Re: DASD cylinders

2007-03-07 Thread Jim Bohnsack
I'm glad that, as a struggling math major in college in the mid-60's, I went into computers instead of trying to keep up with higher math such as the number of cylinders on a disk. I thought that an orthogon was a type of crooked 4-sided shape but Google says: '*Orthogonal*' means mutually ind

Re: High Level Assembler

2007-03-07 Thread Alan Altmark
On Thursday, 03/08/2007 at 11:45ZE11, Graeme Moss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > - RACF (I have read CMS Assembler is OK) For CMS (RACF server, RPI modules) that may work, but not for assembly of the CP extensions. Alan Altmark z/VM Development IBM Endicott

Re: DASD cylinders

2007-03-07 Thread Alan Altmark
On Wednesday, 03/07/2007 at 09:32 EST, "Bates, Bob [CCC-OT_IT]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I was fixing an exec with this just yesterday and ran into the same problem. I > thought I had an easy solution those months ago by altering 3390-0A to 3390-3 > and 3390-0C to 3390-9. Then the 3390-27'

Re: Issuing HX from Rexx

2007-03-07 Thread Alan Altmark
On Wednesday, 03/07/2007 at 02:39 CST, "Ian S. Worthington" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is there some way for a rexx subroutine to simulate an HX? ie I don't > want the called procedure to return to its caller, but execution of the > whole program to halt as if HX had been entered. Not directly

High Level Assembler

2007-03-07 Thread Graeme Moss
Fellow Listers, I have been asked if we need High Level Assembler. We have three exits that I know of - VMSECURE but this can be done in REXX. - RACF (I have read CMS Assembler is OK) - RSCS - still to be examined Does any-one know of a product that we need HLA & HLATK for. We run zVM 5.2 with C

Re: DASD cylinders

2007-03-07 Thread Rick Troth
> --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Does Hercules emulate 2311's ?? On Wed, 7 Mar 2007, Dave Wade wrote: > Yes, its fine with smaller DASD. It will also emulate > larger than normal FBA. However there are some issues > with larger devices, when the file used to contain the > image goes over 2GB. N

Re: DASD cylinders

2007-03-07 Thread Rick Troth
> > We've just been honoring the 3390 all these years by trying to do things > > they would have done them. Had FBA been more popular at the time of the > > real 3390's, we might be seeing 3350 mod 81's instead. Maybe that would be 3370 mod 81? Or 9336 model something? On Tue, 6 Mar 2007, David

Re: Issuing HX from Rexx

2007-03-07 Thread Chris Langford
Down & dirty but works -- --- begin code execflag_addr='5E6' /* x'5E6' is the address of EXECFLAG in NUCON assemble Release 5.1 */ execflag=storage(execflag_addr,1) /* Get current value of EXECFLAG */ new=bitor(execflag,'10'x)

Re: DASD cylinders

2007-03-07 Thread Dave Wade
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Does Hercules emulate 2311's ?? > > Yes, its fine with smaller DASD. It will also emulate larger than normal FBA. However there are some issues with larger devices, when the file used to contain the image goes over 2GB. __

Re: Issuing HX from Rexx

2007-03-07 Thread Schuh, Richard
No good from a disconnected machine because a read will be posted, even if you queue a response. The best bet that I know of is to have the caller test return codes and exit the subroutine with one that signifies that it has traversed into an area where the doo doo is exceedingly deep. Regar

Re: Dirmaint

2007-03-07 Thread Dave Wade
You might want to choose a different period to 31 days. If you choose 31 the passwords will start expiring at the week end, and you may get extra service calls on Modays because folks have problems. --- "Benedict, Martin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Help! > > We have set up the 31 day requir

Re: Issuing HX from Rexx

2007-03-07 Thread Huegel, Thomas
How about #cp ext ? -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Ian S. Worthington Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 2:39 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Issuing HX from Rexx Is there some way for a rexx subroutine to simulate an HX?

Re: Issuing HX from Rexx

2007-03-07 Thread Peter . Webb
Well, a bit drastic, but you could always do "CP IPL CMS PARM AUTOCR". -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ian S. Worthington Sent: March 7, 2007 15:39 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Issuing HX from Rexx Is there some way for

Issuing HX from Rexx

2007-03-07 Thread Ian S. Worthington
Is there some way for a rexx subroutine to simulate an HX? ie I don't want the called procedure to return to its caller, but execution of the whole program to halt as if HX had been entered. ian ...

