Re: Hackers

2007-04-24 Thread Jan de Wet - BCX - Data Centre Services
And then there was the VM Virus (from this list) *** YOU HAVE NOW RECEIVED THE VM VIRUS This virus works on the honor system: If you're running a VM/ESA or z/VM, please forward this message to everyone you know and delete a bunch of your files at random. Jan de

Journal

2007-04-24 Thread Schuh, Richard
Are there query and set command that will display and change the current lockout interval when journal is on? I know, set journal off sets it to 0, so no one need give that as an option.:-) Regards, Richard Schuh

Re: User_Volume_list limit of 500 volumes...

2007-04-24 Thread Davis, Larry
Use or look at the "USER_VOLUME_INCLUDE" statement which allows for VOLSER naming conventions in my case I use "USER_VOLUME_INCLUDE VP*" because 99% of our VM Volumes start with VP with varying last 4 characters. Larry Davis -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:

Re: User_Volume_list limit of 500 volumes...

2007-04-24 Thread Tom Duerbusch
Use generic VOLSERs (?). Something like: 520* VM31* Tom Duerbusch THD Consulting >>> dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 4/24/2007 2:10 PM >>> Hi, gang. The is a limit of 50o0 volumes that can be specified on the USER_VOLUME_LIST statement in SYSTEM CONFIG. what do I do if I have more than 500 volumes?

Re: User_Volume_list limit of 500 volumes...

2007-04-24 Thread O'Brien, Dennis L
Dave, Use wildcards on USER_VOLUME_INCLUDE. If you have more than 500 volumes, you must have some sort of naming convention that lends itself to wildcards. USER_VOLUME_EXCLUDE can be used to exclude volumes that match a wildcard, but that you don't want attached to SYSTEM.

Re: Hackers

2007-04-24 Thread Schuh, Richard
I am more interested in documented cases of hackers actually penetrating a system. I am especially interested in penetrations of VM/ESA or later systems. Regards, Richard Schuh -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Daniel P. Mar

User_Volume_list limit of 500 volumes...

2007-04-24 Thread dave
Hi, gang. The is a limit of 50o0 volumes that can be specified on the USER_VOLUME_LIST statement in SYSTEM CONFIG. what do I do if I have more than 500 volumes? TIA. DJ

Re: Hackers

2007-04-24 Thread Schuh, Richard
If it happens on 1 system, that is 1 too many. People need to think about the potential consequences of not heeding the advice that can be found almost everywhere about not leaving the starter system passwords on directory entries. Before things became so shrink-wrapped, I made it a habit of not p

Re: Hackers

2007-04-24 Thread David L. Craig
On Tue, Apr 24, 2007 at 02:00:28PM -0400, David Kreuter wrote: > Was this the stuff 'bout changing CCWs downstream > through one of the DIAG interfaces? Yes. I believe the exploit was called Hugo. Melinda Varian had something to do with its analysis. The details were kept pretty quiet. You ca

Re: Hackers

2007-04-24 Thread David Kreuter
Richard Schuh said: >Anyone who leaves the default passwords on the maintenance ids is a fool >and deserves whatever happens, especially if it is a highly privileged >userid. ... happens more often on more systems than it should ... even today ...

Re: Hackers

2007-04-24 Thread Schuh, Richard
Anyone who leaves the default passwords on the maintenance ids is a fool and deserves whatever happens, especially if it is a highly privileged userid. Back when the userid IBMCE was universal, I changed its password to AMDAHL. There was one IBM SE at the shop who refused to log on to the id, even

Re: $PAGE$ Question

2007-04-24 Thread Edward M. Martin
Hello Kris Buelens, Please send copy to me too. Ed Martin Aultman Health Foundation 330-588-4723 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ext. 40441 From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kris Buelens Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 12:48 PM To

