Re: CMS SFS Question

2011-03-01 Thread Rick Troth
Nahh ... even easier ... Pipes. I'm thinking two pipes. One to gather the Q ENROLL output then a second to actually perform the deletes. In between shove that Q ENROLL output into a file, manually edit for confirmation, then feed the selected content into DELETE USER. -- R; Rick Troth Vel

Re: SCSI Devices

2009-05-20 Thread Rick Troth
VM supports SCSI disk now, but not SCSI tape. SCSI is SAN (FCP). The cards are FICON cards with FCP personality. In FCP mode, they act more like OSA cards. You can attach one or more (usually more) FCP subchannels to a guest. Maybe the guest will know what to do with them! But CP can use them

Re: Secure FTP

2009-04-06 Thread Rick Troth
On Sun, 5 Apr 2009, Jack Woehr wrote: > So there is the start of one but a) doesn't write and b) it doesn't groove > with the new Linux kernel model for file systems, did I get you right? yep -- R; <><

Re: FCP devices in user directory

2009-03-03 Thread Rick Troth
I was going to say something along the lines of what Dave did: EDEV makes SAN volumes manageable via the CP Directory. Nothing else does that. But I read your initial question as w/r/t attaching the FCP adapters. For that part, let me recommend using a consistent address. For example, if you us

Re: SHARE in Austin

2009-02-28 Thread Rick Troth
On Thu, 26 Feb 2009, Jim Bohnsack wrote: > There should be a "SHARE Economic Stimulus Plan" for the poor companies > (and universities) who are cutting their budgets. I live just north of > Dallas (Plano) and offered to pay my own transportation, meals, and > Motel 6 charges but the $1800 or so f

Re: z/VM V5R4.0 Information Center - December 2008 edition

2008-12-24 Thread Rick Troth
Looks nice. Thanks for the reference and the heads up. I must confess that I have been holding onto the bookshelf because of the much quicker interaction and navigation of simple HTML. But this appears to be a great improvement over other Info Centers. Eclipse ... isn't that where things get dar

Re: Question about BFS in 5.4

2008-12-06 Thread Rick Troth
On Thu, 4 Dec 2008, Alan Altmark wrote: ... > Did someone mess with the > PROFILE EXEC? ... [shock!] Surely not. Certainly no CUSTOMER would modify PROFILE EXEC. PROFILE EXEC ... on the A disk of all places ... that's nothing that a customer or a USER would ever touch. -- R; <><

Re: Configuartion question

2008-12-05 Thread Rick Troth
Terry -- You've already gotten great advice. I would add that you do NOT need to split your workload between the tiers or zones. It was not completely clear to me, but it sounded like that was one of your expected LPAR splits. You can achieve isolation of the zones without having to run yet mo

Re: I/O Overhead - z/VM versus VMWARE

2008-11-01 Thread Rick Troth
I recommend use of the term "insertion loss" instead of "overhead". The term comes from telecomm. The affect arises from any number of JUSTIFIED additions to a transmission line which naturally introduce attenuation of the signal. Add a noise filter? It will reduce noise (which you want) but it

Re: Value added by z/VM versus VMWARE

2008-11-01 Thread Rick Troth
Alan -- What Rob said. (Which I know that you know, but which bears repeating and deserves to be heard by your architect.) Don't make out like z/VM is a silver bullet, but be clear that z/VM is a powerful weapon in his arsenal. Also: I like to draw illustrations from other platforms. Even the m

Re: TCPIP for z/VM 5.4

2008-10-30 Thread Rick Troth
On Thu, 30 Oct 2008, Marcy Cortes wrote: > Unless you have rigid change control processes and approval that takes > longer than actually doing the change! [cough] I know what you mean. > Argh - if I divided it into CP , CMS, and TCPIP, that's 3x7 systems or > 21 change items to get in and appro

Re: EDEV Strangeness

2008-10-29 Thread Rick Troth
Lee -- What you sent LOOKS like it should work. Eric mentioned that XIV is not supported, so I have to guess that there is something magical with that device causing it to either misbehave or to confuse CP. What you describe is quite like what we do all the time: same FCP (pair in our case), sa

Re: EDEVs and "reserved cyl 0"

2008-10-29 Thread Rick Troth
Lee wrote: > Hi... I'm setting up EDEVs and it's been ages since I did FBA stuff... Ahhh, but you HAVE done it. [voice of Jack Sparrow] >How many blocks are normal to reserve (not give to a user MDISK or to > put in $ALLOC$) for the equivalent of reserving cylinder zero for CP on > an ECKD

Re: z/OpenBSD -- wibni?

