Re: Synchronize HMC's TOD clock to MF TOD clock

2007-08-01 Thread McBride, Catherine
Unfortunately, VSE is my biggest issue, and we're pretty confident it cannot do this. Thank you very much for your help. Alan Altmark wrote: You are correct. A guest, however, can synchronize *its* clock with an external source. Linux can do this via NTP. I don't know about VSE. Alan Al

Re: PROFILE EXEC to bring up second level VM

2007-08-01 Thread Rich Smrcina
That worked great! Thanks Michael and Marcy. Michael Coffin wrote: Hi Rich, When you disconnect the z/VM 5.3 OPERATOR you get the z/VM 5.3 HCPBOX, and then you close the TN3270 emulator, right? That is your problem. Don't forget that you are logged on to a virtual machine on the first level C

Re: PROFILE EXEC to bring up second level VM

2007-08-01 Thread Marcy Cortes
I usually just use FORCE DISC from another ID. That way I know I've done what I intended to do :) Marcy Cortes "This message may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy, disclose,

Re: PROFILE EXEC to bring up second level VM

2007-08-01 Thread Michael Coffin
Hi Rich, When you disconnect the z/VM 5.3 OPERATOR you get the z/VM 5.3 HCPBOX, and then you close the TN3270 emulator, right? That is your problem. Don't forget that you are logged on to a virtual machine on the first level CP (z/VM 5.2), and THAT virtual machine is running and OS which happens

Re: Synchronize HMC's TOD clock to MF TOD clock

2007-08-01 Thread Alan Altmark
On Wednesday, 08/01/2007 at 09:43 EDT, "McBride, Catherine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > We understand from your reply that synchronizing our HMC with the atomic clock > (or another server) is one thing, but "pushing" that time into the operating > system(s) does not occur without deactivatio

PROFILE EXEC to bring up second level VM

2007-08-01 Thread Rich Smrcina
OK, I seem to be having a recall problem... Here is the essence of a PROFILE EXEC that I'm using to bring up z/VM 5.3 under z/VM 5.2: 'CP SET RUN ON' 'CP TERMINAL HOLD OFF' IPLCMD='TERM CONMODE 3270'||'15'X||'IPL C20' 'CP 'IPLCMD It all works fine until I DISC the z/VM 5.3 OPERATOR an

Re: Synchronize HMC's TOD clock to MF TOD clock

2007-08-01 Thread McBride, Catherine
Thank you! We understand from your reply that synchronizing our HMC with the atomic clock (or another server) is one thing, but "pushing" that time into the operating system(s) does not occur without deactivation/activation of the LPAR. There is no "real time" (pardon the pun) way to synchronize V

Re: FW: IBM saves $250 million consolidating Linux...

2007-08-01 Thread Imler, Steven J
Well ... Here's another "take" on it! -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2007 08:43 PM Subject: PC World - IBM Data Centers Moving to Mainframes http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,135331/article.html?tk=nl_dnxnws -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating Syst

Re: Synchronize HMC's TOD clock to MF TOD clock

2007-08-01 Thread Alan Altmark
On Wednesday, 08/01/2007 at 03:12 EDT, "McBride, Catherine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Now if we can get Mr. Altmark or Mr. Bitner to confirm (in other words, > "Dudes, please reply to this!") you just solved an incredibly huge problem > for us. > Judson West wrote: > > > It'

Re: XRC use and z/VM

2007-08-01 Thread Alan Altmark
On Tuesday, 07/31/2007 at 09:52 EDT, Marcy Cortes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Interesting. I keep getting mixed messages from IBM. > > It sounds like you are talking about z/OS under z/VM?? I was talking > about z/VM itself in its own LPAR and its Linux guests but z/OS running > the show and j

Re: Synchronize HMC's TOD clock to MF TOD clock

2007-08-01 Thread Judson West
I think the SE is updated from the HMC. FWIW, we keep the timezone on the HMC to 0 and let the OS's make the proper adjustment. It makes the twice yearly time changes a snap. Judson West Systems Programming Team TeradataR, a division of NCR Corporation ___

Re: Synchronize HMC's TOD clock to MF TOD clock

2007-08-01 Thread Davis, Larry
I believe the LPAR get's it's time from the SE, the internal Laptop in your box. You can set the time from the HMC to the SE's if you want, but I believe it is a manual process. Larry Davis From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Beha

Re: FW: IBM saves $250 million consolidating Linux...

