Re: In search of mainframe engineers

On 2/25/08 19:38 Alan Altmark said: On Monday, 02/25/2008 at 11:03 EST, RPN01 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Sometimes, a good class can help get you started, or can bring it all together and make it gel. The Getting Started with z/VM for Linux book is a good place to start. As to IBM classes,

Re: In search of mainframe engineers

Would it make sense to have some kind of computer (okay, PC) based education - where the student (their company) buy the class, and the student could not only take the class on his own time - but could refer back to it when he/she shoot themselves in the feet?? [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by:

Re: Added central/expanded storage...

At 02:11 PM 2/25/2008, you wrote: >>> On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 1:58 PM, in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Brian France <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Reason is that prior to today's IML, we were utilizing xstor, now we > are not. So, I was looking for confirmation on the commands > themselves - ( THA

Re: In search of mainframe engineers

On Monday, 02/25/2008 at 11:03 EST, RPN01 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This is very true... And also very wrong. Have you looked at the number of > manuals that come in the z/VM set at this point? They now come on a DVD. How > would someone, just starting into z/VM, decide where to start reading?

Re: Forwarding guest console to a syslog server

OK, we have a central console log collector we call VMLOGS. All servers do: CP SPOOL CONSOLE START TO VMLOGS. At 1 minute before Midnight we run a CLOSECON EXEC which closes all the consoles. With the CLOSE the console files are sent to VMLOGS. VMLOGS runs WAKEUP (RDR. We read in the console

Re: Forwarding guest console to a syslog server

Actually, the way we have things set up, all of the linux guests forward their syslogs to two central syslog servers. But, not all the messages displayed on the guest console make it in to the syslog. For one thing, any CP messages are lost, and only appear in the z/VM spooled console. We'd like t

Re: Added central/expanded storage...

>>> On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 1:58 PM, in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Brian France <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Reason is that prior to today's IML, we were utilizing xstor, now we > are not. So, I was looking for confirmation on the commands > themselves - ( THANX!! - I figured that was the cas

Re: Added central/expanded storage...

Reason is that prior to today's IML, we were utilizing xstor, now we are not. So, I was looking for confirmation on the commands themselves - ( THANX!! - I figured that was the case but needed a sanity check ) since this was the first IML of this frame in many months. So now I need to investiga

Re: Added central/expanded storage...

My question was not one of who was using it but rather IF indeed I needed to do an IML to acquire it or not. As I stated earlier, I ass/u/me/d it was indeed there after issuing the two "q" commands and I pursued it no further until this morning when I noticed that this was possibly not the

Re: Added central/expanded storage...

Why do you think that it wasn't added to VM? If q stor and q xstor show it, it is there. I have never known the amount shown by those commands to be wrong. Brian France wrote: Thanx. I'm thinking that z/VM must require that. Our z/OS systems picked up that change without that happening and afte

Re: Forwarding guest console to a syslog server

You have several options. First, Linux syslog: You can set the Linux system's syslog to feed your central syslog server. Most (not all) of what gets thrown on the console will then go there. Second, CMS Pipelines: You can slurp the console traffic via SCIF (aka: SECUSER) into a pipeline running

Re: Forwarding guest console to a syslog server

I do not understand the question. Are you asking for an SVM on a VM system that collects all the consoles for that system? -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Patrick Spinler Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 1:00 PM To: IBMVM@LISTS

Re: Forwarding guest console to a syslog server

Use the secondary console facility of VM to send the messages of any the linux guests you want to a service machine. Run PROP (programmable operator) or any other code you want on the service machine to do whatever you want with the messages. Patrick Spinler wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAG

Re: Added central/expanded storage...

Thanx. I'm thinking that z/VM must require that. Our z/OS systems picked up that change without that happening and after doing it on z/VM and seeing the q stor and q xstor show me the new values, I just ass/u/me/d the storage was added. At 01:09 PM 2/25/2008, Feller, Paul wrote: I always do a

Re: Added central/expanded storage...

I always do a deactivate/activate of an lpar when I make changes on the HMC. I never tried to do just an activate of an lpar. Paul Feller AIT Mainframe Technical Support [EMAIL PROTECTED] (319)-355-7824

Forwarding guest console to a syslog server

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 A question for all you good folks. We'd like to forward our linux guest's console spools to a workgroup wide syslog server. Does anyone know of any code that could send syslog messages from a VM service machine? Thanks, - -- Pat -BEGIN PGP SI

Re: Dasd

Yes. Used sparingly. Most of the large z/Linux DASD is stripped. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mary Anne Matyaz Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 10:56 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Sub

Re: Added central/expanded storage...

