Re: VM SHUTDOWN RE_IPL

2009-11-16 Thread Kris Buelens
Wasn't it that you moved MAINT CF1 and that a SHUTDOWN REIPL used the contents of the old CF1. I tried to APAR it, but got a WAD.. 2009/11/16 Schuh, Richard > It does reread the system config file. Several years ago, we had a problem > of it picking up the old module. The way we got around that

Re: OS/390 2.4 guest under z/VM 5.3

2009-11-16 Thread Alan Altmark
On Monday, 11/16/2009 at 02:53 EST, Rob van der Heij wrote: > You're putting different traces in my mouth. It does not have to be a > bogus PGM New PSW. It can also be something happening in the program > check handler. A popular trick is when the old PSW is massaged in some > way before doing a

Re: Shared DASD across multiple VM lpars

2009-11-16 Thread Patrick Spinler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 This is exactly what CSE is meant for. Yes, we use it. CSE + Dirmaint shared directory + Shared disk == not quite a cluster. (I'm still holding on for cluster level split brain protection, as well as the nifty live migration in the someday SSI) -

IBM Solutions Edition for Enterprise Linux

2009-11-16 Thread Marcy Cortes
Cross posted to linux-390 and ibmvm: I kind of waited to see if anyone from IBM would even mention this here. It came out last week. Prices have come down... a lot... http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/z/solutions/editions/linux.html Those of you thinking of consolidating or even adding more need

Re: VM:Account & MAINT's 123 disk

2009-11-16 Thread Dave Keeton
My mistake - I was linking with the wrong vdev address. VM:Account expected 1A0, not 123. Thanks for the responses. Dave -Original Message- From: Scott Rohling Reply-to: The IBM z/VM Operating System To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: VM:Account & MAINT's 123 disk Date: Mon, 16

Re: VM SHUTDOWN RE_IPL

2009-11-16 Thread Schuh, Richard
It does reread the system config file. Several years ago, we had a problem of it picking up the old module. The way we got around that was to specify the MODULE CPLOAD parameter. If you do that, it will work regardless of whether you have changed the CP. I imagine it probably will work without t

Re: Shared DASD across multiple VM lpars

2009-11-16 Thread Feller, Paul
We do that across several lpars. We run with a shared directory (DIRMAINT). We have put code in place to verify that the Linux guest is not running on another lpar. Paul Feller AIT Mainframe Technical Support -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listse

Re: Shared DASD across multiple VM lpars

2009-11-16 Thread Scott Rohling
You're not really specifying the requirements.. but reading between the lines - you want to be able to bring up the guest on one LPAR or the other.. so you will have to share the full volumes. You don't necessarily need unique minidisks for the 191 or swap, though... What 'is' the requirement?

Re: Shared DASD across multiple VM lpars

2009-11-16 Thread O'Brien, Dennis L
We share DASD between two z/VM LPAR's, and have guests set up so they can log on to either one. We use the Cross-System Link (XLINK) feature of CSE to make sure that they don't try to run on both LPAR's at once. Dennis "Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised for the good o

Re: Shared DASD across multiple VM lpars

2009-11-16 Thread Marcy Cortes
It's the "assuming of course" part that will bite you :) One false move and wham, all is gone. And how to keep the directory in sync is another bit of the fun. The future promises to solve this for us. In the meantime, you can use CSE. Or wait... Marcy "This message may contain confidentia

Re: VM SHUTDOWN RE_IPL

2009-11-16 Thread Wandschneider, Scott
My mistake, I have always been under the impression that SHUTDOWN REIPL did not re-read the SYSTEM CONFIG file. Thanks for clarifying that. Thank you, Scott -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Marcy Cortes Sent: Monday,

Re: Shared DASD across multiple VM lpars

2009-11-16 Thread Marcy Cortes
Not in 6.1, but the future one. Not sure if it has a number or not yet. Many of us will be dancing in the streets when it shows up. Marcy "This message may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to receive this for the addressee, you mu

Re: VM:Account & MAINT's 123 disk

2009-11-16 Thread Hodge, Robert L
Have you applied all the zaps from CA to VMACCT? We experienced a VMACCT PRG001 abend and VMACCT looping problem on z/VM 5.3 and z/VM 5.4. It was fixed by a zap from CA. I don’t know the case/issue number as I was not the one applying the zap. Our VMACCT is link to the MAINT 123. From: The IB