Re: Spool/page devices online at ipl

2007-03-07 Thread Stephen Frazier
You probably changed the order of the spool volumes. That will force the spool to be empty. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Without using the cookbook (where would I find it?), I updated the system config and relabelled the dasd a couple of weeks ago. It came up, said it couldn't find spool and dele

Re: Spool/page devices online at ipl

2007-03-07 Thread Stephen Frazier
During the IPL VM reads the SYSTEM CONFIG file to find the spool and page volumes. About the only thing that is done before SYSTEM CONFIG is loading the VM nucleus. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This extends a question I had earlier about DDRing spool and page dasd and conflicts with device names at

Re: Spool/page devices online at ipl

2007-03-07 Thread Mary Anne Matyaz
FYI, the cookbooks are redbooks, one for RHEL: http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/sg247272.html?Open and one for SLES: http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/sg246695.html?Open MA On 3/7/07, Little, Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Without using the cookbook (where would I find it?), I upda

OT: New Math (was Re: DASD cylinders)

2007-03-07 Thread Brian Nielsen
On Wed, 7 Mar 2007 09:18:14 -0800, Schuh, Richard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote : >Guess it should have been a problem involving a 3 digit number with 0 >for the middle digit. Then, a base of -17 would be equivalent to a base >of +17. True, but that doesn't mean there's no solution. Are you willin

Re: Hitachi Disk

2007-03-07 Thread Shimon Lebowitz
We are running a NSC55 over escon wih z/VM 4.4: Q CPLEVEL Z/VM VERSION 4 RELEASE 4.0, SERVICE LEVEL 0404 (32-BIT) GENERATED AT 01/03/05 16:17:30 JLM IPL AT 02/27/07 21:57:41 JLM READY; T=0.01/0.01 20:24:40 No additional PTFs beyond the RSU level. Shimon On 7 Mar 2007 at 9:36, [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Spool/page devices online at ipl

2007-03-07 Thread Kris Buelens
You must have made another error: if you relabel and change all labels in SYSTEM CONFIG, the SPOOL must be found. You must find the the labels in the CP OWNED list and the one disk for Checkpoint+Warm start area (by default on the resident). If you forget the changes in the CP directory, no mini

Re: DASD cylinders

2007-03-07 Thread Schuh, Richard
Send it to him via e-mail :-) Regards, Richard Schuh -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Adam Thornton Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 9:57 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: DASD cylinders On Mar 7, 2007, at 11:00 A

Re: DASD cylinders

2007-03-07 Thread Adam Thornton
On Mar 7, 2007, at 11:18 AM, Schuh, Richard wrote: Guess it should have been a problem involving a 3 digit number with 0 for the middle digit. Then, a base of -17 would be equivalent to a base of +17. Well, now we know what base we're calculating in where 54 = 3 * 27, which incidentally a

Re: DASD cylinders

2007-03-07 Thread Adam Thornton
On Mar 7, 2007, at 11:00 AM, Brian Nielsen wrote: On Tue, 6 Mar 2007 15:57:31 -0600, Adam Thornton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'll give you a dollar if you can show me a base in which 54 is more than two and a half times as big as 27. A long time ago I read a mathematical paper on some inter

Re: Spool/page devices online at ipl

2007-03-07 Thread Mary Anne Matyaz
You'd have to change user direct as well, do a change/oldvol/newvol/* * to get them all. Once we had to format the pack as spool prior to the ddr but other times not. 99% of the time we have to force the spool anyway, but don't have to rebuild the segments. MA On 3/7/07, Little, Chris <[EMAIL PRO

Re: Spool/page devices online at ipl

2007-03-07 Thread Little, Chris
Without using the cookbook (where would I find it?), I updated the system config and relabelled the dasd a couple of weeks ago. It came up, said it couldn't find spool and deleted it all. From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On B

Re: DASD cylinders

2007-03-07 Thread Schuh, Richard
Guess it should have been a problem involving a 3 digit number with 0 for the middle digit. Then, a base of -17 would be equivalent to a base of +17. Regards, Richard Schuh -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Nielsen Se

HCPEVDBK COPY

2007-03-07 Thread Ken Vance
Hi, One of the developers was trying to find the event data block. It is referred to in the following: 00088 Bitstring6 PCCEVTBF Information common to all READ/ WRITE EVENT DATA commands. Note - HCPEV

Re: DASD cylinders

2007-03-07 Thread Brian Nielsen
On Tue, 6 Mar 2007 15:57:31 -0600, Adam Thornton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I'll give you a dollar if you can show me a base in which 54 is more >than two and a half times as big as 27. Converting to mathematical terms: j=54 k=27 n=2.5 You want j/k > n, where j and k are in base b. Expressin