2007-08-01 Thread Schuh, Richard
Marcy, I didn't know that you had an MVS background :-) Regards, Richard Schuh -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marcy Cortes Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2007 11:49 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: FW: IBM saves $

Re: Synchronize HMC's TOD clock to MF TOD clock

2007-08-01 Thread Mike Walter
The last I knew, z/VM won't pickup time changes from the HMC except at POR - (Power On Reset), and *maybe?* when Activating the system from the HMC. z/OS picks up time changes from the sysplex timer, and I vaguely recall more recent announcements of external time source capabilities for z/OS, b

Re: Synchronize HMC's TOD clock to MF TOD clock

2007-08-01 Thread McBride, Catherine
Mr. West, THANK YOU! Now if we can get Mr. Altmark or Mr. Bitner to confirm (in other words, "Dudes, please reply to this!") you just solved an incredibly huge problem for us. Judson West wrote: It's my understanding that at LPAR activation, the clock in the LPAR is sync'ed with the H

Re: Synchronize HMC's TOD clock to MF TOD clock

2007-08-01 Thread Judson West
It's my understanding that at LPAR activation, the clock in the LPAR is sync'ed with the HMC. After that, it is on it's own. Judson West Systems Programming Team TeradataR, a division of NCR Corporation _ From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto

Synchronize HMC's TOD clock to MF TOD clock

2007-08-01 Thread McBride, Catherine
Anyone know of a way to synchronize our TOD clock on our Z890 to the clock on the HMC? Sound nuts, I realize, but the HMC's clock can be synchronized to the rest of the server farm and the Z890 could maybe sync from the HMC...?

Re: FW: IBM saves $250 million consolidating Linux...

2007-08-01 Thread Marty Zimelis
Nah! It's Marty's Fifth Rule of Performance: "When in doubt, blame it on network delays." > -Original Message- > From: The IBM z/VM Operating System > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marcy Cortes > Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2007 2:49 PM > To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU > Subject:

Re: FW: IBM saves $250 million consolidating Linux...

2007-08-01 Thread Mike Walter
I wonder what system(s) host the gateway servers? :-) Regardless, it's GREAT news to hear of such strong interest. Now if our (using the royal "our") most senior management can just hear about it, too! If that attempt is made, be sure to use simple words and ideas. ;-) Mike Walter Hewitt A

Re: FW: IBM saves $250 million consolidating Linux...

2007-08-01 Thread Marcy Cortes
Jim wrote: >I suspect people downloading the videos are causing some of this problem. When in doubt, blame the users! :) Marcy Cortes "This message may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to receive this for the addressee, you must no

Re: FW: IBM saves $250 million consolidating Linux...

2007-08-01 Thread Jim Elliott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Well this worked earlier today. Don't know why it's not working > now. http://www-03.ibm.com/press/us/en/pressrelease/21945.wss We are experiencing timeouts on the gateway servers which front-end much of the IBM web sirte. The response to this announcement has been huge and the server includes v

Re: TCPIP under z/VM problem

2007-08-01 Thread David Boyes
Could it be resource starvation? SET SHARE TCPIP REL 5000 and see if that helps. > This is not normal. Pls check the console log of TCPIP or TCPMAINT. > Terminating the connection could be related to a bunch of things, some > debugging is required.

Re: X Window system on VM question.

2007-08-01 Thread David Boyes
> Has anybody used or implemented anything on VM using the X Window system interface? Yes. It works as documented, but it is fairly old (X11R4 vintage), and is really only easily usable from C applications. It also takes some contortions to specify the right X server to connect to, and a few othe

Re: FW: IBM saves $250 million consolidating Linux...