Metrics mean different things to different people. The same thing happens in linux, "all storage is consumed", add more, and it's consumed also. You just don't know by what, or if it matters. In both your case and the linux case, you are not looking at useful metrics. (And if it's consumed by

Re: Added central/expanded storage...

Mary Anne, I just issued a shutdown of VM, increased the storage at the HMC, and then activated the lpar. So I actually did NOT do a deactivate at the HMC. Yes we do use v-disks for swap for our linux machines. And that is fine as I'd rather go to exp than dasd. What I am cornfused abou

Re: In search of mainframe engineers

This is very true... And also very wrong. Have you looked at the number of manuals that come in the z/VM set at this point? They now come on a DVD. How would someone, just starting into z/VM, decide where to start reading? Or, better yet, once you read the obvious introductions, where do you go fro

Dasd

Is there anyone running with Mod 54's? We have some dasd coming in that we think we will define as 50% mod-54's, and I'm trying to estimate how much overhead linux will use on those. Right now, we see the following: Mod 3: 2.28G for 76% Mod 9: 6.88G for 76.4% Mod 27: 22.5G for 83.2%... Thoughts? M

Re: Added central/expanded storage...

Brian, when you say 'bounced the VM lpar'...did you deactivate and activate the LPAR? Something we found that for some reason takes a lot of Xstore is VDISKs...do you use them regularly? Mary Anne (PSU '85) On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 10:48 AM, Brian France <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Folks, >

Added central/expanded storage...

Folks, Back in Oct or so we installed new z9's with added storage and IFL's. BUT, since we were under the gun we chose to just get us up as were and add storage and or IFL later. So our VM system had 4g of central and 1.5 of expanded. Well, a couple of months later I went to the HMC and

Re: In search of mainframe engineers

On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 07:12:25 -0600, Bob Molerio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Hi, > >Well I think IBM should share some of the blame as the lack of AFFORDABL E VM >training is mindboggling. > >Why is it that the cheapest z/VM class from IBM is at least a few thousand? It's amazing how much you

Re: In search of mainframe engineers

Fortunately some very good education is available from companies that stepped in when IBM dropped their extensive VM education in the late 90s. The two I am most familiar with are the classes by VM Resources, LTD. and Velocity Software. good luck Bill Munson VM System Programmer Office of I

Re: Article: In Search of Mainframe Engineers

Tom, Come to a meeting of the Metropolitan VM Users Association and you will see some VM newbies and VM returnee's. We are getting new member companies and member companies that left VM and came back. Hallelujah. I too started as a DOS/VS Operator then System Programmer all the way up to VS

cp67 announced 40 yrs ago at spring 68 share in houston

CP67 was announced 40yrs ago at spring 68 share in houston. I was invited to attend. I was undergraduate at univ where the last week of jan68, three people from the science center http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#545tech had come out to install cp67.

Re: DFSMS/RMS question

A 3140 reason code does mean 'device is not available'. Typically though this is not an RMS problem. The quickest way to find out would be query the drive, and if 'FREE', then try attaching the drive outside of RMS to see if that is successful. Generally there is a reason why RMS could not attac

In search of mainframe engineers

Hi, Well I think IBM should share some of the blame as the lack of AFFORDABLE VM training is mindboggling. Why is it that the cheapest z/VM class from IBM is at least a few thousan d? Marist runs their system z program on a mainframe that also runs z/VM. How is it that we don't see any classes

Re: DFSMS/RMS question

Hi JR, Yes, I have tried a native mount with DFSMSRM and got the same problem. It gives me a RC=8(3140) which suggests a drive problem but I also get a message saying NO SCRATCH80 - although, now I think about it, this was in the VMTAPE console. If I do a DRSMSRM Q LIB DEV EE6 (LIBNAM VTSTPFC

Re: DFSMS/RMS question

Colin, What is the RC and REASON returned by RMS when the mount request is issued to the "bad" drive? I assume you've tried the mount outside of VM:Tape using the native DFSMSRM command and that's why you are suspicious of DFSMS in this case? JR (Steven) Imler CA Senior Software Engineer

DFSMS/RMS question

We have been using DFSMS/RMS on VM for a long time. At the weekend we had an issue which, I suspect, has happened before but not been identified. We have 16 drives per VTS shared between 6 VM systems (VMTAPE STAM) handles the sharing of the drives. Yesterday, on only one of these drives, I was