Re: Dirmaint

2007-03-07 Thread PDDitzer
Martin, I don't have it specified in our SYSTEM CONFIG, but if you look in the z/VM: CP Planning and Administration manual, specifically Chapter 6: The System Configuration File, under the subject of the JOURNALing STATEMENT, pages 163 thru 166, it discusses this item, as well as gives you example

Re: Spool/page devices online at ipl

2007-03-07 Thread Schuh, Richard
They cannot be initialized before reading the CONFIG file because it is possible to have different sysown lists in different files. Regards, Richard Schuh -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Little, Chris Sent: Wednesday, Marc

Re: Dirmaint

2007-03-07 Thread Mark Pace
On 3/7/07, Martin Benedict <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I have looked all through the 'SYSTEM CONFIG' file and could not locate any reference for locking out users when password was entered incorrectly. Could you possibly post a section of yours so that I can see where and what it is? Look at J

Re: DASD cylinders

2007-03-07 Thread Schuh, Richard
You can always retrieve the maximum cylinder from the RDEV. Here is a little EXEC that can be called as a function or a command. Appropriate class required. /* */ arg oad . maxcyl = '' mr

Re: Spool/page devices online at ipl

2007-03-07 Thread Mary Anne Matyaz
You can ddr it and then relabel it prior to IPLing the copy. Just change user direct and system config on the copy. There is an example of relabeling in the cookbook p 57. MA On 3/7/07, David Kreuter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ... but you should take any means necessary to avoid duplicate label

Re: Dirmaint

2007-03-07 Thread Martin Benedict
I have looked all through the 'SYSTEM CONFIG' file and could not locate any reference for locking out users when password was entered incorrectly. Could you possibly post a section of yours so that I can see where and what it is?

Re: SPXTAPE alternatives

2007-03-07 Thread achang
Thank you all for the information ! ! Ann The information contained in this message may be CONFIDENTIAL and is for the intended addressee only. Any unauthorized use, dissemination of the information, or copying of this message is prohibited. If you are not the intended addressee, please n

Re: Realy simple pipe insert ? .. Thanks Rob

2007-03-07 Thread Huegel, Thomas
Thanks Rob, Nice explaination too. I'll go away now. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Rob van der Heij Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 9:05 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Realy simple pipe insert ? Frequently plumbi

Re: SPXTAPE alternatives

2007-03-07 Thread Thomas Kern
John was suggesting that a new program be added to the Downloads website. I don't think there are any packages there now that deal with saving/restoring DCSSes/NSSes/etc. The download website is: http://www.vm.ibm.com/download/packages/ There are LOTS of usable programs there even if they are OL

Re: SPXTAPE alternatives

2007-03-07 Thread Jim Bohnsack
Sorry all. Apparently I wasn't very clear. I was responding to Chris Langford's posting regarding *his *program to do this function. I agree that it would be very useful and is something that I really hope he makes available either on the VM Download site or thru the less formal but equally

Re: SPXTAPE alternatives

2007-03-07 Thread achang
Is this available VM down load site ? What's the pgm name and doc ? Can I have url for the VM Download site ? Thanks, Ann "Jim Bohnsack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: "The IBM z/VM Operating System" 03/07/2007 09:31 AM Please respond to "The IBM z/VM Operating System" To IBMVM@LISTSER

Re: Dirmaint

2007-03-07 Thread Michael Short
Look in the SYSTEM CONFIG file. There is a section telling how many attempts for logging to the operator, how many before disabling. You can also tell how long to disable the account. On 3/7/07, Benedict, Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Help! We have set up the 31 day requirement for a us

Dirmaint

2007-03-07 Thread Benedict, Martin
Help! We have set up the 31 day requirement for a user to change their CMS password. I have been through most of the DirMaint config files and have not located anything resembling an exec that would disable a users CMS id if they entered their password incorrectly 3 or more times. If thi

Re: Realy simple pipe insert ?

2007-03-07 Thread Huegel, Thomas
One bad apple spoils the whole bunch, even if it is a good prune, when you think you are eating an apple it pretty much spoils the whole day. Indeed 5 prunes is very bad, that is why we need indoor plumbing, but once I insert my orange and get rid of that first prune I can consider it a royal flush

Re: Spool/page devices online at ipl

2007-03-07 Thread David Kreuter
... but you should take any means necessary to avoid duplicate labels! ... David From: The IBM z/VM Operating System on behalf of Kris Buelens Sent: Wed 3/7/2007 10:03 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: [IBMVM] Spool/page devices online at ipl ONLINE/OF

Re: help

2007-03-07 Thread William Munson
Marty, What do you need HELP with? Bill Munson IT Specialist Office of Information Technology State of New Jersey (609) 984-4065 President MVMUA http://www.marist.edu/~mvmua Benedict, Martin wrote: Help

Re: Realy simple pipe insert ?