2008-10-11 Thread Rick Troth
On Thu, 9 Oct 2008, David Boyes wrote: > ... AIX/370 was a perverse evil mutant thing > from hell that didn't die a second too soon. Modern AIX (ie post-AIX 4) > is actually a pretty nice OS, and a lot different from AIX/370 or AIX/RT > (which spawned it). ... Umm... To

Re: Process or tool to verify linux/oracle environment under vm

2008-10-11 Thread Rick Troth
In English, and grossly oversimplified, what Barton said is that you need a tool that scales. It's too true: the tools designed for distributed systems do not scale in any virtualized environment. (Not just a mainframe issue.) -- R; <><

Re: VM operator console?

2008-10-08 Thread Rick Troth
At my shop, we use OSA-ICC all the time. Works great. There is one feature of OSA-ICC that sucks ... It does not close the telnet session when DISCONN from VM. (or when logging off) This is where 'logoff hold' or 'disc hold' are really handy in a direct (VM TCP/IP) telnet session. How come i

Re: Mainframe education/training

2008-10-07 Thread Rick Troth
> What's the good and bad news about today's mainframe education? The good news is that some (eg: university) students are hearing about mainframes, though not often in their classes. The bad news is that most academic sites continue to run "the cheap stuff". People learn by doing. Even the mos

Re: GONE exec

2008-10-01 Thread Rick Troth
from STARMSG. On Tue, 30 Sep 2008, Jim Bohnsack wrote: > No offense to Rick Troth, but that isn't the real GONE. Wayne Preism of > the IBM WSC wrote GONE in the early 80's and it's different than Rick's. No offense taken, Jim. I think Arty also wrote a GONE with IUCVTRAP.

Re: UFT on z/OS?

2008-09-26 Thread Rick Troth
Mike -- I built the C flavor of UFT on MVS (USS) some time back. Not sure if I still have the product of that build. I'll look. In any case, the C version is intended to work on EBCDIC systems too. The build logic detects the character set so that the "-a" flag will translate (or not) accordingly

Re: Question about FTP to z/VM

2008-09-22 Thread Rick Troth
> On Monday, 09/22/2008 at 02:10 EDT, gah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > In text mode (also called ASCII mode) the form on the TCP > > stream is CRLF terminated. It is the responsibility of > > both client and server to convert from native text form > > to that form. Correct. (Haven't read the RF

Re: DDR'ing 3390 DASD To Remote Location

2008-08-21 Thread Rick Troth
This is huge! Thanks Jiri! If we were all on FBA, then copying disks would be as trivial as copying files because the "disk" would be must a big block-o-bytes. But since z/VM is still saddled with ye olde CKD tricks because of the indirect influence of z/OS, this new ability to *convert* a disk (

editors [was: Re: Linux Commands]

2008-08-15 Thread Rick Troth
Rich Greenberg's comment carries weight; the altnative editors are often not available. But I very much prefer them. As it happens, I have THE in a ready-to-run form for Windows (via CYGWIN) PC Linux mainframe Linux FreeBSD at least, and possibly others. The tarb

Re: Portable z/VM help?