2007-08-01 Thread Feller, Paul
Well this worked earlier today. Don't know why it's not working now. http://www-03.ibm.com/press/us/en/pressrelease/21945.wss Paul Feller AIT Mainframe Technical Support [EMAIL PROTECTED] (319)-355-7824 -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTEC

Re: FW: IBM saves $250 million consolidating Linux...

2007-08-01 Thread Bill Bitner
Not sure what you mean by "official", but it's very likely that you'll see more on this from IBM and through other sources. >Is there any chance IBM could possibly come out with an "official" >announcement or publication indicating their $250M savings by >consolidating to zSeries Linux? That migh

Quebec moves Orcale to z/VM was IBM saves $250 million consolidating Linux servers on to mainframes | NetworkWorld.com Community

2007-08-01 Thread Edward M. Martin
Hello Everyone, It started with an article in DATABASE TRENDS AND APPLICATIONS May 2007 Volume 21 number 5 Looks like Quebec is driving Oracle to Linux on z/VM. http://blog.coleo.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/share_session_9230.pdf It is large but a working document. F

Re: FW: IBM saves $250 million consolidating Linux servers on to mainframes | NetworkWorld.com Community

2007-08-01 Thread Alan Altmark
On Wednesday, 08/01/2007 at 12:35 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Is there any chance IBM could possibly come out with an "official" announcement > or publication indicating their $250M savings by consolidating to zSeries > Linux? That might be a good marketing tool. Sometimes we need to "co

Re: FW: IBM saves $250 million consolidating Linux servers on to mainframes | NetworkWorld.com Community

2007-08-01 Thread pfa
Hi Alan, Is there any chance IBM could possibly come out with an "official" announcement or publication indicating their $250M savings by consolidating to zSeries Linux? That might be a good marketing tool. Sometimes we need to "convince" the uppers that this is a good way to go (I'm still t

Re: First attempt at FCP not going so well...

2007-08-01 Thread Hines, Bernard (MSFC-NNM04AA02C)[IBM BART]
Hey I am going to try and implement FCP channel. Does anybody have a cookbook with step-1, step-2, etc. and things to watch out for? I have/am going through the Red-Books and am trying to make a step by step map on a table top executrices before I hit a real system. -Original Message- F

Re: TCPIP under z/VM problem

2007-08-01 Thread Daniel Allen
Thanks, Dave. Daniel Allen Sr. System Programmer Serena Software, Inc. 13713 Pinto Lane Lodi, CA 95240 800-457-3736 ext. 11241 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Serena Software, Inc. www.serena.com -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Jon

Re: TCPIP under z/VM problem

2007-08-01 Thread Marcy Cortes
Oh, and code autorestart on the device if it is not there already. Marcy Cortes "This message may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy, disclose, or take any action based on this

Re: TCPIP under z/VM problem

2007-08-01 Thread Marcy Cortes
Call your IBM HW support. You may have a flaky card (we had that prob last year with one - same symptom). And then, try to see if you can have more than 1 card on different real switches so you have some redundancy and can stay up :) Marcy Cortes "This message may contain confidential and/or p

Re: TCPIP under z/VM problem

2007-08-01 Thread Dave Jones
DTCOSD309W Received adapter-initiated Stop Lan Explanation: TCP/IP received a response from the device indicating that the device is not ready. This can occur when the device is unplugged, for example, or when a CP UNCOUPLE command is issued to disconnect a virtual network adapter from a VM LA

Re: TCPIP under z/VM problem

2007-08-01 Thread Daniel Allen
Here is the TCPIP reader log: 04:20:01 DTCOSD309W Received adapter-initiated Stop Lan * 08/01/07 * 04:20:01 DTCOSD082E OSD shutting down: 04:20:01 DTCPRI385IDevice [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 04