Re: Best procedure to migrate dedicated VSE volume to VM minidisk

2007-04-24 Thread Edward M. Martin
Hello Tim and everyone else, Yes z/VM (VM/SP too) handles the VTOC of VSE very well. You will need to make sure that you update the label of the volume on VSE, make sure that you let z/VM know about it. Ed Martin Aultman Health Foundation 330-588-4723 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ext. 40441 _

Re: Hackers

2007-04-24 Thread David Kreuter
Was this the stuff 'bout changing CCWs downstream through one of the DIAG interfaces? David -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System on behalf of Daniel P. Martin Sent: Tue 4/24/2007 1:55 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: [IBMVM] Hackers There's an article in th

Re: Hackers

2007-04-24 Thread Daniel P. Martin
Found it online. Should have looked before clicking "SEND". Here's the abstract: -- tear here --- Penetrating an operating system: a study of VM/370 integrity by C. R. Attanasio, P. W. Markstein, R. J. Phillips Discussed is a methodology for discovering operating system design flaws as an

Re: Hackers

2007-04-24 Thread Daniel P. Martin
There's an article in the IBM Systems Journal, some time in the late 1970's, that discusses what amounts to a penetration test study of that vintage of VM. If I recall correctly, the authors exposed some interesting quirks in the I/O subsystem as the major exposure to mischief. I've got a cop

Re: Hackers

2007-04-24 Thread David Kreuter
I have a distant recollection of back in the 80's some youngster climbed into a vm system at Los Alamos and logged onto MAINT with the password CPCMS !! Don't know if this urban legend or actual but I recall it as actual. This must have been an illegal climb through either dial up or early VTAM.

Re: TCPNJE

2007-04-24 Thread Schuh, Richard
Thanks for the clarification. It seems that more and more things need clarification these days. Regards, Richard Schuh -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alan Altmark Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2007 10:14 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UA

Re: Hackers

2007-04-24 Thread Schuh, Richard
Truly hacked into. FWIW, I don't consider a crude chain-mail attempt to be a worm. I also do not consider a penetration of a guest such as Linux to be a penetration of VM. Regards, Richard Schuh -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf

Re: Hackers

2007-04-24 Thread Mike Walter
Well, if you include IBM'ers.. maybe the infamous XMASTREE EXEC could be considered as a DOS attack against IBM Vnet nodes. ;-) But that is not at all the same as a hacker penetration. Mike Walter Hewitt Associates Any opinions expressed herein are mine alone and do not necessarily represent

Re: Best procedure to migrate dedicated VSE volume to VM minidisk

2007-04-24 Thread Thomas Kern
VM only puts a VTOC on a volume when you initialize it. It will gladly accept VM labels from other systems, MVS labels, VSE labels, even Linux labels. When running MVS under VM, I always let the MVS people label thei r own volumes even when they have duplicate labels. And it is okay with any of th

Re: Hackers

2007-04-24 Thread Thomas Kern
Do you mean 'truly hacked into' or just an annoying worm? I know of a worm initiated at another VM site and of compromised password s used by insiders, but not any full-fledged hack by outsiders. /Tom Kern /301-903-2211 On Tue, 24 Apr 2007 09:33:42 -0700, Schuh, Richard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrot

Re: Best procedure to migrate dedicated VSE volume to VM minidisk

2007-04-24 Thread Tim Joyce
That is what was throwing me last week. But, apparently VM can handle the VSE label at cyl. 0! I made not changes to the data on the pack. It' s like VM is just handling the disk for VSE. Cool stuff! Tim From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECT

Re: TCPNJE

2007-04-24 Thread Alan Altmark
On Tuesday, 04/24/2007 at 09:06 MST, "Schuh, Richard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What is it with Keepalive (TCPIP) vs. KEEPALIV (RSCS), anyway? IIRC, you > and others have said that Keepalive causes packets to be sent while > KEEPALIV does not. In this case the values on the side where the RSCS