2008-08-15 Thread Rick Troth
Lionel (and Marcy, and all) -- It's a CGI script, written in REXX, that runs on Webshare. It can theoretically be re-fitted to run on any of the other three web servers for VM. (Or you could just snag Webshare from Dave Jone's V/Soft site.) Looks like Kris and others have made some important mod

Re: Safety Reminder: If you are planning disk upgrades, make sure you switch your Linux guests to by-path IDs in /etc/fstab BEFORE you switch

2008-08-12 Thread Rick Troth
I second that! -- R; <><

cylinder fudge factor for FBA (and SAN and EDEV)

2008-08-07 Thread Rick Troth
I notice on the ouptput from 'q dasd details' the "CYL =" value, that it is present even if the disk is FBA (VFB-512 attached to CP running second level, or EDEV attached to second level, or even first level EDEV (on the "SAN connected" system). But fixed block do not have cylinders that can b

Re: CSE and VMSERVx

2008-07-23 Thread Rick Troth
I also find (aside from where Tom's suggestion is needed) that it is helpful for the VMID of the SFS server to match the name of the filepool it serves. -- R; <><

code maint [was: Re: REXX coding question.]

2008-07-11 Thread Rick Troth
I checked with Glenn Vanderburg to be sure I was remembering the following story correctly. This comment by Chip Davis reminded me of it: On Thu, 10 Jul 2008, Chip Davis wrote: ... > there comes a time when one must eschew elegance > (and perhaps some efficiency) on behalf of the poor schmuck > w

Re: Reading/Writing To Remote Network File Shares (Samba?)

2008-05-21 Thread Rick Troth
On Thu, 8 May 2008, Michael Coffin wrote: > Thanks Richard and Mary Ellen, I'll give NFS a look. > Unfortunately, my client considers NFS an "unsafe" technology ... NFS is "unsafe" in a similar sense to how UDP is "unreliable". Context! Be sure they keep the context! NFS was designed from a po

Re: z/VM, NTP, and the z/10.

2008-05-21 Thread Rick Troth
Hi, Mike, ... Two things seem to have gotten run together in my post. I meant to say that running the NTP server on all guests is better in terms of impact to the VM host than running a poorly scheduled MULTIPLICITY of 'ntpdate' jobs nightly. At my shop, we introduced an arbitrary staggering of t

Re: Extension of MAINT 190 (S-DISK)

2008-05-19 Thread Rick Troth
In a previous life, we consistenly modified SYSPROF EXEC to conditionally access 319 and 31A (and 19F). If they were missing: no prob, and no error. But most users got them. We then plunked various third party packages (or stubs) onto these disks. The value of this was that users might trash th

Re: Lasting Globalv

2008-05-18 Thread Rick Troth
Howard ... The PF key settings are usually established in PROFILE EXEC for your regular CMS session and in PROFILE XEDIT for editor work. There is no automatic connection with GLOBALV, but you can issue 'GLOBALV GET' commands to set variables (within each profile since they are usually written in

Re: Setting a reliable MINIMUM connectivity latency?

2008-04-19 Thread Rick Troth
RSYNC is nice because it (normally) only copies what has changed. -- R; <><

Re: Setting a reliable MINIMUM connectivity latency?

2008-04-19 Thread Rick Troth
Mike ... Maybe you need to re-think the problem. What if the interactive part could be handled locally with file synchronization carried out in the background? If you need the remote also for execution, that could be driven over SSH with commands stacked onto the session(s). Something like this:

Re: set share to stop a guest from getting service ?

2008-04-01 Thread Rick Troth
> The goal will be to put the identified guest to 'sleep' until we can > evaluate if it is truly causing issues. ... I think I have followed this whole thread, and I don't seem to recall either of these suggested: cp send cp thebadguest sleep -or- cp send cp thebadguest

Re: Disaster Recovery Scenarios

2008-03-11 Thread Rick Troth
On Tue, 11 Mar 2008, Karl Kingston wrote: > OK we are running zLinux under zVM here. So from what I'm reading, z/vm > -> z/vm -> zlinux is not a very good idea??? I have to back what Adam said from a managerial context. There has been much discussion in recent weeks about virtualization as to ho

Re: Forwarding guest console to a syslog server

2008-02-25 Thread Rick Troth
You have several options. First, Linux syslog: You can set the Linux system's syslog to feed your central syslog server. Most (not all) of what gets thrown on the console will then go there. Second, CMS Pipelines: You can slurp the console traffic via SCIF (aka: SECUSER) into a pipeline running

Re: UNIVAC: mainframe related.

