CAVMEN Meeting on Thursday, January 25, 2007 - Late Speaker Change

2007-01-17 Thread Chicago Area VM (and Linux) Enthusiasts
There will be a last minute speaker change for the first quarter meeting of the Chicago Area VM (and Linux) Enthusiasts. For personal reasons, Xenia Tkatschow will be unable to speak at next week's meeting. Replacing her as speaker will be Mr. Bill Bitner of IBM. The agenda will remain the s

Re: z/VM 5.2 conversion IP problem

2007-01-17 Thread Thomas Kern
You mean people actually get paid for this? To be more realistic, I have been able to configure two OSA driven VSWITCHes for separate inside/outside linux servers and to do cross-LPAR communications via a hipersocket, but it is still rather simplistic compared to a raft of point-to-point connecti

Re: z/VM 5.2 conversion IP problem

2007-01-17 Thread Adam Thornton
On Jan 17, 2007, at 4:10 PM, Tom Duerbusch wrote: Hi Adam That might be doable Thursday. I have an AA meeting tonight...just kidding. Got a favorite watering hole in mind? "John's Town Hall" is the place I was thinking of with the fried chicken. Adam

Re: z/VM 5.2 conversion IP problem

2007-01-17 Thread Adam Thornton
On Jan 17, 2007, at 4:10 PM, Tom Duerbusch wrote: Hi Adam That might be doable Thursday. I have an AA meeting tonight...just kidding. Got a favorite watering hole in mind? "My living room" was what I had in mind...I rarely go out to drink: see the first panel of http://www.fsf.net/~adam/

Re: z/VM 5.2 conversion IP problem

2007-01-17 Thread Tom Duerbusch
Hi Adam That might be doable Thursday. I have an AA meeting tonight...just kidding. Got a favorite watering hole in mind? Tom Duerbusch THD Consulting >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1/17/2007 2:23 PM >>> On Jan 17, 2007, at 1:58 PM, Tom Duerbusch wrote: > I wish I was hung over or something in order t

Re: z/VM 5.2 conversion IP problem

2007-01-17 Thread David Boyes
> See the attached PDF diagram -- it might help you to understand the > overall approach. All the white circles in the diagram need to have > unique IP addresses, and the ones on the ends of the CTC/IUCV links need > addresses in the same subnet. Blech. The attachment got stripped by the mailing

Re: z/VM 5.2 conversion IP problem

2007-01-17 Thread Shimon Lebowitz
> Collections of real-world network pictures and their matching configs > would be an excellent candidate for the Wiki. Where is this Wiki???

Re: z/VM 5.2 conversion IP problem

2007-01-17 Thread Alan Altmark
On Wednesday, 01/17/2007 at 03:11 CST, Thomas Kern <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Perhaps now would be a good time for IBM to release a tutorial for the > pre-5.2 -> 5.2+ migrations. Lots of real-life examples and examples of > migration from oldder network architectures to the new GuestLans/Vswitch

Re: z/VM 5.2 conversion IP problem

2007-01-17 Thread Adam Thornton
On Jan 17, 2007, at 2:58 PM, Tom Duerbusch wrote: So, in the latest post towards Miguel: 1. I do need a HOME statement for each interface, 30 some odd HOME statementsright? If you have VCTCs hanging off each of them, yes. 2. The IP statement on the HOME statement: a. Cannot dupli

Re: z/VM 5.2 conversion IP problem

2007-01-17 Thread Tom Duerbusch
Hi Tom I think they have a pretty good tutorial for the Guest Lan / Vswitch side. It is in the Connectivity Guide. However... If you don't have OSA or multiple adapters (i.e. you don't have a good chance to test things), it can be scarry. I wouldn't touch it on my MP3000 as we only had a singl

Re: z/VM 5.2 conversion IP problem

2007-01-17 Thread Miguel Delapaz
My other post goes into more detail on the answers to these...but I'll reiterate here > 1. I do need a HOME statement for each interface, 30 some odd HOME > statementsright? Essentially, yes. > 2. The IP statement on the HOME statement: > a. Cannot duplicate any other IP address in

Re: z/VM 5.2 conversion IP problem

2007-01-17 Thread David Boyes
Tom, See the attached PDF diagram -- it might help you to understand the overall approach. All the white circles in the diagram need to have unique IP addresses, and the ones on the ends of the CTC/IUCV links need addresses in the same subnet. > 1. I do need a HOME statement for each interface

