Re: Is there a JAVA implementation for CMS?

2010-09-29 Thread Alan Altmark
On Wednesday, 09/29/2010 at 10:39 EDT, "McKown, John" wrote: > Would this be "true JAVA"? I.e. from licensed source? Or a port of OpenJDK? > Which I take it is somewhat different. Or am I, once again, out of my mind > (please leave a voice message at the tone)? The CMS version was a port of

Re: Is there a JAVA implementation for CMS?

2010-09-29 Thread David Boyes
> Would this be "true JAVA"? I.e. from licensed source? Or a port of > OpenJDK? Which I take it is somewhat different. Or am I, once again, > out of my mind (please leave a voice message at the tone)? If you want the licensed source, then the price obviously goes up. The technical problem is pret

Re: Is there a JAVA implementation for CMS?

2010-09-29 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message- > From: The IBM z/VM Operating System > [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of David Boyes > Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 9:30 AM > To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU > Subject: Re: Is there a JAVA implementation for CMS? > > >

Re: Is there a JAVA implementation for CMS?

2010-09-29 Thread David Boyes
> But > who > is going to write it? It's > not going to come from Sun/Oracle. Sun doesn't even provide one for the > M > acintosh -- Apple > does. There are a heck of a lot more Macs than copies of CMS. If you want it enough to contribute to the development, let's talk offlist. We've done Java po

Re: Is there a JAVA implementation for CMS?

2010-09-29 Thread Kris Buelens
In the Redbook I mentioned, I wrote a chapter to compare NetRexx with Rexx. And, as opposed to OO-Rexx, NetRexx is not upward compatible with REXX. I didn't visit NetRexx recently, but as NetRexx is in Java, NetRexx runs on all Java platforms (this too should appear in this redbook) 2010/9/29 Ala

Re: Is there a JAVA implementation for CMS?

2010-09-28 Thread Alan Ackerman
Unfortunately, if you find the old CMS JAVA, I'm sure it will NOT use IEE E floating point. A decent CMS Java Virtual Machine with a JIT would perhaps run very well. But who is going to write it? It's not going to come from Sun/Oracle. Sun doesn't even provide one for the M acintosh -- Apple do

Re: Is there a JAVA implementation for CMS?

2010-09-28 Thread Barton Robinson
Right, so even better chance that java on cms would be more than acceptable. Too bad there's no business case. John P. Hartmann wrote: Barton, you overlook the lack of IEEE floating point in the hardware in those days. On 28 September 2010 04:08, Barton Robinson wrote:

Re: Is there a JAVA implementation for CMS?

2010-09-28 Thread John P. Hartmann
Barton, you overlook the lack of IEEE floating point in the hardware in those days. On 28 September 2010 04:08, Barton Robinson wrote:

Re: Is there a JAVA implementation for CMS?

2010-09-27 Thread Kris Buelens
I was part of a Redbook team about Java on CMS: SG24-5148, VM/ESA *Network Computing with Java and NetRexx* - April 1998 (I still have a LIST3820 of it and the tools we wrote for it, BFSLIST for example). As I thought that most of the public for this redbook would be VMers, the book became more of

Re: Is there a JAVA implementation for CMS?

2010-09-27 Thread Les Koehler
I seem to recall that NetRexx would run on CMS, back before I retired. That would require a compiler and JVM, yes? Les Alan Ackerman wrote: Maybe. There was discussion at the time that CMS Java needed a JIT (Just In Time) compiler and did not have one. Even with much faster mainframes, I thin

Re: Is there a JAVA implementation for CMS?

2010-09-27 Thread Alan Ackerman
Maybe. There was discussion at the time that CMS Java needed a JIT (Just In Time) compiler and did not have one. Even with much faster mainframes, I think this would be a problem. If anyone has time and resources to test this, I'd love to hear how it works out. I 'm not doing CMS performance a

Re: Is there a JAVA implementation for CMS?

2010-09-27 Thread Barton Robinson
ate: 09/27/2010 10:56 AM Subject:Re: Is there

Re: Is there a JAVA implementation for CMS?

2010-09-27 Thread Alan Ackerman
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Re: Is there a JAVA implementation for CMS?

2010-09-27 Thread David Boyes
Is there a JAVA implementation for CMS? Nope. There used to be one, but it was sent to the guillotine about Java 1.2 or so. If you want to do Java on VM, you have to do it in a Linux, VSE or z/OS guest.

Re: Is there a JAVA implementation for CMS?

2010-09-27 Thread Michael Donovan
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Re: Is there a JAVA implementation for CMS?

2010-09-27 Thread Dave Jones
I want to share JAVA code between platforms. > > > > Is there a JAVA implementation for CMS? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Michel Beaulieu > > Montreal, Canada > > |*| > -- Dave Jones V/Soft Software www.vsoft-software.com Houston, TX 281.578.7544

Is there a JAVA implementation for CMS?

2010-09-27 Thread Michel Beaulieu
Hello, I want to share JAVA code between platforms. Is there a JAVA implementation for CMS? Thanks, Michel Beaulieu Montreal, Canada |*|