2008-02-24 Thread Rick Troth
Loved it! Thanks! On Fri, 22 Feb 2008, Gentry, Stephen wrote: > Glad you all enjoyed it. The film makes comment about using mercury for > memory. Can anyone explain to me how that worked? In addition to whar Mark Waterbury sent, I recommend this book by Scott McCartney: http://webpac.

Re: FTP - how can I preserve date & time?

2008-02-08 Thread Rick Troth
> Sift/UFT is another node-to-node transfer mechanism > that leaves the object in the target rdr in a NETDATA format > so it can be received with proper recfm/lrecl/datestamp. What Tom said. I don't know the IBM implementation of UFT in VM TCP/IP well, but I believe it does have a client (SENDFILE

Re: FTP - how can I preserve date & time?

2008-02-08 Thread Rick Troth
As mentioned, you could send it wrapped up in VMARC. You could also send it wrapped up in a NETDATA envelop. Considering what SENDFILE/RECEIVE does, which supports preserving time stamps, that is exactly how it works. I only know of one file transport method which explicitly supports carrying the

Re: ssh

2007-12-13 Thread Rick Troth
On Thu, 13 Dec 2007, Alan Altmark wrote: > The ssh and scp client-side commands have generated more interest than an > ssh server. With an ssh client you do all sorts of automated management > things, including allocating storage in the disk controllers! Yes. The client gives a lot of mileage. Al

Re: SAN and Linux on zSeries

2007-12-10 Thread Rick Troth
On Sun, 9 Dec 2007, Alan Altmark wrote: > Why is it important that VM manage the storage? Why can't "give me a disk > xxx GB in size" be sent to the SAN fabric directly instead of to VM? I > mean, you still have to send the "give me a disk" request to the SAN in > order to provision the "primordi

Re: SAN and Linux on zSeries

2007-12-08 Thread Rick Troth
> > Handing each guest its own HBA (host bus adapter, > > the open systems term for and FCP adapter) kind of blows > > one of the reasons to go virtual. > > Eh? 480 servers can use a single FCP adapter (chpid) concurrently. That's > the whole point of N_port ID virtualization: 480 separate fabric

Re: SAN and Linux on zSeries

2007-12-07 Thread Rick Troth
We have migrated a number of guests from ECKD to SAN. The O/S is still on ECKD and will remain there for the foreseeable future. We've been giving each SAN participant its own pair of FCP adapters. (Two, because our SAN guys have architected for dual path access. But I know of one site which uses

Re: Formatter forz/Linux Minidisk from CMS

2007-12-01 Thread Rick Troth
On Fri, 30 Nov 2007, Stracka, James (GTI) wrote: > If you format the first couple of cylinders, it would probably fool the > kernel, but then the disk only APPEARS to be properly formatted to > z/Linux. If the owner of the z/Linux guest does not remember to > reformat it after it is given to the

Re: Formatter for/Linux Minidisk from CMS

2007-12-01 Thread Rick Troth
You might could make the errors go away by just formatting the first cylinder from CMS. -- R; On Fri, 30 Nov 2007, Mike Walter wrote: > Responding to both Marcy and Bob's points, I give a fresh MDISK to the > Linux sysprog who says that he receives errors when running dasdfmt unless > CMS FORMAT

Santa Cinema seeks support

2007-11-13 Thread Rick Troth
Speaking of the Age of VM ... I brought my camcorder to SHARE for the VM birthday and induction of new Knights. But I do not have, and have not been able to arrange, conversion of this to DVD or VCD. I am sure that many VMers would like to have a copy. But I need help. Now ... the one A-to-D c

Re: zVM 5.3 TCPIP memory problem

2007-09-17 Thread Rick Troth
For all the pain of the increase in memory footprint, I have to say that the use of BFS sockets and other C code is a GOOD THING. I don't know how much Endicott is able to leverage from POK and other places, but I am sure it is greater than zero. Using work done by the other platform teams is a

Re: Question about IBM-supplied pipe stages/DVD CKD chunk format

2007-09-05 Thread Rick Troth
> On 8/31/07, Rick Troth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Note that TRACKWRITE is "careful". It won't step on a label > > that it does not expect. If you want to blow away the target disk, > > you'll need to format it outside of TRACKWRITE. I us