Re: TCPIP under z/VM problem

2007-08-01 Thread Daniel Allen
I did a Q PRINT and there is a file called TCPIP. I have done a quick review of CMS Primer and CMS User Guide. We do not have a printer. How do I look at the file ? -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Kreuter Sent: Wednesda

Re: TCPIP under z/VM problem

2007-08-01 Thread Dave Jones
It's very simple, Daniel, and you don't need a printer:-) By default the TCPIP service virtual machine spools (routes) it's console to the TCPMAINT user id. To see what's in the TCPIP console, do this: 1) log onto TCPMAINT 2) see what's in it's reader queue: RDRL 3) there should be some l

Re: TCPIP under z/VM problem

2007-08-01 Thread Anne Crabtree
I would think you want to look at the last reader file for TCPMAINT. It might show why TCPIP was lost... sign on as TCPMAINT rl Peek at TCPIP from last time it went down Anne D. Crabtree System Programmer WV Dept of Administration - OT 304-558-1494 Fax 304-558-1441 >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 8/1/2007

Re: TCPIP under z/VM problem

2007-08-01 Thread Alan Altmark
On Wednesday, 08/01/2007 at 11:28 EDT, David Kreuter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This is not normal. Pls check the console log of TCPIP or TCPMAINT. Terminating > the connection could be related to a bunch of things, some debugging is > required. If there are no obvious messages, then I recom

Re: TCPIP under z/VM problem

2007-08-01 Thread David Kreuter
This is not normal. Pls check the console log of TCPIP or TCPMAINT. Terminating the connection could be related to a bunch of things, some debugging is required. David -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System on behalf of Daniel Allen Sent: Wed 8/1/2007 11:06 AM To: IBMVM@

TCPIP under z/VM problem

2007-08-01 Thread Daniel Allen
Recently our z/VM 5.2 system is losing connectivity to TCPIP. I force TCPIP and xautolog TCPIP. Everything is fine again. This has happened twice within two days. The z/OS system running under z/VM was okay. Has anyone seen this behavior ? **

Re: FW: IBM saves $250 million consolidating Linux servers on to mainframes | NetworkWorld.com Community

2007-08-01 Thread August Carideo
thank you Augie Dave Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED] are.com>

Re: FW: IBM saves $250 million consolidating Linux servers on to mainframes | NetworkWorld.com Community

2007-08-01 Thread August Carideo
disregard last question about article I did not see link at bottom sorry Dave Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: FW: IBM saves $250 million consolidating Linux servers on to mainframes | NetworkWorld.com Community

2007-08-01 Thread Dave Jones
August, the actual article can be found here: http://www.networkworld.com/community/node/17998 August Carideo wrote: Virtual machines is MF VM VMware is like lparing on the MF lparing did away for the need for VM at some shops instead of running 3 virt machines under VM , run 3 lpars etc wher

Re: FW: IBM saves $250 million consolidating Linux servers on to mainframes | NetworkWorld.com Community

2007-08-01 Thread August Carideo
Virtual machines is MF VM VMware is like lparing on the MF lparing did away for the need for VM at some shops instead of running 3 virt machines under VM , run 3 lpars etc where was the actual article ? I would like to show it to some management here

Re: X Window system on VM question.

2007-08-01 Thread Richard Troth
I never "implemented" X on CMS, but I have seen it done. We're talking like more than 15 years ago, Steve. At the time, there were less MT options than we have now. Kind of overkill to XAUTOLOG a virtual machine just to run 'xclock'. But lately, we find that some USS programs will run on

Re: FW: IBM saves $250 million consolidating Linux servers on to mainframes | NetworkWorld.com Community

2007-08-01 Thread Alan Altmark
On Wednesday, 08/01/2007 at 09:36 EDT, Ray Mansell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dave Jones wrote: > > And I suspect that these Linux servers will be hosted on z/VM.. > This was just circulated internally, too, and I was extremely annoyed > that z/VM wasn't mentioned (although I note that LPAR