2007-03-07 Thread Rob van der Heij
Frequently plumbing is easier to operate on a record rather than a set of records. Most of us will resort to some kind of "sipping pipeline" that operates on such a single set (rather than a stream of sets). If you need something that will look at two adjacent records, it sometimes helps to do th

Re: Spool/page devices online at ipl

2007-03-07 Thread Kris Buelens
ONLINE/OFFLINE in SYSTEM CONFIG is OK. Only the resident is online at that time. 2007/3/7, Little, Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: This extends a question I had earlier about DDRing spool and page dasd and conflicts with device names at ipl (ie the DDRed spool and page volumes share the same volser

Re: help

2007-03-07 Thread Peter . Webb
Could we have a little more information, please? -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Benedict, Martin Sent: March 7, 2007 09:56 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: help Help The information transmitted is intended only for the p

help

2007-03-07 Thread Benedict, Martin
Help

Spool/page devices online at ipl

2007-03-07 Thread Little, Chris
This extends a question I had earlier about DDRing spool and page dasd and conflicts with device names at ipl (ie the DDRed spool and page volumes share the same volser as production). Will using the "DEVICE ONLINE"/"DEVICE OFFLINE" statement in SYSTEM CONFIG prevent that from occuring? Or are sp

Re: Hitachi Disk

2007-03-07 Thread Eric Schadow
Peter On this IBM page http://www.ibm.com/support/us/ Try searching for "2105DEVICE" in the search box in the middle of the page, This will pull up all the SHARK Buckets. Also you should press your vendor for help... I would think they do some type of systems assurance that would cover need

Re: Realy simple pipe insert ?

2007-03-07 Thread Hughes, Jim - OIT
Have you no pride?? Before we get carried away down a rat hole, what you expect to happen if there were 5 prunes following apple? Also, how about posing all your questions at once?? Is someone paying you to ask these questions Or are they paying you for the answers?

Hitachi Disk

2007-03-07 Thread Peter . Webb
Hi, I was wondering if anyone has experience with hooking up an Hitachi TagmaStore (model NSC55) disk unit to a mainframe. Specifically I would like to know: 1) PTFs needed to run the Hitachi through Escon channels to z/VM 3.1 2) PTFs needed to run it through Ficon channels to z/VM 5.2 3) Are t

Re: DASD cylinders

2007-03-07 Thread Bates, Bob [CCC-OT_IT]
I was fixing an exec with this just yesterday and ran into the same problem. I thought I had an easy solution those months ago by altering 3390-0A to 3390-3 and 3390-0C to 3390-9. Then the 3390-27's showed up and still got translated as 3390-0C. Whoops. Ended up creating a table for each of th

Re: SPXTAPE alternatives

2007-03-07 Thread Jim Bohnsack
That would make a great addition to the VM Download site. There are real shortcomings to DCSSBKUP & DCSSRSAV, namely losing the creation date and only being able to handle DCSS's, ie not NSS's and the other files you mentioned. Jim Chris Langford wrote: I have a program that will backup to

Re: Realy simple pipe insert ?

2007-03-07 Thread Huegel, Thomas
This is so cool I am getting you guys to write my pipe and I am getting paid for it. NOW .. Let's suppose that sometimes there is a PRUNE following that APPLE. I don't want to mix PRUNE's with APPLES and ORANGES so how can I get rid of that nasty PRUNE? But ONLY if it is immediatly following APPLE.

Re: DASD cylinders

2007-03-07 Thread Jim Elliott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> How then do I have actual volumes on my system of 32,760 cyls. > That's not divisible by 1113 (ds8000 here). Marcy: Sorry, I was not clear. Allocation is in multiples of 1113 cylinders. You can make a volume whatever size you want, but if it is not a multiple of 1113 cylinders, the remainder up

Re: DASD cylinders

2007-03-07 Thread Jim Bohnsack
No, the 2311 "pack" was 7.25 MB. I may have some doc at home that has some geometry info. Jim Tom Duerbusch wrote: Wow... 9 MB per pack. We'll never use it all . And, they are demountable too. Tom Duerbusch THD Consulting -- Jim Bohnsack Cornell University (607) 255-1760 [EMAIL P

Re: LPD from Linux versus VAX

2007-03-07 Thread Peter E. Carrier
Hi, It seems that the file is now coming from a Linux box via the CUPS printing subsystem. No one know what was done on the VAX side before because no one here knows VAX anymore. So, assuming this was a straight ASCII file with ASCII carriage control, is there a standard filter I would use