Re: Best procedure to migrate dedicated VSE volume to VM minidisk

2007-04-24 Thread Richard Troth
I often put mdisks at cyl zero. VM has no prob with CP, CMS, or MVS labels. Haven't tried a VSE label. -- R; - Original Message - From: Stephen.Gentry Sent: 04/24/2007 11:50 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Best procedure to migrate dedicated VSE volume to VM minidisk Gro

Re: $PAGE$ Question

2007-04-24 Thread PDDitzer
Kris, We'd like a copy of the doc, also. Thanx Paul D. Ditzer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Winchester - TSD DST Systems, Inc. 1-816-737-9403 "Macioce, Larry"

Hackers

2007-04-24 Thread Schuh, Richard
Does anyone know of a documented case of VM being penetrated by hackers? Regards, Richard Schuh

Re: Best procedure to migrate dedicated VSE volume to VM minidisk

2007-04-24 Thread Stephen . Gentry
Group, correct me if I'm wrong but by defining the disk starting at cyl 000 will cause problems for VM and/or VSE. Seems that VSE will put it's vtoc on cyl 000 as well as VM. Or if you place the vse vtoc some place else, cyl 000 still needs to be protected from being formatted and/or written o

Re: TCPNJE

2007-04-24 Thread Schuh, Richard
In this instance, it would have been nice, assuming one wanted a perfect system, if RSCS had received a SHUTDOWN signal and had stopped gracefully. However, the fact that it is normal behavior under the circumstances, as explained by Les, is satisfactory. What is it with Keepalive (TCPIP) vs. KEEP

Re: Best procedure to migrate dedicated VSE volume to VM minidisk

2007-04-24 Thread Tim Joyce
Hey Guys, Thought some would like to know what I did on this issue. 1) I created a USER DIRECT entry called DOSDASD (just used to own minidisks) (our test VSE is called DOS). Then I added a MDISK statement for the volume to be migrated, as such: USER DOSDASD DOSDASD 8M 8M ABCDEFG

Re: Using ALL Module and XEDIT in an EXEC

2007-04-24 Thread Kris Buelens
I'll have a look tomorrow to see what went wrong when packaging this TCVM1 course. 2007/4/24, Macioce, Larry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: I've downloaded both. The PIPEs telecourse comes through fine, execpt the REXX course is having problems. I read the readme.txt and it states to open this course wi

Re: Using ALL Module and XEDIT in an EXEC

2007-04-24 Thread Macioce, Larry
I've downloaded both. The PIPEs telecourse comes through fine, execpt the REXX course is having problems. I read the readme.txt and it states to open this course with either INDEX.HTM or TCVM1.HTM ,and when I do I get 'page cannot be displayed". I'm using explorer 6+ and I don't seem to have a pr

Re: Using ALL Module and XEDIT in an EXEC

2007-04-24 Thread Kris Buelens
ALL is not a MODULE, but an XEDIT macro, it lives on the S-disk as ALL XEDIT. It is compiled, and its source is there too: ALL SXEDIT. Thus, ALL can only be used from inside XEDIT, or from REXX execs that address XEDIT. If you're really using an EXEC, and not an XEDIT macro, you might want to le

Re: Using ALL Module and XEDIT in an EXEC

2007-04-24 Thread Brian Nielsen
In an EXEC you need quotes around ALL /02 or the REXX will interpret the '/' as division. This would cause the ALL command to fail - giving the results you observe. As a general rule, anything that is intended to be a literal should be quoted to avoid undesirable substitutions and mis- inte

Using ALL Module and XEDIT in an EXEC

2007-04-24 Thread Tracy, David
All, In an EXEC using XEDIT is there a way to use the ALL MODULE. The works fine interactively, XEDIT FN FT FM SET ZONE 12 13 ALL /02 DEL * Interactively all records in columns 12 13 with 02 are deleted; in an EXEC all the records in the entire file are DELETED with an error calling

Re: $PAGE$ Question

2007-04-24 Thread Macioce, Larry
Yes, Please send a copy to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thx Mace From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sikich, Frank J. Sent: Monday, April 23, 2007 3:15 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: $PAGE$ Question When you get a ch