Re: Question about IBM-supplied pipe stages/DVD CKD chunk format

2007-08-30 Thread Rick Troth
If you want to restore a 3390 image from "something" and the something has to be portable, use TRACKREAD and TRACKWRITE. PIPEDDR is based on that pair of stages. I've also rolled my own. Take a working disk, slurp the image with TRACKREAD, use 'BLOCK CMS' or some other record-to-stream encodi

Re: Another z/VM OSA question

2007-08-28 Thread Rick Troth
> > z/VM TCP/IP can use any OSA you can find. > > Try it :-)http://www.rvdheij.nl/osacard.jpg Sir Rob ... I AM NEVER gonna let the Cat Herder call me "geek" again!! Eques James ... Look! He's even wearing hiking boots (well, rugged enough shoes, but look at him standing there on a rock). T

Re: what kind of OSs can be installed into Z/VM?

2007-07-29 Thread Rick Troth
z/VM can host the following ... z/OS (nee MVS) Linux VSE TPF CMS of course and z/VM (yes, VM on top of VM, indefinite number of levels) Presumably it can also host UTS. I don't know the status of MUMPS. Contemporary hardware cannot host "370 mode" (

Re: zLinux instance on Mod3 and need to move to a Mod 9

2007-07-24 Thread Rick Troth
On Mon, 23 Jul 2007, Paul Raulerson wrote: > Well, yeah, but that won???t make the DASD bootable. > You need to copy over the boot sector as well, > > dd if=/dev/dasda1 of=/dev/dasdb1 bs=512 count=1 I believe the current DASD driver will get it right: dd if=/dev/dasda of=/dev/dasdb wh

Re: Philosophy on Tool Installations

2007-07-09 Thread Rick Troth
Lots of good responses to your question. VMLINK is so much better than OBTAIN which Dave Boyes mentioned. At most (all?) of the shops where I have worked, there has been at least some use of the minidisk-per-tool model, even a different minidisk for each release of a given tool or package. Record

Re: How to determine if running as a multitasking CMS app

2007-07-09 Thread Rick Troth
On Mon, 9 Jul 2007, Alan Altmark wrote: > I have some assembler code that can run with C or Pascal (called prior to > entering the "real" module). I put in a WXTRN for CEESTART and VSPASCAL > in order to figure out whether it is running in an LE environment or not. > Could you put in a WXTRN for

Re: How to determine if running as a multitasking CMS app

2007-07-09 Thread Rick Troth
I'm not convinced that running the chain is the right solution. Sure, it names the caller(s), but that's hardly a programatic way to determine if you're in an MT environment. -- R; On Tue, 10 Jul 2007, Gillis, Mark wrote: > DMSCALLER returned the name of the calling load module - not VMSTART.

Re: Dumping the contents of a STEM variable

2007-05-11 Thread Rick Troth
> If I want to dump all the values in a multi level stem variable > what would be the best method. > I want to use a pipe but am not sure how to proceed. Use the 'REXXVARS' stage. I built up the following from playing around. Start by just dumping all variables ... 'PIPE REXXVARS' ,

Re: WGET

2007-04-05 Thread Rick Troth
[EMAIL PROTECTED] +1.724.738.2153 > > "Yes, Virginia, there is a Slippery Rock" > > > > On Wed, 4 Apr 2007 20:37:48 -0400 Rick Troth said: > > >I guess it would help to include the URL > > > > > > http://www.casita.net/pub/cmsmake/cmsmake.vmarc > > > > > >Theres a WGET REXX (and WGET EXEC) included in that. > > > > > >-- R; > > >

Re: WGET

2007-04-04 Thread Rick Troth
I guess it would help to include the URL http://www.casita.net/pub/cmsmake/cmsmake.vmarc Theres a WGET REXX (and WGET EXEC) included in that. -- R;

Re: WGET

2007-04-04 Thread Rick Troth
Ian asked: > Anyone aware of a version of WGET (like ftp, but via http) > available for CMS? There's one included with CMS Make. It is designed to be 100% compatible with *some* of the options of the GNU version. The REXX code checks how it was invoked and so can also be named CURL. Seeing some

