Re: VM 4.4 & VSE 2.4....

2007-06-19 Thread Ron Schmiedge
Hi Lee, Sorry, no suggestions. We were older than you, but we jumped VSE first, from VSE/ESA 2.2 to VSE 2.6.2 and then moved from VM/ESA 2.3 to z/VM 4.4. Both old releases ran fine on the 7060 we had to put in first (not enough cycles to take the VSE turbo dispatcher overhead). We may have needed

Re: Installing z/VM 5.3 on Flex-ES box

2007-06-19 Thread O'Brien, Dennis L
Adam, Assuming the process hasn't changed in 5.3, you can do a second-level install from DVD. The process is much simpler than a first-level install. It shouldn't matter at all that you're on a Flex system. The FTP server can be on Windows, Linux, or anything else that can read a DVD drive. In

VM 4.4 & VSE 2.4....

2007-06-19 Thread Lee Stewart
Hi all... This is a real shot in the dark, but in case anyone else has bumped into it We have a VERY back level client (VSE 2.4 under VM 3.1) who is trying to move into the 21st century. Their plan is to update VM to 4.4 (last one that will run on their MP3000), then to upgrade VSE to

Re: OT: Installing z/VM 5.3 on Flex-ES box

2007-06-19 Thread Dave Jones
Hi, Mace. I really don't know what the problem is, as IBM has not been very forthcoming, at least imho, to the PWD membership. There have been no new Flex-ES licenses granted since the end of last year, and sites are already seeing their Flex boxes die as the dongle thingie expires. The onl

Re: Installing z/VM 5.3 on Flex-ES box

2007-06-19 Thread Rich Smrcina
I've been monitoring it and there are more questions and speculation than answers. The best thing to do is to bug PWD about it (which I exactly what I intend to do). Adam Thornton wrote: On Jun 19, 2007, at 1:57 PM, Rich Smrcina wrote: I've heard that there's a lot of discussion about PWD an

Re: OT: Installing z/VM 5.3 on Flex-ES box

2007-06-19 Thread Stephen Frazier
It is so obviously a benefit to both companies. A compromise is easy, neither has to give much. Therefore, it is unlikely to be resolved. But,if Fundamental would buy out IBM. :) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone think that IBM and FLEX will resolve their issues? I know of a company gettin

Re: Installing z/VM 5.3 on Flex-ES box

2007-06-19 Thread Adam Thornton
On Jun 19, 2007, at 1:57 PM, Rich Smrcina wrote: What does subscribing to ibm-main have to do with z/VM updates? Adam Thornton wrote: Yep. But *until* my license runs out, then I would like to keep current with z/VM updates. I am given to understand that I should be reading IBM-MAIN--whic

Re: Installing z/VM 5.3 on Flex-ES box

2007-06-19 Thread David Boyes
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Hmm ... I thought it was/is *impossible* to license z/VM 5.anything on a > > Flex box! Did something change? We were one of the last PWD licenses. It's not yet clear whether IBM will license 5.3 yet for those of us in that boat. Doesn't look good, though. -- db

Re: OT: Installing z/VM 5.3 on Flex-ES box

2007-06-19 Thread Macioce, Larry
Why and what do you (as in the VM community) feel the problem is? Thanks Mace -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Jones Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 3:17 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: OT: Installing z/VM 5.3 on F

Re: OT: Installing z/VM 5.3 on Flex-ES box

2007-06-19 Thread Dave Jones
No, I do not Macioce, Larry wrote: Does anyone think that IBM and FLEX will resolve their issues? I know of a company getting ready to get rid of their 800(going to windoze boxes) and I was going to suggest the FLEX solution but with all the problems I can't do it. Thanks Mace -Origina

OT: Installing z/VM 5.3 on Flex-ES box

2007-06-19 Thread Macioce, Larry
Does anyone think that IBM and FLEX will resolve their issues? I know of a company getting ready to get rid of their 800(going to windoze boxes) and I was going to suggest the FLEX solution but with all the problems I can't do it. Thanks Mace -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operati

Re: Installing z/VM 5.3 on Flex-ES box

2007-06-19 Thread Mike Hammock
FLEX-ES version 7.0.7 does have the support necessary to install directly from a DVD (with no FTP session involvement) on a FLEX-ES system. I have a procedure available which will load the zVM 5 CP Nucleus and ramdisk into memory and initiate the install process. I have used this procedure to i