Re: z/VM 5.2 conversion IP problem

2007-01-17 Thread Miguel Delapaz
> Of course this throws things off even more as on the z/VM 5.1 system, I > only had the single HOME entry (for 205.235.227.74) and I had (working > correctly) about 3 dozen other interfaces. Attached is the old config > file for z/VM 5.1. I agree that I may have gotten away with things that > no

Re: z/VM 5.2 conversion IP problem

2007-01-17 Thread Shimon Lebowitz
Quoting Tom Duerbusch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hi Stephen > > Since VM/ESA 370 mode, I don't think I ever had HOME statements for > anything other than my VM system. That includes last week when we were > on z/VM 5.1. Now, I think I'm being told that I need a HOME statement > for each link statem

Re: z/VM 5.2 conversion IP problem

2007-01-17 Thread Thomas Kern
Perhaps now would be a good time for IBM to release a tutorial for the pre-5.2 -> 5.2+ migrations. Lots of real-life examples and examples of migration from oldder network architectures to the new GuestLans/Vswitch architectures and then onto the VLAN stuff. Please remember that most of the VM aud

Re: z/VM 5.2 conversion IP problem

2007-01-17 Thread Tom Duerbusch
Hi Allen I'm starting to see where you are coming from with this. Obviously, historically, there have been multiple ways of coding these entries. And I have been able to get away with my way for a couple decades (not bad, huh?) But it may be time to pay the piper on this one. It didn't last qu

Re: z/VM 5.2 conversion IP problem

2007-01-17 Thread Alan Altmark
On Wednesday, 01/17/2007 at 02:10 CST, Tom Duerbusch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Since VM/ESA 370 mode, I don't think I ever had HOME statements for > anything other than my VM system. That includes last week when we were > on z/VM 5.1. Now, I think I'm being told that I need a HOME statement

Re: z/VM 5.2 conversion IP problem

2007-01-17 Thread Adam Thornton
On Jan 17, 2007, at 2:34 PM, Ed Zell wrote: I wish I was hung over or something in order to have a valid excuse on this one. Could be arranged. For tomorrow, anyway. Come on over. I'm expecting to knock off work about five today. Can I come too please? Maybe I can learn to tone down my react

Re: z/VM 5.2 conversion IP problem

2007-01-17 Thread Ed Zell
>> I wish I was hung over or something in order to have a valid excuse >> on this one. > Could be arranged. For tomorrow, anyway. > > Come on over. I'm expecting to knock off work about five today. Can I come too please? Maybe I can learn to tone down my reaction to listserv posts. Sorry I

Re: z/VM 5.2 conversion IP problem

2007-01-17 Thread Adam Thornton
On Jan 17, 2007, at 1:58 PM, Tom Duerbusch wrote: I wish I was hung over or something in order to have a valid excuse on this one. Could be arranged. For tomorrow, anyway. Come on over. I'm expecting to knock off work about five today. Adam

Re: z/VM 5.2 conversion IP problem

2007-01-17 Thread Tom Duerbusch
Hi Stephen Since VM/ESA 370 mode, I don't think I ever had HOME statements for anything other than my VM system. That includes last week when we were on z/VM 5.1. Now, I think I'm being told that I need a HOME statement for each link statement. And now told that these few dozen HOME statements,

Re: VM64152 Re: Performance Toolkit

2007-01-17 Thread Thomas Kern
Even though I do not run R440, I applaude your efforts in releasing this PERFKIT fix. Having such a useful component of my system "dead in the wat er" during a migration would leave a very bad feeling towards the vendor. Congradulations on doing the right thing. /Tom Kern On Wed, 17 Jan 2007 10

Re: z/VM 5.2 conversion IP problem

2007-01-17 Thread Tom Duerbusch
Hi Ed, not a problem. I might be intelligent in some areas, but I'm hitting a brick wall with a dense head, here . I wish I was hung over or something in order to have a valid excuse on this one. Tom Duerbusch THD Consulting >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1/17/2007 1:17 PM >>> > Two people have told yo

Re: z/VM 5.2 conversion IP problem

2007-01-17 Thread Ed Zell
> Two people have told you this. Maybe, if three do you will believe it. Wow Stephen, are you having a bad day or what? Cut Tom some slack here. He is an intelligent guy who is having a problem. Just because YOU get what he needs to change doesn't mean he does. Haven't you ever had difficulty