Re: CKDSVRST program from IBM Downloads

2007-03-13 Thread Rick Troth
On Tue, 13 Mar 2007, Rob van der Heij wrote: > I suppose the PIPEDDR adds some additional checks to protect your own > feet. But the basic stages add no such restrictions. You can certainly > write your data to a tape with CMS Pipelines, and if you look at a few > of your CKDVRST tapes you can prob

Re: DASD cylinders

2007-03-07 Thread Rick Troth
> --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Does Hercules emulate 2311's ?? On Wed, 7 Mar 2007, Dave Wade wrote: > Yes, its fine with smaller DASD. It will also emulate > larger than normal FBA. However there are some issues > with larger devices, when the file used to contain the > image goes over 2GB. N

Re: DASD cylinders

2007-03-07 Thread Rick Troth
> > We've just been honoring the 3390 all these years by trying to do things > > they would have done them. Had FBA been more popular at the time of the > > real 3390's, we might be seeing 3350 mod 81's instead. Maybe that would be 3370 mod 81? Or 9336 model something? On Tue, 6 Mar 2007, David

Re: a C language question....

2007-01-23 Thread Rick Troth
Pointers ... very tough to figger out. From the man page: int getaddrinfo(const char *node, const char *service, const struct addrinfo *hints, struct addrinfo **res); Your first and second args are pointer to char.

Re: a C language question....

2007-01-23 Thread Rick Troth
> Can anyone tell me what I'm doing wrong (besides the obvious fact > that I am reduced to using C as a programming language, which has > to be one of the worst tools ever devised..the use of C has set back > good software development by 20 years, imho.) C is awesome, Dave. C++ would be better ren

Re: IBM ServiceLink greenscreen to be discontinued March 31, 2007

2007-01-03 Thread Rick Troth
What is your problem, Mike? Why do you hang on to these antiquated things? Get over it ... move on. How else can we keep our web presence fresh and new and certain development teams in cash flow? Your expectations of usability and reliability are just WAY TOO HIGH. You need to clean-up your atti

Re: switch user without logoff

2007-01-02 Thread Rick Troth
Not sure what you are after, but maybe #CP DISC HOLD will help? To me, it is a lot like the "switch user" feature of some Unix/Linux X session managers and of Windows (XP) home edition. If you're connected via VTAM, your "session" usually remains. If you're connected via TELNET, your "session" u

Re: COMMAND vs. CMS

2006-12-14 Thread Rick Troth
Do you have a COMMAND REXX in the mix intercepting the built-in? -- R;

status of CMS Make

2006-12-05 Thread Rick Troth
I've been hacking on CMS Make (and losing sleep, but such is the life of an addict!). This is so much fun! Got a long way to go. Again, the reason for doing this is to have a 'make' tool for CMS that works mostly like Unix 'make' even to the point of sharing rules files between CMS and Linux. Th

Re: [Fwd: Decimal Floating Point PoP]

2006-11-29 Thread Rick Troth
> It appears that we can expect decimal floating point capability > in a future zSeries processor.. So ... this is useful ... why? ... because so many scripting lanuages work with decimal? (in the sense that they DO NOT convert to/from binary) I'm not normally the detractor, but it smacks to

Re: IPL Help for old 9672 with VM/ESA 2.4

2006-11-24 Thread Rick Troth
[blush] I knew I was going to do that. Messed up on the MDISK statement syntax. When you're away from your tools ... the mind just fades. [sigh] But y'all get the idea. -- R;

Re: IPL Help for old 9672 with VM/ESA 2.4

2006-11-24 Thread Rick Troth
Oh ... I always forget something ... Some may find it handy to leverage 1st level CMS disks. (You can always change this later and let 2nd level have its own CMS support disks.) For example, MAINT might have MDISK 190 MNT190 0 END RR ALL -or- MDISK 190 DEVNO 190 RR ALL

Re: IPL Help for old 9672 with VM/ESA 2.4

2006-11-24 Thread Rick Troth
Lately, I've been IPLing second level CP from a recomp CMS minidisk. So much easier to set-up. Still needs a CP formatted volume to run, but I find that I can DIRECTXA to that before booting second level. So in this case, the IPL vol (of the 2nd level system) is not CP owned, but yeah, the vol