Re: Installing z/VM 5.3 on Flex-ES box

2007-06-19 Thread Rich Smrcina
What does subscribing to ibm-main have to do with z/VM updates? Adam Thornton wrote: Yep. But *until* my license runs out, then I would like to keep current with z/VM updates. I am given to understand that I should be reading IBM-MAIN--which I've just subscribed to--and that I ought to grit

Re: Installing z/VM 5.3 on Flex-ES box

2007-06-19 Thread Adam Thornton
On Jun 19, 2007, at 1:43 PM, Stephen Frazier wrote: No, z/VM 5 works on Flex-ES. The problem is that if you have a commercial license then IBM will not sell you a license to run it. If you have a developers (PWD) license then Fundamental will not renew your Flex-ES license. So when the all

Re: Installing z/VM 5.3 on Flex-ES box

2007-06-19 Thread Stephen Frazier
No, z/VM 5 works on Flex-ES. The problem is that if you have a commercial license then IBM will not sell you a license to run it. If you have a developers (PWD) license then Fundamental will not renew your Flex-ES license. So when the all the current licenses run out everyone is sed. [EMAIL

Re: Installing z/VM 5.3 on Flex-ES box

2007-06-19 Thread Adam Thornton
On Jun 19, 2007, at 12:31 PM, Imler, Steven J wrote: Hmm ... I thought it was/is *impossible* to license z/VM 5.anything on a Flex box! Did something change? We've got 5.2 on ours, via PWD. The host is not 64-bit. Adam

Re: Installing z/VM 5.3 on Flex-ES box

2007-06-19 Thread Imler, Steven J
Hmm ... I thought it was/is *impossible* to license z/VM 5.anything on a Flex box! Did something change? JR (Steven) Imler CA Senior Software Engineer Tel: +1 703 708 3479 Fax: +1 703 708 3267 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PR

Re: Installing z/VM 5.3 on Flex-ES box

2007-06-19 Thread Dave Jones
Short answer is yes, it should work. Adam Thornton wrote: So, I presume we're going to want z/VM 5.3 on our Flex box when it's available. We *do* have a deskside 3480/3490 drive, so we can use that if we must. But it's slow and kind of cranky. I was wondering whether it ought to be possibl

Installing z/VM 5.3 on Flex-ES box

2007-06-19 Thread Adam Thornton
So, I presume we're going to want z/VM 5.3 on our Flex box when it's available. We *do* have a deskside 3480/3490 drive, so we can use that if we must. But it's slow and kind of cranky. I was wondering whether it ought to be possible, instead, to do a DVD install. As I understand it, on

Re: RSCS on 5.3

2007-06-19 Thread Alan Altmark
On Tuesday, 06/19/2007 at 10:32 AST, "Smith, Ann (ISD, IT)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It's just PROP seems like basic VM capability but the cost of the OTC's > for 5 IFL's probably makes it not an option. > We had been under the impression that TCP/IP features were free. I would suggest discus

Re: RSCS on 5.3

2007-06-19 Thread Smith, Ann (ISD, IT)
Thanks Les. It's just PROP seems like basic VM capability but the cost of the OTC's for 5 IFL's probably makes it not an option. We had been under the impression that TCP/IP features were free. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of L

Re: RSCS on 5.3

2007-06-19 Thread Les Geer (607-429-3580)
>Thanks for the information. >I was hoping TCPNJE would be free. >We now have 2 VM lpars on 2 different processors that support linux >guests. >We wanted to use PROP between the 2 systems. > None of the RSCS NJE features, including TCPNJE, are free. All require a license. In fact, not all TCP/IP

Re: equalcostmultipath question

2007-06-19 Thread Alan Altmark
On Tuesday, 06/19/2007 at 03:00 ZE2, Shimon Lebowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > As I wrote in my previous post, I was just playing around > with a test stack. I also (finally) set up a vswitch as was > suggested for reliability, I couldn't believe how easy it was. > > - defined controllers As

Re: equalcostmultipath question

2007-06-19 Thread Shimon Lebowitz
> Some common reasons for error E00A are described at: > http://www.vm.ibm.com/virtualnetwork/hintarp.html I looked at that web page, got to the same advice David Kreuter gave: > For z/VM 5.1.0 and 5.2.0, use of the SOURCEVIPA statement in the TCP/IP > Configuration file eliminated these harmless

Re: Ordering z/VM 5.3.0 through ShopzSeries?

2007-06-19 Thread Shimon Lebowitz
> > Has anyone else been able to place an order for z/VM 5.3.0 on > ShopzSeries since the first order date; published in the z/VM > Announcement Letter as Friday June 15, 2007? > As I understood the announcement, anyone ordering z/VM (regardless of the release mentioned in the order) will get