Re: z/VM 5.2 conversion IP problem

2007-01-17 Thread Alan Altmark
On Wednesday, 01/17/2007 at 11:32 CST, Tom Duerbusch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm still having problems after last nights tests... > > Where Miguel says you don't have to have a HOST entry, when I leave it > out, I don't get connected. When I put one in, I do get connected (but > routing is

Re: z/VM 5.2 conversion IP problem

2007-01-17 Thread Stephen Frazier
You see the HOME statement. You see the 192.168.099.227 in the HOME statement. That must not be the same as the address of the Linux system. It is the same. I must be different. Two people have told you this. Maybe, if three do you will believe it. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is different. Bu

Re: z/VM 5.2 conversion IP problem

2007-01-17 Thread Miguel Delapaz
The IBM z/VM Operating System wrote on 01/17/2007 10:12:26 AM: > It is different. But we might be talking about "different" things: > > HOME > 205.235.227.74 255.255.255.000 QDIO1 > ; 192.168.099.227 HOST > ; HOST PRODUCES: DTCPAR123I LINE 211: UNKNOWN LINK NAME IN HOME CMD > > 192.168

Re: VM64152 Re: Performance Toolkit

2007-01-17 Thread Roger Lunsford
Folks, R440 is OUT OF SERVICE, and if you want "extended service" for R44 0 then let us know and we can get someone to contact you. Thie particular PERFKIT R440 "fix" is something we discussed quite a bit 'in-house' and thought it was the 'right thing' to make this availabl e to our Perfkit R440

Re: z/VM 5.2 conversion IP problem

2007-01-17 Thread Tom Duerbusch
It is different. But we might be talking about "different" things: HOME 205.235.227.74 255.255.255.000 QDIO1 ; 192.168.099.227 HOST ; HOST PRODUCES: DTCPAR12

Re: z/VM 5.2 conversion IP problem

2007-01-17 Thread Miguel Delapaz
I believe Alan brought this up yesterday, but I'll mention it again...the IP address on you VM system (in your HOME statement) *MUST* be different from the IP address on your linux system (i.e. the IP address on the HOST GATEWAY route): > HOME > 192.168.099.227 255.255.255.000 LLINUX27 > GA

Re: z/VM 5.2 conversion IP problem

2007-01-17 Thread Tom Duerbusch
I'm still having problems after last nights tests... Where Miguel says you don't have to have a HOST entry, when I leave it out, I don't get connected. When I put one in, I do get connected (but routing is still off). I'm now using the IUCV connection to a SLES9 31 bit with SP 1 machine that was

Re: Extracting MACLIB members

2007-01-17 Thread michael_short
You can also use: PIPE MEMBERS fn ft fm member > member a -- Original message -- From: Tony Thigpen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I don't work with maclibs very much. I have a maclib full of members > that I want to extract to individual members on a cms disk. I can

Re: Extracting MACLIB members

2007-01-17 Thread Colleen Brown
Don't forget ...there is always the PUNCH command with the Member option: MEMber * MEMber membername punches members of MACLIBs or TXTLIBs. If an asterisk (*) is entered, all individual members of that macro or text library are punched. If membername is specified, only that me

Re: Extracting MACLIB members

2007-01-17 Thread Tony Thigpen
that worked. thanks. Tony Thigpen -Original Message - From: Stracka, James (GTI) Sent: 01/17/2007 08:43 AM Try MOVEFILE. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tony Thigpen Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 8:33 AM To: I

Re: Extracting MACLIB members

2007-01-17 Thread Peter Rothman
Use the member option of XEDIT and then file it away. Tony Thigpen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Extracting MACLIB members

2007-01-17 Thread Stracka, James (GTI)
Try MOVEFILE. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tony Thigpen Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 8:33 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Extracting MACLIB members I don't work with maclibs very much. I have a maclib full of m

Extracting MACLIB members

2007-01-17 Thread Tony Thigpen
I don't work with maclibs very much. I have a maclib full of members that I want to extract to individual members on a cms disk. I can't seem to find the right command. For one or two, I usually just do a maclist and xedit the members to save them but in this case, I need to extract about 100.

Re: VM64152 Re: Performance Toolkit

2007-01-17 Thread Nick Laflamme
Kurt Acker wrote: Greetings Perfkit users and ListServ followers, PERF440 PACKMOD has been placed back on the FTP with the other mods. For our records, we would still like customers to open PMR's at all release levels. Please also note that the r440 version will not become an official part