Re: CMS Make

2006-11-15 Thread Rick Troth
> I would hope you do something generic to deal with CMS update. I have > my own HLASM front-end to build text decks per update and build the > module based on the updates listed in my control file. In the case of update files, the source depends on them. (Most 'make' driven packages do not emplo

Re: CMS make

2006-11-14 Thread Rick Troth
Make could be a common tool for Windoze, Linux, BSD Unix, AT&T Unix, USS, OpenVM, CMS, ... anything but traditional MVS. Even MVS might could use Make, but the datasets and/or members would have to be time-stamped. All the other systems stamp their "files". -- R;

Re: CMS make

2006-11-14 Thread Rick Troth
The Make I'm working on now is a replacement for a MAKE that I created in a previous life. The purpose was/is to support a common sub-set of Make features. There are other tools called "make" for CMS, but what I've seen has no compatibility with Unix Make, otherwise there would be no point in re

CMS Make

2006-11-13 Thread Rick Troth
In a previous life, I used 'make' a lot for building some VM packages. Initially, I used the 'make' command in OpenVM, which is great! (We should all leverage OpenVM.) But driving CMS operations from it was a little messy. That is, when the content of interest was in CMS space and the targets

Re: Command/message transfer over TCPIP (without RSCS)

2006-11-13 Thread Rick Troth
> REXEC has gotten a bad rap. > Mostly because it starts with R , > and everyone know that the R-commands are insecure... Well ... yeah. Point taken. Within a certain context, most of that lot is probably just fine. ... > Do the alternate protocols mentioned (MSP/MSGD, UFT) > provide secure co

Re: Command/message transfer over TCPIP (without RSCS)

2006-11-13 Thread Rick Troth
On Fri, 10 Nov 2006, Fran Hensler wrote: > Rick - > > I still have MSGD VMARC dated 2/07/94 on my VM FTP site: Perfect! That would be the one. I'll snag a copy of that in case I cannot find MSGD VMARC here. -- R;

Re: Command/message transfer over TCPIP (without RSCS)

2006-11-10 Thread Rick Troth
> MSP looks exactly what I am looking for but a search for this and MSGD has > failed to find any currently active link to any code that implements this. I have an old copy. It probably still works. The most intrusive part is the TELL EXEC replacement. A quick Linux sort of the two FILELISTs I ha

Re: Command/message transfer over TCPIP (without RSCS)

2006-11-10 Thread Rick Troth
... > It would be very useful to be able to send commands and/or messages > to/from this machine in similar way to the RSCS functionality. > My thought would be to have a TCPIP based server on each side > talking to each other and providing this functionality. There is (or was) a protocol for se

Re: OS Storage on Program Completion

2006-10-25 Thread Rick Troth
In a previous life, I wrappered CMSSTOR in a pair of C funcs: xxx_malloc() and xxx_free() or some such ... but am going by memory. Whatever C runtime I was using at the time had its own malloc() and free() functions, which were also used, and I did not want to interfere with them. But I could u

Re: OS Storage on Program Completion

2006-10-23 Thread Rick Troth
Gotta be careful about this, Dave. Even when the program "completes" you might not want all storage freed. The full impact of what you are asking is a little beyond me, but CMS is a lot different from z/OS or Unix (any POSIX) in that it still supports that "terminate and stay resident" idea. (A

Re: Saving a backup copy of NSSs with no tape drive

2006-09-11 Thread Rick Troth
On Mon, 11 Sep 2006, Rob van der Heij wrote: > Since CP can already read files from a CMS formatted disk that you > have under CPACCESS, why not change it that CP will simply read the > pages from a file on one of those disks. With a few extra commands to > make CP switch to a new file somewhere in

Re: 2nd fopen returns ENOENT when POSIX(ON)

2006-08-26 Thread Rick Troth
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I resolved my problem by putting // in front of dd: > > in the fopen command. ... Come to think of it, that is consistent with OE filepath syntax. On Fri, 25 Aug 2006, Alan Altmark wrote: ... > I'd suggest opening a PMR. Either the code is wrong > or the docume

