Alan Altmark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Everyone else gets to webify their "legacy" apps, so why not IBM? We have internal app development shops that are looking for ways to cut support & development costs, too. And those new hires out of college are certainly not very good at 3270