Re: Shared DASD across multiple VM lpars

2009-11-16 Thread O'Brien, Dennis L
Single System Image is not in z/VM 6.1. It's a Statement of Direction, which means IBM intends to put it in a future release, but isn't promising anything. Dennis "Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be bett

Re: VM:Account & MAINT's 123 disk

2009-11-16 Thread O'Brien, Dennis L
No, VM:Account does not need a write link to the object directory. VM:Secure and VM:Director are the only VM:Manager products that need a write link to the object directory. MAINT 123 will show up as OS-formatted when you access it under CMS. That’s normal.

Re: VM SHUTDOWN RE_IPL

2009-11-16 Thread Marcy Cortes
Reloads the nuc AND re-reads the system config. Marcy "This message may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy, disclose, or take any action based on this message or any informat

VM SHUTDOWN RE_IPL

2009-11-16 Thread Wandschneider, Scott
Does a SHUTDOWN REIPL 'reload' the CP Nucleus? I applied a PTF and generated a new nucleus. After renaming the current CPLOAD MODULE to CPOLD MODULE, I copied the one from 493 (K). If I instruct operations to do a SHUTDOWN REIPL, will the new nucleus be loaded? I think it does, but would l

Re: VM:Account & MAINT's 123 disk

2009-11-16 Thread Davis, Larry (National VM/VSE Capability)
Make sure it is a LINK to MAINT’s 123 as 1A0 RR LINK MAINT 123 1A0 RR Verify the name in the VMACCT CONFIG file on VMACCT 191 you should see a statement like this toward the top DIRECT 1A0 540RES If yours does not say 540RES than you need to change it to match the VOLSER of wh

Re: VM:Account & MAINT's 123 disk

2009-11-16 Thread Marcy Cortes
VM:Account is fine with a RR link. But it wants a link to a full pack minidisk where the active object directory is housed. And you must put a statement in it's VMACCT CONFIG with the virtual address and the real label like: DIRECT 1A0 540RES In the dir: LINK MAINT 123 1A0 RR Marcy "Th

Re: Shared DASD across multiple VM lpars

2009-11-16 Thread Davis, Larry (National VM/VSE Capability)
I bet you will be happy when z/VM 6.1 is installed and the Single image facility is ready for production. Larry Davis -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Robert J McCarthy Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 4:08 PM To: IBMVM@

Re: VM:Account & MAINT's 123 disk

2009-11-16 Thread Scott Rohling
Oops -- I saw CA and then just assumed it was the directory management product you were using.. don't do an MW link for VMACCT! Not sure exactly why it wants to read the object directory... but a readonly should suffice. Sorry! Scott On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 2:34 PM, Scott Rohling wrote: >

Re: VM:Account & MAINT's 123 disk

2009-11-16 Thread Kris Buelens
Does your VM:Account software a good level to support the z/VM level? Usualy, DIRMAINT 123 and MAINT 123 point to the same physical disk. The VM Resident is not CMS formatted indeed, it contains other stuff than only CMS files. When the disk is formattted (using ICKDSF CPVOL), ICKDSF will write so

Re: VM:Account & MAINT's 123 disk

2009-11-16 Thread Scott Rohling
I'm quite sure it will want an MW link to MAINT 123 since it will need to update the directory... Scott On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 2:29 PM, Dave Keeton wrote: > I am attempting to install CA:Account and I have been unable to get it to > start properly (it abends) because it isn't reading the obje

VM:Account & MAINT's 123 disk

2009-11-16 Thread Dave Keeton
I am attempting to install CA:Account and I have been unable to get it to start properly (it abends) because it isn't reading the object directory. I have defined a read-only link to MAINT's 123 disk (540RES) where the user directory is located, but it appears as OS formatted and not CMS to the VMA

Shared DASD across multiple VM lpars

2009-11-16 Thread Robert J McCarthy
We have a growing VM/Linux environment with currently about 75 linux gues ts spread across three VM lpars. All DASD is defined as shared. All of the linux guests have been defined as TCPIP Layer 2; so that we can easily mo ve guests between lpars for performance/maintenance reasons. Each guests

Re: Question on MODIFY COMMAND

2009-11-16 Thread Rob van der Heij
On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 8:04 PM, Alan Altmark wrote: > Only a class C user can escalate a user's privilege beyond what is in > their directory entry. > > USER OPERATOR ** ABDEFGS > COMMAND SET PRIVCLASS -S Oooh... I bow deep and admire the cool elegance of this piece of art.