Re: FW: IBM saves $250 million consolidating Linux servers on to mainframes | NetworkWorld.com Community

2007-08-01 Thread Ray Mansell
Macioce, Larry wrote: But isn't lparing a VM technology?? Larry Yes - LPAR and z/VM share a common ancestor, and there's still some of my own code in LPAR from wy back, but these days they are very different beasts. Ray M

Re: FW: IBM saves $250 million consolidating Linux servers on to mainframes | NetworkWorld.com Community

2007-08-01 Thread Stephen Buckles
"LPARING?" LPAR is now a verb (i.e. to LPAR or not to LPAR)? "Macioce, Larry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System 08/01/2007 08:37 AM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System To IBMVM@listserv.uark.edu cc Subject Re: FW: IBM saves $250 million consolidating

Re: FW: IBM saves $250 million consolidating Linux servers on to mainframes | NetworkWorld.com Community

2007-08-01 Thread Dave Jones
I didn't see any mention in the article about LPARs (or z/VM, for that matter) and no comment about "LPARs are IBM's premier virtualization technology". David Kreuter wrote: ... otherwise that would be a lot of LPARs! ... Nice to see IBM farming with its own tools. As I've been saying since 19

Re: FW: IBM saves $250 million consolidating Linux servers on to mainframes | NetworkWorld.com Community

2007-08-01 Thread David Kreuter
... otherwise that would be a lot of LPARs! ... Nice to see IBM farming with its own tools. As I've been saying since 1982: Ain't VM grand? Brings a tear to my eye. Think I'll quit work for the day and contemplate the great void. David -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating Sys

Re: FW: IBM saves $250 million consolidating Linux servers on to mainframes | NetworkWorld.com Community

2007-08-01 Thread Rob van der Heij
On 8/1/07, Ray Mansell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > And I suspect that these Linux servers will be hosted on z/VM.. > This was just circulated internally, too, and I was extremely annoyed > that z/VM wasn't mentioned (although I note that LPAR was touted as > being IBM's "premier virtualisat

Re: FW: IBM saves $250 million consolidating Linux servers on to mainframes | NetworkWorld.com Community

2007-08-01 Thread Macioce, Larry
But isn't lparing a VM technology?? Larry -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ray Mansell Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2007 9:35 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: FW: IBM saves $250 million consolidating Linux servers on to

Re: FW: IBM saves $250 million consolidating Linux servers on to mainframes | NetworkWorld.com Community

2007-08-01 Thread Ray Mansell
Dave Jones wrote: And I suspect that these Linux servers will be hosted on z/VM.. This was just circulated internally, too, and I was extremely annoyed that z/VM wasn't mentioned (although I note that LPAR was touted as being IBM's "premier virtualisation product" - not that I have anything

FW: IBM saves $250 million consolidating Linux servers on to mainframes | NetworkWorld.com Community

2007-08-01 Thread Dave Jones
And I suspect that these Linux servers will be hosted on z/VM.. http://www.networkworld.com/community/node/17998 -- -- DJ V/Soft

X Window system on VM question.

2007-08-01 Thread Stephen . Gentry
Has anybody used or implemented anything on VM using the X Window system interface? I came across it while looking for something else in the TCPIP Prog. Ref. manual. Just curious. Thanks, Steve

Re: ENCDIC->ASCII via FTP via Browser

2007-08-01 Thread Richard Troth
Try appending ";type=a" to the URL. -- R; - Original Message - From: Kris Buelens [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08/01/2007 07:41 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: ENCDIC->ASCII via FTP via Browser My customer has disabled FTP on their workstations. Now I get a question to simplify d

ENCDIC->ASCII via FTP via Browser

2007-08-01 Thread Kris Buelens
My customer has disabled FTP on their workstations. Now I get a question to simplify download of reports to a workstations. Using ftp://user:[EMAIL PROTECTED] is a good start, but all downloads are binary. Is there some trick to trigger a EBCDIC to ASCII translation? -- Kris Buelens, IBM Belg