Re: SUSE LINUX ifconfig - need permanent command

2006-08-02 Thread Rick Troth
Hans ... There is the LSB (Linux Standard Base). There are a lot of things specified in that. Not sure if 'netconfig' is in that lot of things or not. The major distributions existed before LSB. In absense of a standard, and for lack of such tools from the greater Linux community, the distribut

Re: SUSE LINUX ifconfig - need permanent command

2006-08-02 Thread Rick Troth
On Wed, 2 Aug 2006, Jim Vincent wrote: > Mppmmppthpfpp... ugh! Had to take my foot out of my mouth. Yes, I did > know Yast -can- be done, via a VNC connection right? The usual case I get > involved in is when the nic is DOA and I am doing it all via the 3270 > console. I stand humbly corrected

Re: Performance under z/VM 5.1

2006-07-28 Thread Rick Troth
On Fri, 28 Jul 2006, Dave Jones wrote: > According to IBM, both the z800 and the z900 will tun in basic as well > as LPAR mode. They are the last models of the zSeries to support both, > the z890, z990, and z9 run in LPAR mode only. "basic" ... interesting concept. Sounds like a neat idea. Must

Re: Inconsistent XEDIT Logical Not

2006-07-10 Thread Rick Troth
On Mon, 10 Jul 2006, Phil Smith III wrote: [stuff deleted for brevity] ... > Note the character that went in as the NOT sign. Then issue: > > set input xx 5f > > Where "xx" is the hex value of the character as displayed by HEXTYPE. Precisely. -- R;

Re: Inconsistent XEDIT Logical Not

2006-07-09 Thread Rick Troth
I've been doing an explicit 'SET INPUT B0 5F' in PROFILE EXEC for quite some time for just this reason. Hex B0 is the "caret", which is what gets sent for Shift-6 from some emulators (notably X3270, which I prefer of late). Any codepage which presents "caret" for 5F is just flag wron

Re: ICC problem on z890

2006-06-18 Thread Rick Troth
On Fri, 16 Jun 2006, Alan Altmark wrote: >I don't want to > hear, 10 years from now, how "I tried the ICC 10 years ago and it didn't > work for me - I'll take an old-fashioned 3277 any day!" :-) I do wish that DISCONN without HOLD would do v

Re: Moving directory, warmstart, and checkpoint areas off SYSRES

2006-06-04 Thread Rick Troth
On Fri, 2 Jun 2006, [iso-8859-1] Leland Lucius wrote: > Are there any issues/gotchas/watchouts with placing these areas on a disk > other than the sysres? I always maintain a tiny VM system for quick experimentation, investigation, even forensics. For this, I take inspiration from CMS, and the

Re: z/VM 5.2 and the S disk

2006-06-01 Thread Rick Troth
> Don't push your luck, pal. "can't get myself into too much trouble" HA! > Do you also walk down dark alleys at night with $50 bills hanging out of > your pockets? Do you hold your golf club up in the air during a lighting > storm? Do you J-walk? Do you put your own stuff on TCPIP 191? I sus

Re: Emulated tape/ECKD disk

2006-05-30 Thread Rick Troth
Tom ... VM does allow native use of SCSI. > I was under the impression that z/VM 5.2 now allowed native use of SCSI > DASD, which I assummed also ment SCSI TAPE. I would think that > eventually it will come. Long after you went to a different solution. What it does is present SCSI disk as FBA

Re: This may interest some.

2006-05-25 Thread Rick Troth
Need to deliver such patches in a format that can be fed to 'patch'. IBM's patches against the kernel source work really well. Try that. -- R;

Re: Emulated tape/ECKD disk

2006-05-18 Thread Rick Troth
Dave ... Is this a product SNA or some would deliver? Or are you proposing that IBM step up to it? -- R; On Tue, 16 May 2006, David Boyes wrote: > Several people asked off-list just what I had in mind wrt to emulated > tape and disk over SCSI/FCP. Attached below is a draft of what I've got > so

Re: GCCCMS for zVM

2006-04-22 Thread Rick Troth
I wonder: could you get it to call LE libraries instead of OS libs? -- R;