Re: OS/390 2.4 guest under z/VM 5.3

2009-11-16 Thread Rob van der Heij
On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 6:19 PM, Alan Altmark wrote: >> As soon as I reply with >>r 00,sysp=00,clpa<< everything dies with a >> HCPGIR453W CP entered; program interrupt loop message. > > As Rob says, HCP453W indicates that the PROGRAM NEW PSW was corrupted or > otherwise not valid when a Program

Re: Question on MODIFY COMMAND

2009-11-16 Thread Scott Rohling
And then only if the set privclass feature is enabled in SYSTEM CONFIG Scott On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 12:04 PM, Alan Altmark wrote: > On Monday, 11/16/2009 at 01:03 EST, Kris Buelens > wrote: > > No, he won't. But, with CP class A, he can issue SET PRIVCLASS * +S. > > Only a class C user can es

Re: Question on MODIFY COMMAND

2009-11-16 Thread Alan Altmark
On Monday, 11/16/2009 at 01:03 EST, Kris Buelens wrote: > No, he won't. But, with CP class A, he can issue SET PRIVCLASS * +S. Only a class C user can escalate a user's privilege beyond what is in their directory entry. USER OPERATOR ** ABDEFGS COMMAND SET PRIVCLASS -S Then the operator

Re: Question on MODIFY COMMAND

2009-11-16 Thread Wandschneider, Scott
Thank you for verifying my assumption. Thank you, Scott From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Kris Buelens Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 12:02 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Question on MODIFY COMMAND No, he won't. But, wi

Re: Question on MODIFY COMMAND

2009-11-16 Thread Kris Buelens
No, he won't. But, with CP class A, he can issue SET PRIVCLASS * +S. You your change is only safe to avoid accidental FORCEs or SHUTDOWNs 2009/11/16 Wandschneider, Scott > If I change SHUTDOWN and FORCE with the following: > MODIFY COMMAND SHUTDOWN PRIVCLASS S > MODIFY COMMAND FORCEPRIVC

Question on MODIFY COMMAND

2009-11-16 Thread Wandschneider, Scott
If I change SHUTDOWN and FORCE with the following: MODIFY COMMAND SHUTDOWN PRIVCLASS S MODIFY COMMAND FORCEPRIVCLASS S ...and OPER1 does not have class S but does have class A, can OPER1 still successfully issue SHUTDOWN or FORCE? Thank you, Scott R Wandschneider Senior Systems

Re: OS/390 2.4 guest under z/VM 5.3

2009-11-16 Thread Alan Altmark
On Monday, 11/16/2009 at 08:17 EST, "J. Cassidy" wrote: > am trying to run (believe it or not) an OS/390 2.4 guest under z/VM 5.3 > (0703) on a CP (z990). ... > As soon as I reply with >>r 00,sysp=00,clpa<< everything dies with a > HCPGIR453W CP entered; program interrupt loop message. As Rob sa

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2009-11-16 Thread Tom Burgess
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Re: OS/390 2.4 guest under z/VM 5.3

2009-11-16 Thread Rob van der Heij
On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 12:47 PM, J. Cassidy wrote: > As soon as I reply with >>r 00,sysp=00,clpa<< everything dies with a > HCPGIR453W CP entered; program interrupt loop message. That means it gets a program check in the program check handler. You should probably look at the PGMOLD PSW and see

OS/390 2.4 guest under z/VM 5.3

2009-11-16 Thread J. Cassidy
Hello all, am trying to run (believe it or not) an OS/390 2.4 guest under z/VM 5.3 (0703) on a CP (z990). The usual CP Directory statements are in place, memory is 1G. I am getting as far as the first reply request, see below: === IEA371I SYS1.PARMLIB ON DEVICE 0847 SELECTED FOR IPL PARAMETERS